Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[pawsandclaws1]

kills me to say this i thought we looked better when Mbye went to dummy half, i thought his passing was crisper then Liddle, i am unfortunately seeing nothing in Liddle. His passing was aweful today, he is going backwards

Quite a lot of our players have regressed in their standard of play. How long can WTs afford to stick with Maguire?

Depends on how you look at it Utoikamanu, Laurie, Blore, Maumalo, Luciano, Douihei, Twal, Mikalele, Ofehengaue are players who play for Madge.

The group that doesn’t Mbye, Brooks, BJ, Liddle, Nofa.

Which group is the club trying to move on? That will tell you what will happen with Madge.
The players regressing under madge are the players that have to be moved on not the coach.

The narrative is wrong it’s being pushed by media and people are jumping on it without realising the issue it’s our senior players.

Our playing group is better than what our performances and place on the ladder suggest.

The issue is with Maguire and he should be sacked asap.

I disagree with pretty much everything you said.

This is the same playing group that Maguire has to a large extent signed or re-signed. You involve yourself in a blame shifting exercise. Put Maguire on the market and no club would want him. Put Brooks and Liddle on the market and plenty of clubs would be interested.

I wonder how many supporting Maguire actually have a vested interest in doing so - you know snouts - trough?

kills me to say this i thought we looked better when Mbye went to dummy half, i thought his passing was crisper then Liddle, i am unfortunately seeing nothing in Liddle. His passing was aweful today, he is going backwards

Quite a lot of our players have regressed in their standard of play. How long can WTs afford to stick with Maguire?

Depends on how you look at it Utoikamanu, Laurie, Blore, Maumalo, Luciano, Douihei, Twal, Mikalele, Ofehengaue are players who play for Madge.

The group that doesn’t Mbye, Brooks, BJ, Liddle, Nofa.

Which group is the club trying to move on? That will tell you what will happen with Madge.
The players regressing under madge are the players that have to be moved on not the coach.

The narrative is wrong it’s being pushed by media and people are jumping on it without realising the issue it’s our senior players.

Our playing group is better than what our performances and place on the ladder suggest.

The issue is with Maguire and he should be sacked asap.

I disagree with pretty much everything you said.

This is the same playing group that Maguire has to a large extent signed or re-signed. You involve yourself in a blame shifting exercise. Put Maguire on the market and no club would want him. Put Brooks and Liddle on the market and plenty of clubs would be interested.

I wonder how many supporting Maguire actually have a vested interest in doing so - you know snouts - trough?

Canberra might be the only team who would consider Brooks - and we would need to pay a big chunk of his salary

Most teams have a set halfback or a young guy with potential coming through. Liddle might attract some attention as there's a lack of dummy halves around but probably only as a bench role.

Canberra, Sharks, Bulldogs, Souths?

 

[TYGA]

kills me to say this i thought we looked better when Mbye went to dummy half, i thought his passing was crisper then Liddle, i am unfortunately seeing nothing in Liddle. His passing was aweful today, he is going backwards

Quite a lot of our players have regressed in their standard of play. How long can WTs afford to stick with Maguire?

Depends on how you look at it Utoikamanu, Laurie, Blore, Maumalo, Luciano, Douihei, Twal, Mikalele, Ofehengaue are players who play for Madge.

The group that doesn’t Mbye, Brooks, BJ, Liddle, Nofa.

Which group is the club trying to move on? That will tell you what will happen with Madge.
The players regressing under madge are the players that have to be moved on not the coach.

The narrative is wrong it’s being pushed by media and people are jumping on it without realising the issue it’s our senior players.

Our playing group is better than what our performances and place on the ladder suggest.

The issue is with Maguire and he should be sacked asap.

I disagree with pretty much everything you said.

This is the same playing group that Maguire has to a large extent signed or re-signed. You involve yourself in a blame shifting exercise. Put Maguire on the market and no club would want him. Put Brooks and Liddle on the market and plenty of clubs would be interested.

I wonder how many supporting Maguire actually have a vested interest in doing so - you know snouts - trough?

We are a bottom 2 roster as was called by a majority of experts at the start of the year. It’s a rebuild. Our level of mediocrity predates Maguire as no one has had the balls to take a long term approach. It’s about living in reality and not some fantasy land where we have a good team and the coach can’t coach.

I’ve heard this from many wishful thinkers.
The roster is average and will only be rebuilt slowly through youth.

If there’s an upgrade I’m all for changing the coach. There won’t be one, no good young coach is coming here. Flanagan is the only realistic option. I’d prefer they stick with Madge.

At the end of the day whatever decision the management with Sheens on board makes will be the right one but using arguments like Madge’s roster etc is a joke. He can only sign who wants to come here and the mess was not created by him.

 

[JC99]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

Lol ? or get rid of the guy who can't play 80 minutes and misses 6 tackles and throws passes around ankles. At least Simpkin is still developing. Simpkin will be an 80 min hooker

At this stage Simpkin is below average - will he ever get above the mediocrity line....who knows. Anyone can play 80 mins Mate. It is how you play the eighty minutes. The games I saw Simpkin play in the NRL, he was not an 80 minute player either.

I think I would get rid of the guy who also can't play 80 minutes, stands with his hands on his hips after he passes the ball, hogs the ball in try scoring situations, slow as a wet week, no experience and couldn't tackle a decent size sandwich.

This is possibly the worst take on any up and coming player I have ever read.

Russell loves Liddle so much he literally said he'd have him over Harry Grant

I’d keep the 2 hookers we have atm, as well. They do the job and wouldn’t cost the earth to keep, unlike Harry probably will?

I think we have more pressing positions to cover before we worry about the 9.

I think 9 is a big issue. We need players in other positions more but your hooker touches the ball more than anyone and currently we don't have a decent one.

I think Jake Simpkin will come good but he's still so young and Liddle is struggling big time. Our service and direction from hooker is lacking and that's one of the reasons our attack is so slow.

 

[JC99]

kills me to say this i thought we looked better when Mbye went to dummy half, i thought his passing was crisper then Liddle, i am unfortunately seeing nothing in Liddle. His passing was aweful today, he is going backwards

Quite a lot of our players have regressed in their standard of play. How long can WTs afford to stick with Maguire?

Depends on how you look at it Utoikamanu, Laurie, Blore, Maumalo, Luciano, Douihei, Twal, Mikalele, Ofehengaue are players who play for Madge.

The group that doesn’t Mbye, Brooks, BJ, Liddle, Nofa.

Which group is the club trying to move on? That will tell you what will happen with Madge.
The players regressing under madge are the players that have to be moved on not the coach.

The narrative is wrong it’s being pushed by media and people are jumping on it without realising the issue it’s our senior players.

Our playing group is better than what our performances and place on the ladder suggest.

The issue is with Maguire and he should be sacked asap.

I disagree with pretty much everything you said.

This is the same playing group that Maguire has to a large extent signed or re-signed. You involve yourself in a blame shifting exercise. Put Maguire on the market and no club would want him. Put Brooks and Liddle on the market and plenty of clubs would be interested.

I wonder how many supporting Maguire actually have a vested interest in doing so - you know snouts - trough?

kills me to say this i thought we looked better when Mbye went to dummy half, i thought his passing was crisper then Liddle, i am unfortunately seeing nothing in Liddle. His passing was aweful today, he is going backwards

Quite a lot of our players have regressed in their standard of play. How long can WTs afford to stick with Maguire?

Depends on how you look at it Utoikamanu, Laurie, Blore, Maumalo, Luciano, Douihei, Twal, Mikalele, Ofehengaue are players who play for Madge.

The group that doesn’t Mbye, Brooks, BJ, Liddle, Nofa.

Which group is the club trying to move on? That will tell you what will happen with Madge.
The players regressing under madge are the players that have to be moved on not the coach.

The narrative is wrong it’s being pushed by media and people are jumping on it without realising the issue it’s our senior players.

Our playing group is better than what our performances and place on the ladder suggest.

The issue is with Maguire and he should be sacked asap.

I disagree with pretty much everything you said.

This is the same playing group that Maguire has to a large extent signed or re-signed. You involve yourself in a blame shifting exercise. Put Maguire on the market and no club would want him. Put Brooks and Liddle on the market and plenty of clubs would be interested.

I wonder how many supporting Maguire actually have a vested interest in doing so - you know snouts - trough?

Canberra might be the only team who would consider Brooks - and we would need to pay a big chunk of his salary

Most teams have a set halfback or a young guy with potential coming through. Liddle might attract some attention as there's a lack of dummy halves around but probably only as a bench role.

Canberra, Sharks, Bulldogs, Souths?

Sharks have a lot of halves - Hynes coming over next year, they've got Trindall, Moylan and Tracey who can all play there. Dogs have Burton and Averillo, Souths clearly putting faith in their young talent by offering Reynolds 1 year and signing Milford for only one year. Unless they could sign Brooks for one season they wouldn't do it.

 

[TYGA]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

Lol ? or get rid of the guy who can't play 80 minutes and misses 6 tackles and throws passes around ankles. At least Simpkin is still developing. Simpkin will be an 80 min hooker

At this stage Simpkin is below average - will he ever get above the mediocrity line....who knows. Anyone can play 80 mins Mate. It is how you play the eighty minutes. The games I saw Simpkin play in the NRL, he was not an 80 minute player either.

I think I would get rid of the guy who also can't play 80 minutes, stands with his hands on his hips after he passes the ball, hogs the ball in try scoring situations, slow as a wet week, no experience and couldn't tackle a decent size sandwich.

This is possibly the worst take on any up and coming player I have ever read.

Russell loves Liddle so much he literally said he'd have him over Harry Grant

I’d keep the 2 hookers we have atm, as well. They do the job and wouldn’t cost the earth to keep, unlike Harry probably will?

I think we have more pressing positions to cover before we worry about the 9.

I think 9 is a big issue. We need players in other positions more but your hooker touches the ball more than anyone and currently we don't have a decent one.

I think Jake Simpkin will come good but he's still so young and Liddle is struggling big time. Our service and direction from hooker is lacking and that's one of the reasons our attack is so slow.

We have to trust in our development system. Simpkin was a dominant hooker in the QLD system. He will come good in my view will be the starting 9 next season. Lack of reserve grade is really hurting teams like us looking to build through youth.

 

[Camel2281]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

The bloke with terrible service that can’t keep up during games? No thanks. Liddle had his chance this year. Time for Simpkin to step in.


Liddle has had more than enough chances this year, I would bring Simpkin back next week

I totally disagree. Jacob Liddle has been one of the better performers week-in and week-out for the Tigers this year. You are seeing things in Simpkin that I sure as hell haven't seen in the opportiunities he's had in the top grade or his game in the NSW Cup.

Liddle was horrendous. What are you watching. The bloke can't pass. Which is basically the number 1 requirement for a hooker. Not to mention his defence is weak

 

[JC99]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

Lol ? or get rid of the guy who can't play 80 minutes and misses 6 tackles and throws passes around ankles. At least Simpkin is still developing. Simpkin will be an 80 min hooker

At this stage Simpkin is below average - will he ever get above the mediocrity line....who knows. Anyone can play 80 mins Mate. It is how you play the eighty minutes. The games I saw Simpkin play in the NRL, he was not an 80 minute player either.

I think I would get rid of the guy who also can't play 80 minutes, stands with his hands on his hips after he passes the ball, hogs the ball in try scoring situations, slow as a wet week, no experience and couldn't tackle a decent size sandwich.

This is possibly the worst take on any up and coming player I have ever read.

Russell loves Liddle so much he literally said he'd have him over Harry Grant

I’d keep the 2 hookers we have atm, as well. They do the job and wouldn’t cost the earth to keep, unlike Harry probably will?

I think we have more pressing positions to cover before we worry about the 9.

I think 9 is a big issue. We need players in other positions more but your hooker touches the ball more than anyone and currently we don't have a decent one.

I think Jake Simpkin will come good but he's still so young and Liddle is struggling big time. Our service and direction from hooker is lacking and that's one of the reasons our attack is so slow.

We have to trust in our development system. Simpkin was a dominant hooker in the QLD system. He will come good in my view will be the starting 9 next season. Lack of reserve grade is really hurting teams like us looking to build through youth.

Wish he would be getting some more game time this year, even if it's 25 minutes a game.

 

[rex2ce]

kills me to say this i thought we looked better when Mbye went to dummy half, i thought his passing was crisper then Liddle, i am unfortunately seeing nothing in Liddle. His passing was aweful today, he is going backwards

Quite a lot of our players have regressed in their standard of play. How long can WTs afford to stick with Maguire?

Depends on how you look at it Utoikamanu, Laurie, Blore, Maumalo, Luciano, Douihei, Twal, Mikalele, Ofehengaue are players who play for Madge.

The group that doesn’t Mbye, Brooks, BJ, Liddle, Nofa.

Which group is the club trying to move on? That will tell you what will happen with Madge.
The players regressing under madge are the players that have to be moved on not the coach.

The narrative is wrong it’s being pushed by media and people are jumping on it without realising the issue it’s our senior players.

Our playing group is better than what our performances and place on the ladder suggest.

The issue is with Maguire and he should be sacked asap.

I disagree with pretty much everything you said.

This is the same playing group that Maguire has to a large extent signed or re-signed. You involve yourself in a blame shifting exercise. Put Maguire on the market and no club would want him. Put Brooks and Liddle on the market and plenty of clubs would be interested.

I wonder how many supporting Maguire actually have a vested interest in doing so - you know snouts - trough?

I disagree, I reckon if we kick Maguire to the curb he will be the next coach for the Storm.

In 5 years time maybe, Bellyache has re signed

 

[hsvjones]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

The bloke with terrible service that can’t keep up during games? No thanks. Liddle had his chance this year. Time for Simpkin to step in.


Liddle has had more than enough chances this year, I would bring Simpkin back next week

I totally disagree. Jacob Liddle has been one of the better performers week-in and week-out for the Tigers this year. You are seeing things in Simpkin that I sure as hell haven't seen in the opportiunities he's had in the top grade or his game in the NSW Cup.

Liddle was horrendous. What are you watching. The bloke can't pass. Which is basically the number 1 requirement for a hooker. Not to mention his defence is weak

I have to agree with you... He starts ok but once he is gets tried his passing is just terrible. Today he passed one behind the players to no one and we lost like 15 metres and that's happened a few times recently. I would like to give Simpkin a go and even have Liddle on the bench as they could work together if needed on the field.
Pointless having Simpkin there and just training and no game time as that just slows down his development.

 

[tony soprano]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

The bloke with terrible service that can’t keep up during games? No thanks. Liddle had his chance this year. Time for Simpkin to step in.


Liddle has had more than enough chances this year, I would bring Simpkin back next week

I totally disagree. Jacob Liddle has been one of the better performers week-in and week-out for the Tigers this year. You are seeing things in Simpkin that I sure as hell haven't seen in the opportiunities he's had in the top grade or his game in the NSW Cup.

Liddle was horrendous. What are you watching. The bloke can't pass. Which is basically the number 1 requirement for a hooker. Not to mention his defence is weak

I have to agree with you... He starts ok but once he is gets tried his passing is just terrible. Today he passed one behind the players to no one and we lost like 15 metres and that's happened a few times recently. I would like to give Simpkin a go and even have Liddle on the bench as they could work together if needed on the field.
Pointless having Simpkin there and just training and no game time as that just slows down his development.

We so poor close to the line not sure if liddle or Brooks fault,

Blore still seems a bit lost with line running, they seem to be too on top of each other. Not sure what the issue is,

 

[hsvjones]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

The bloke with terrible service that can’t keep up during games? No thanks. Liddle had his chance this year. Time for Simpkin to step in.


Liddle has had more than enough chances this year, I would bring Simpkin back next week

I totally disagree. Jacob Liddle has been one of the better performers week-in and week-out for the Tigers this year. You are seeing things in Simpkin that I sure as hell haven't seen in the opportiunities he's had in the top grade or his game in the NSW Cup.

Liddle was horrendous. What are you watching. The bloke can't pass. Which is basically the number 1 requirement for a hooker. Not to mention his defence is weak

I have to agree with you... He starts ok but once he is gets tried his passing is just terrible. Today he passed one behind the players to no one and we lost like 15 metres and that's happened a few times recently. I would like to give Simpkin a go and even have Liddle on the bench as they could work together if needed on the field.
Pointless having Simpkin there and just training and no game time as that just slows down his development.

We so poor close to the line not sure if liddle or Brooks fault,

Blore still seems a bit lost with line running, they seem to be too on top of each other. Not sure what the issue is,

For me you just don't see Liddle organising the team. I know its a pipe dream but last year we had Grant and he just ran the show. Even watching the Storm he knows when to pass or run and his passes are crisp.. Agree we just look lost in attack on there line and really miss Laurie today

 

[TYGA]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

The bloke with terrible service that can’t keep up during games? No thanks. Liddle had his chance this year. Time for Simpkin to step in.


Liddle has had more than enough chances this year, I would bring Simpkin back next week

I totally disagree. Jacob Liddle has been one of the better performers week-in and week-out for the Tigers this year. You are seeing things in Simpkin that I sure as hell haven't seen in the opportiunities he's had in the top grade or his game in the NSW Cup.

Liddle was horrendous. What are you watching. The bloke can't pass. Which is basically the number 1 requirement for a hooker. Not to mention his defence is weak

I have to agree with you... He starts ok but once he is gets tried his passing is just terrible. Today he passed one behind the players to no one and we lost like 15 metres and that's happened a few times recently. I would like to give Simpkin a go and even have Liddle on the bench as they could work together if needed on the field.
Pointless having Simpkin there and just training and no game time as that just slows down his development.

We so poor close to the line not sure if liddle or Brooks fault,

Blore still seems a bit lost with line running, they seem to be too on top of each other. Not sure what the issue is,

It’s the hooker. The halves are catching the ball all over the place sometimes moving to catch the ball and edge forwards are running hard lines and get in the way. I was yelling at the TV it was so basic it seemed like a dummy spit from Liddle.

Somethings not right after hooker from a team perspective. They are not on the same page for some reason.

 

[tony soprano]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

The bloke with terrible service that can’t keep up during games? No thanks. Liddle had his chance this year. Time for Simpkin to step in.


Liddle has had more than enough chances this year, I would bring Simpkin back next week

I totally disagree. Jacob Liddle has been one of the better performers week-in and week-out for the Tigers this year. You are seeing things in Simpkin that I sure as hell haven't seen in the opportiunities he's had in the top grade or his game in the NSW Cup.

Liddle was horrendous. What are you watching. The bloke can't pass. Which is basically the number 1 requirement for a hooker. Not to mention his defence is weak

I have to agree with you... He starts ok but once he is gets tried his passing is just terrible. Today he passed one behind the players to no one and we lost like 15 metres and that's happened a few times recently. I would like to give Simpkin a go and even have Liddle on the bench as they could work together if needed on the field.
Pointless having Simpkin there and just training and no game time as that just slows down his development.

We so poor close to the line not sure if liddle or Brooks fault,

Blore still seems a bit lost with line running, they seem to be too on top of each other. Not sure what the issue is,

For me you just don't see Liddle organising the team. I know its a pipe dream but last year we had Grant and he just ran the show. Even watching the Storm he knows when to pass or run and his passes are crisp.. Agree we just look lost in attack on there line and really miss Laurie today

100 percent he is pretty poor, wonder why simpkin not getting another go, would like to know madge reasoning

 

[hsvjones]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

The bloke with terrible service that can’t keep up during games? No thanks. Liddle had his chance this year. Time for Simpkin to step in.


Liddle has had more than enough chances this year, I would bring Simpkin back next week

I totally disagree. Jacob Liddle has been one of the better performers week-in and week-out for the Tigers this year. You are seeing things in Simpkin that I sure as hell haven't seen in the opportiunities he's had in the top grade or his game in the NSW Cup.

Liddle was horrendous. What are you watching. The bloke can't pass. Which is basically the number 1 requirement for a hooker. Not to mention his defence is weak

I have to agree with you... He starts ok but once he is gets tried his passing is just terrible. Today he passed one behind the players to no one and we lost like 15 metres and that's happened a few times recently. I would like to give Simpkin a go and even have Liddle on the bench as they could work together if needed on the field.
Pointless having Simpkin there and just training and no game time as that just slows down his development.

We so poor close to the line not sure if liddle or Brooks fault,

Blore still seems a bit lost with line running, they seem to be too on top of each other. Not sure what the issue is,

For me you just don't see Liddle organising the team. I know its a pipe dream but last year we had Grant and he just ran the show. Even watching the Storm he knows when to pass or run and his passes are crisp.. Agree we just look lost in attack on there line and really miss Laurie today

100 percent he is pretty poor, wonder why simpkin not getting another go, would like to know madge reasoning

It blows my mind as we are not making finals this year anyway.. The only reason would be him thinking Liddle is a better chance of winning games to keep his job but that goes against the development approach we currently have.

 

[tony soprano]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

The bloke with terrible service that can’t keep up during games? No thanks. Liddle had his chance this year. Time for Simpkin to step in.


Liddle has had more than enough chances this year, I would bring Simpkin back next week

I totally disagree. Jacob Liddle has been one of the better performers week-in and week-out for the Tigers this year. You are seeing things in Simpkin that I sure as hell haven't seen in the opportiunities he's had in the top grade or his game in the NSW Cup.

Liddle was horrendous. What are you watching. The bloke can't pass. Which is basically the number 1 requirement for a hooker. Not to mention his defence is weak

I have to agree with you... He starts ok but once he is gets tried his passing is just terrible. Today he passed one behind the players to no one and we lost like 15 metres and that's happened a few times recently. I would like to give Simpkin a go and even have Liddle on the bench as they could work together if needed on the field.
Pointless having Simpkin there and just training and no game time as that just slows down his development.

We so poor close to the line not sure if liddle or Brooks fault,

Blore still seems a bit lost with line running, they seem to be too on top of each other. Not sure what the issue is,

For me you just don't see Liddle organising the team. I know its a pipe dream but last year we had Grant and he just ran the show. Even watching the Storm he knows when to pass or run and his passes are crisp.. Agree we just look lost in attack on there line and really miss Laurie today

100 percent he is pretty poor, wonder why simpkin not getting another go, would like to know madge reasoning

It blows my mind as we are not making finals this year anyway.. The only reason would be him thinking Liddle is a better chance of winning games to keep his job but that goes against the development approach we currently have.

Yeah I can understand madge trying to save his job but maybe simpkin can link everyone better but I think your on the money it's just a safer bet for job security


It's going to be demoralising losing to the cowboys who we are on top of the ladder atm.

But in fairness we are probably the 3rd worst team.

 

[hsvjones]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

The bloke with terrible service that can’t keep up during games? No thanks. Liddle had his chance this year. Time for Simpkin to step in.


Liddle has had more than enough chances this year, I would bring Simpkin back next week

I totally disagree. Jacob Liddle has been one of the better performers week-in and week-out for the Tigers this year. You are seeing things in Simpkin that I sure as hell haven't seen in the opportiunities he's had in the top grade or his game in the NSW Cup.

Liddle was horrendous. What are you watching. The bloke can't pass. Which is basically the number 1 requirement for a hooker. Not to mention his defence is weak

I have to agree with you... He starts ok but once he is gets tried his passing is just terrible. Today he passed one behind the players to no one and we lost like 15 metres and that's happened a few times recently. I would like to give Simpkin a go and even have Liddle on the bench as they could work together if needed on the field.
Pointless having Simpkin there and just training and no game time as that just slows down his development.

We so poor close to the line not sure if liddle or Brooks fault,

Blore still seems a bit lost with line running, they seem to be too on top of each other. Not sure what the issue is,

For me you just don't see Liddle organising the team. I know its a pipe dream but last year we had Grant and he just ran the show. Even watching the Storm he knows when to pass or run and his passes are crisp.. Agree we just look lost in attack on there line and really miss Laurie today

100 percent he is pretty poor, wonder why simpkin not getting another go, would like to know madge reasoning

It blows my mind as we are not making finals this year anyway.. The only reason would be him thinking Liddle is a better chance of winning games to keep his job but that goes against the development approach we currently have.

Yeah I can understand madge trying to save his job but maybe simpkin can link everyone better but I think your on the money it's just a safer bet for job security


It's going to be demoralising losing to the cowboys who we are on top of the ladder atm.

But in fairness we are probably the 3rd worst team.

The funny thing is the cowboys have lost like 8 in a row and if that was us it would be front page on all papers... We all know we are a team that helps other break there drought.. Just like the Tommy R game this year v them..

 

[TigerTone]

Here's hoping that Tim Sheens has the list of off-contract
players and is doing his homework.
Cause we need afew changes in afew positions.
What we have in some positions at the moment isnt NRL standard.

 

[TigerTownSFS]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

The bloke with terrible service that can’t keep up during games? No thanks. Liddle had his chance this year. Time for Simpkin to step in.


Liddle has had more than enough chances this year, I would bring Simpkin back next week

I totally disagree. Jacob Liddle has been one of the better performers week-in and week-out for the Tigers this year. You are seeing things in Simpkin that I sure as hell haven't seen in the opportiunities he's had in the top grade or his game in the NSW Cup.

Liddle was horrendous. What are you watching. The bloke can't pass. Which is basically the number 1 requirement for a hooker. Not to mention his defence is weak

I have to agree with you... He starts ok but once he is gets tried his passing is just terrible. Today he passed one behind the players to no one and we lost like 15 metres and that's happened a few times recently. I would like to give Simpkin a go and even have Liddle on the bench as they could work together if needed on the field.
Pointless having Simpkin there and just training and no game time as that just slows down his development.

We so poor close to the line not sure if liddle or Brooks fault,

Blore still seems a bit lost with line running, they seem to be too on top of each other. Not sure what the issue is,

For me you just don't see Liddle organising the team. I know its a pipe dream but last year we had Grant and he just ran the show. Even watching the Storm he knows when to pass or run and his passes are crisp.. Agree we just look lost in attack on there line and really miss Laurie today

100 percent he is pretty poor, wonder why simpkin not getting another go, would like to know madge reasoning

It blows my mind as we are not making finals this year anyway.. The only reason would be him thinking Liddle is a better chance of winning games to keep his job but that goes against the development approach we currently have.

Yeah I can understand madge trying to save his job but maybe simpkin can link everyone better but I think your on the money it's just a safer bet for job security


It's going to be demoralising losing to the cowboys who we are on top of the ladder atm.

But in fairness we are probably the 3rd worst team.

The funny thing is the cowboys have lost like 8 in a row and if that was us it would be front page on all papers... We all know we are a team that helps other break there drought.. Just like the Tommy R game this year v them..

Cowboys had lost their opening 4 rounds before they blew us off the park in round 5 at Leichhardt oval. We played them into form then and they went on a winning streak for a month or so

 

[TYGA]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

The bloke with terrible service that can’t keep up during games? No thanks. Liddle had his chance this year. Time for Simpkin to step in.


Liddle has had more than enough chances this year, I would bring Simpkin back next week

I totally disagree. Jacob Liddle has been one of the better performers week-in and week-out for the Tigers this year. You are seeing things in Simpkin that I sure as hell haven't seen in the opportiunities he's had in the top grade or his game in the NSW Cup.

Liddle was horrendous. What are you watching. The bloke can't pass. Which is basically the number 1 requirement for a hooker. Not to mention his defence is weak

I have to agree with you... He starts ok but once he is gets tried his passing is just terrible. Today he passed one behind the players to no one and we lost like 15 metres and that's happened a few times recently. I would like to give Simpkin a go and even have Liddle on the bench as they could work together if needed on the field.
Pointless having Simpkin there and just training and no game time as that just slows down his development.

We so poor close to the line not sure if liddle or Brooks fault,

Blore still seems a bit lost with line running, they seem to be too on top of each other. Not sure what the issue is,

For me you just don't see Liddle organising the team. I know its a pipe dream but last year we had Grant and he just ran the show. Even watching the Storm he knows when to pass or run and his passes are crisp.. Agree we just look lost in attack on there line and really miss Laurie today

100 percent he is pretty poor, wonder why simpkin not getting another go, would like to know madge reasoning

It blows my mind as we are not making finals this year anyway.. The only reason would be him thinking Liddle is a better chance of winning games to keep his job but that goes against the development approach we currently have.

Yeah I can understand madge trying to save his job but maybe simpkin can link everyone better but I think your on the money it's just a safer bet for job security


It's going to be demoralising losing to the cowboys who we are on top of the ladder atm.

But in fairness we are probably the 3rd worst team.

The funny thing is the cowboys have lost like 8 in a row and if that was us it would be front page on all papers... We all know we are a team that helps other break there drought.. Just like the Tommy R game this year v them..

This is very true and we don’t have the players the cowboys have. Taumololo, Fedlt, Holmes, Hess? Hammer, McLean, Granville, Molo. When fit they have 5 current origin players and an International in Taumololo.

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

The bloke with terrible service that can’t keep up during games? No thanks. Liddle had his chance this year. Time for Simpkin to step in.


Liddle has had more than enough chances this year, I would bring Simpkin back next week

I totally disagree. Jacob Liddle has been one of the better performers week-in and week-out for the Tigers this year. You are seeing things in Simpkin that I sure as hell haven't seen in the opportiunities he's had in the top grade or his game in the NSW Cup.

Liddle was horrendous. What are you watching. The bloke can't pass. Which is basically the number 1 requirement for a hooker. Not to mention his defence is weak

I have to agree with you... He starts ok but once he is gets tried his passing is just terrible. Today he passed one behind the players to no one and we lost like 15 metres and that's happened a few times recently. I would like to give Simpkin a go and even have Liddle on the bench as they could work together if needed on the field.
Pointless having Simpkin there and just training and no game time as that just slows down his development.

We so poor close to the line not sure if liddle or Brooks fault,

Blore still seems a bit lost with line running, they seem to be too on top of each other. Not sure what the issue is,

For me you just don't see Liddle organising the team. I know its a pipe dream but last year we had Grant and he just ran the show. Even watching the Storm he knows when to pass or run and his passes are crisp.. Agree we just look lost in attack on there line and really miss Laurie today

100 percent he is pretty poor, wonder why simpkin not getting another go, would like to know madge reasoning

I found it bizarre with Laurie out and Mbye at fullback we carry Cini on the bench so Moses can move to dummy half cause Liddle can’t run out a game. Why not carry Simpkin and leave Moses where he is.