Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[batboy]

Thompson would be a perfect buy.

Respectfully disagree.

At 800k plus thats marquee money for average forward.

If he's worth that then Stefano and the rest deserve the same at least to stay.

100% no thanks. Let yhe Dogs suffer

You’re saying he’s an average forward?
We must watch different games

Some people just watch the game and judge individuals purely on wins and losses. Others just look at the stat line. When you’re in a really bad side that’s not the way to go. This bloke at his age ticks a lot of boxes for us. Toughness being #1.

Thompson is a good player. There is a limited cap. As the Storm demonstrated last night with JAC and Papenhuyzen, outright pace wins games. We need a lot of it before we need another prop. Prop is the one position we have well covered.

Remember this time last year when we signed one of the fastest players in the game...
Have barely seen him break out of a canter...

Should call him "Jimmy can Jog"

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Maumalo and Nofo, aren't the fastest but they definitely aren't the slowest.

Nofo, we only see run sideways usually though.

Both are tidy finishers and are capable of doing their job...

Nofo needs to get back to his best. The lengthy contract has appeared to kill his motivation and desire.

With some better centres inside them, they could both take their game to the next level.

Doing their job is not good enough. If we want to be like the Storm, we need to look at their play book. Pace, Pace and more pace.

 

[Demps]

Maumalo and Nofo, aren't the fastest but they definitely aren't the slowest.

Nofo, we only see run sideways usually though.

Both are tidy finishers and are capable of doing their job...

Nofo needs to get back to his best. The lengthy contract has appeared to kill his motivation and desire.

With some better centres inside them, they could both take their game to the next level.

100% wingers just hang around footballers, we need footballers for them to hang around.

Beau Ryan looked like super star franchise player on the wing, falling over the line and making some easy hit ups.

If Nofo can get back to his best or 2020 form, I'm happy with these two going forward...

As @GNR4LIFE said, 4 year contract... Get use to Nofo and his lack of effort.

 

[BAGNF05]

Maumalo and Nofo, aren't the fastest but they definitely aren't the slowest.

Nofo, we only see run sideways usually though.

Both are tidy finishers and are capable of doing their job...

Nofo needs to get back to his best. The lengthy contract has appeared to kill his motivation and desire.

With some better centres inside them, they could both take their game to the next level.

Doing their job is not good enough. If we want to be like the Storm, we need to look at their play book. Pace, Pace and more pace.

To use your pace you first need to create space, which comes from momentum. The Storm forwards are like clock work. Big Stef is doing a fine job but we can’t rely on him alone. Him and big Thommo in tandem would improve us immensely. Then if we can add a classy back rower and centre too. We’re getting there.

 

[BAGNF05]

Maumalo and Nofo, aren't the fastest but they definitely aren't the slowest.

Nofo, we only see run sideways usually though.

Both are tidy finishers and are capable of doing their job...

Nofo needs to get back to his best. The lengthy contract has appeared to kill his motivation and desire.

With some better centres inside them, they could both take their game to the next level.

100% wingers just hang around footballers, we need footballers for them to hang around.

Beau Ryan looked like super star franchise player on the wing, falling over the line and making some easy hit ups.

If Nofo can get back to his best or 2020 form, I'm happy with these two going forward...

As @GNR4LIFE said, 4 year contract... Get use to Nofo and his lack of effort.

Hazem El Masri, Wolf man, Curtis Rona, Robert Jennings, many an ordinary winger has looked good behind a strong forward pack.

 

[The_Patriot]

I think it's more about the lack of genuine strike power on the edges than either props or fast wingers. We must have one of the most average edges in the game.

Need a strike centre and another edge back rower.

 

[earl]

Need a strike centre and another edge back rower.

We have some options. Move AD to the centres. Gildart/Talau/Roberts may do the job in the centres.

Hopefully Blore and Tuilagi come good.

I agree with you though that our edges are ordinary and need a massive improvement. It's just not that bad. I'd love to get a quality player like Thompson.

 

[Demps]

Need a strike centre and another edge back rower.

We have some options. Move AD to the centres. Gildart/Talau/Roberts may do the job in the centres.

Hopefully Blore and Tuilagi come good.

I agree with you though that our edges are ordinary and need a massive improvement. It's just not that bad. I'd love to get a quality player like Thompson.

Centre is definitely weak for us.
The mentioned players are not in anyway strike players.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Maumalo and Nofo, aren't the fastest but they definitely aren't the slowest.

Nofo, we only see run sideways usually though.

Both are tidy finishers and are capable of doing their job...

Nofo needs to get back to his best. The lengthy contract has appeared to kill his motivation and desire.

With some better centres inside them, they could both take their game to the next level.

100% wingers just hang around footballers, we need footballers for them to hang around.

Beau Ryan looked like super star franchise player on the wing, falling over the line and making some easy hit ups.

If Nofo can get back to his best or 2020 form, I'm happy with these two going forward...

As @GNR4LIFE said, 4 year contract... Get use to Nofo and his lack of effort.

Beau Ryan had Chris Lawrence, Benji, Tim Moltzen and Tim Simona playing with him. All were quick.. We have Brooks and Laurie. We have a huge issue with lack of pace.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Thompson would be a perfect buy.

Respectfully disagree.

At 800k plus thats marquee money for average forward.

If he's worth that then Stefano and the rest deserve the same at least to stay.

100% no thanks. Let yhe Dogs suffer

You’re saying he’s an average forward?
We must watch different games

Some people just watch the game and judge individuals purely on wins and losses. Others just look at the stat line. When you’re in a really bad side that’s not the way to go. This bloke at his age ticks a lot of boxes for us. Toughness being #1.

Thompson is a good player. There is a limited cap. As the Storm demonstrated last night with JAC and Papenhuyzen, outright pace wins games. We need a lot of it before we need another prop. Prop is the one position we have well covered.

I reckon you've got this right. We have two decent wingers but they are slow and they will and do get caught out with pace.

I think one quality prop would help us though. I think some pace out wide would help us more.

I think we need both a good prop and some pace in the backline. We should have the money to address both issues hopefully.

 

[Demps]

Maumalo and Nofo, aren't the fastest but they definitely aren't the slowest.

Nofo, we only see run sideways usually though.

Both are tidy finishers and are capable of doing their job...

Nofo needs to get back to his best. The lengthy contract has appeared to kill his motivation and desire.

With some better centres inside them, they could both take their game to the next level.

Doing their job is not good enough. If we want to be like the Storm, we need to look at their play book. Pace, Pace and more pace.

Storm have always been the blue print to a successful, strong team.....

Thr Olam/JAC side is very strong.
The other side though? Nothing too impressive.

Reimis probably has the same skill as Maumalo.

I'm not disagreeing though.
I'd love some more speed and strike in the backline.

No reason Laurie can't be our own version of Papz.

It's a shame Fitzgibbon flopped and didn't work out to be our JAC.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Need a strike centre and another edge back rower.

We have some options. Move AD to the centres. Gildart/Talau/Roberts may do the job in the centres.

Hopefully Blore and Tuilagi come good.

I agree with you though that our edges are ordinary and need a massive improvement. It's just not that bad. I'd love to get a quality player like Thompson.

Centre is definitely weak for us.
The mentioned players are not in anyway strike players.

Gildart definitely has pace but he has issues in other areas

 

[Demps]

Maumalo and Nofo, aren't the fastest but they definitely aren't the slowest.

Nofo, we only see run sideways usually though.

Both are tidy finishers and are capable of doing their job...

Nofo needs to get back to his best. The lengthy contract has appeared to kill his motivation and desire.

With some better centres inside them, they could both take their game to the next level.

100% wingers just hang around footballers, we need footballers for them to hang around.

Beau Ryan looked like super star franchise player on the wing, falling over the line and making some easy hit ups.

If Nofo can get back to his best or 2020 form, I'm happy with these two going forward...

As @GNR4LIFE said, 4 year contract... Get use to Nofo and his lack of effort.

Beau Ryan had Chris Lawrence, Benji, Tim Moltzen and Tim Simona playing with him. All were quick.. We have Brooks and Laurie. We have a huge issue with lack of pace.

The good old days.
100%

I wouldn't mind looking at some of the Dragons up and comers.

Tyrell Sloane, 1 of Danes best mates.
He looks like he could become a JAC clone on the wing.

 

[Demps]

Need a strike centre and another edge back rower.

We have some options. Move AD to the centres. Gildart/Talau/Roberts may do the job in the centres.

Hopefully Blore and Tuilagi come good.

I agree with you though that our edges are ordinary and need a massive improvement. It's just not that bad. I'd love to get a quality player like Thompson.

Centre is definitely weak for us.
The mentioned players are not in anyway strike players.

Gildart definitely has pace but he has issues in other areas

Facts.

Been checking him out since announced.
His attacking game a worry.

 

[Milky]

Don’t sign that bulldogs prop, I forget his name.

He is contracted til end of 2023 as I understand and wants to secure his long term future? reeks of ‘I want to get my pay sorted and slack off’

 

[Demps]

Don’t sign that bulldogs prop, I forget his name.

He is contracted til end of 2023 as I understand and wants to secure his long term future? reeks of ‘I want to get my pay sorted and slack off’

He is only 25 though.

Probably still hungry and wanting to prove himself int the NRL.

James Graham played hard till the very end.
The British forwards are a different beast.

 

[tony soprano]

madge had interview on SEN this arvo and he said he wants a Big Prop at club next year as a preferred signing

What else the boss say

hey Tony Soprano, it was a great interview, talked about how excited he was about the young kids coming through, how the trip away has made the team tighter, looking for a front rower in particular, in regards to recruitment there wasnt much out there and were not going to pay overs like they had in the past but if they find someone good they will go after them. He payed homage to Moses Mbye and what a good team player he was. Also mentioned looking for more leaders at club like Adam Doughie

Thanks mate yeah ended up finding a link.

He Seems keen to find a few experienced SOO/finals playing players for the right price. Question is who tho?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Need a strike centre and another edge back rower.

We have some options. Move AD to the centres. Gildart/Talau/Roberts may do the job in the centres.

Hopefully Blore and Tuilagi come good.

I agree with you though that our edges are ordinary and need a massive improvement. It's just not that bad. I'd love to get a quality player like Thompson.

Centre is definitely weak for us.
The mentioned players are not in anyway strike players.

Gildart definitely has pace but he has issues in other areas

Facts.

Been checking him out since announced.
His attacking game a worry.

To exacerbate the issue, many want to add a snail in Hastings to the 6 jersey.

 

[Demps]

Need a strike centre and another edge back rower.

We have some options. Move AD to the centres. Gildart/Talau/Roberts may do the job in the centres.

Hopefully Blore and Tuilagi come good.

I agree with you though that our edges are ordinary and need a massive improvement. It's just not that bad. I'd love to get a quality player like Thompson.

Centre is definitely weak for us.
The mentioned players are not in anyway strike players.

Gildart definitely has pace but he has issues in other areas

Facts.

Been checking him out since announced.
His attacking game a worry.

To exacerbate the issue, many want to add a snail in Hastings to the 6 jersey.

Cronk won a GF "playing" in the halves with a busted shoulder

I think Hastings will bring a level of leadership, mongrel and a strong voice on the field...

I personally want AD to stay at 6 though.

 

[TIGERPOWER]

Comments suggesting it doesn't matter as they're only reserve graders are missing the point. These players were identified by us and we made them offers. They turned us down. There is no point having a youth strategy if we're unable to sign them.

The vast majority of NRL players will resign with their current clubs. This is not an issue unique to Wests Tigers. Do you think the Wests Tigers were the only club that identified either of these guys?

They are not the only two players we've gone after. We've gone after many other players that have signed with rival clubs.

So what? We are a club that isn’t very attractive because we have spent so much time near the bottom. That won’t change overnight.

You conveniently ignore all the junior talent we have signed because we missed out on 2.

We've missed out on a lot more than two unless of course we didn't really make them an offer at all -

TPJ
JAC
LM
AJ Brimson
Lomax
Jai Arrow
HSS
Egan

Ah so now you’re changing the argument to make the list longer, sorry I didn’t realise players in their mid 20,s were classed as junior talent.

Not changing the argument at all. Egan and HSS were no doubt being recruited for our NRL side, not to sit in KOE. These are players we were linked to and have signed zero. Our miss rate is shocking.

Do you believe bringing Sheens back is an admission a cog is amiss in our recruitment wheel (note I believe Hartigan is doing a fine job)?

Hartigan is also a big piece of the recruitment team, not just Madge.

If our recruitment purportedly sucks, the blame lays with the entire team. You don't get to pick and choose who to single out.

I think whoever is identifying the talent (I imagine a mix of Hartigan and Madge) is doing a good job. They just can't close a deal. That's the issue

Yeah and you will not get an argument from me about that either. We are flush with cash so it's not about that. It's either we are refusing to pay overs to attract the talent as it appears we have had a bit of a moneyball approach of late, or they don't want to be here.

But my reply to Paws was moreso about his willingness to apportion blame toward Madge in it's entirety and absolve absolutely everyone else in the process. Never anyone else's fault but Maguire's.

It's not an unreasonable expectation the NRL coach is the No 1 cog in recruiting NRL players to a club.

Is it also unreasonable to expect your halfback to be the number 1 cog in your team?