Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[CCWT]

Anything said about who our coach will be.

Keen to know myself... Fingers crossed we know this week

The Pom has indicated that Madge would hold his coaching position.
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All this Review is achieving is wasting valuable time in recruiting decent capable players.. What a wierd and wasteful mob the Wests tigers organisation is.

Madge isn't safe yet.

Wish the same for the board pascoe and hartigan. All time low for the club

With Hartigan and assistance from Sheens, our club is well placed to recruit new talent. IMO acquiring good young players on the cusp of the NRL is an excellent outcome. You only have to revisit the Laurie and Utoikamanu signings to realise the value they bring to our team. My fingers are crossed a new coach will bring an incremental improvement to our play generally but specifically our defence.

Yeah, I don't know how people don't see this.

Sheens has been out of the loop for years and Hartigan has not set the world alight.

Both are intelligent men and assets to WTs. I have confidence in both men.

Confidence can be misplaced and when it is it becomes dangerous.
Maybe I’ll be corrected next year. Wait and see.

Depends what leads to that confidence.

Agreed. There seems to be some blind faith though and that’s a worry.

I don't have blind faith.

I’m not necessarily saying you. I don’t know you. I’m speaking generally.

I base my opinion on Hartigan on conversations, he has an outstanding knowledge of the game, players right across the game and I like his approach. I believe he is a massive asset to this club.

Maybe he should be in pathways and talent identification then and not general manager..

No he is good in the GM role.

Also I’m genuinely curious, what makes you believe he is good in that role? You have obviously met him, could he just be a good talker? It seems he is great at identifying talent but I’m yet to see why he deserves that role with all the rumours of not returning calls or emails

I have heard those rumours but have never had a problem getting a reply from him, usually replies to me within about 30 mins and I am just a lowly fan. I can't judge someone on rumours when I have seen the opposite. I have spent more than 10 hours with him talking football, specific to the Tigers and in general. I have spoken about specific situations and events over the last couple of years and I am very happy with his dealings of those situations. I have spoken recruitment with him and have a fair idea of the process we go through when signing players. I can see what he is trying to achieve at our club and want him to be given the time needed to see this through. I trust him as there are a lot similarities between how I see the game and how he does.

I am not trying to big note myself by saying this, I am honestly answering your question. I honestly believe he is the most important person in the club.

That’s good to hear, thanks. Hopefully he can make some positive changes to the club moving forward

 

[tony soprano]

Anything said about who our coach will be.

Keen to know myself... Fingers crossed we know this week

The Pom has indicated that Madge would hold his coaching position.
c
All this Review is achieving is wasting valuable time in recruiting decent capable players.. What a wierd and wasteful mob the Wests tigers organisation is.

Madge isn't safe yet.

Wish the same for the board pascoe and hartigan. All time low for the club

With Hartigan and assistance from Sheens, our club is well placed to recruit new talent. IMO acquiring good young players on the cusp of the NRL is an excellent outcome. You only have to revisit the Laurie and Utoikamanu signings to realise the value they bring to our team. My fingers are crossed a new coach will bring an incremental improvement to our play generally but specifically our defence.

Yeah, I don't know how people don't see this.

Sheens has been out of the loop for years and Hartigan has not set the world alight.

Both are intelligent men and assets to WTs. I have confidence in both men.

Confidence can be misplaced and when it is it becomes dangerous.
Maybe I’ll be corrected next year. Wait and see.

Depends what leads to that confidence.

Agreed. There seems to be some blind faith though and that’s a worry.

I don't have blind faith.

I’m not necessarily saying you. I don’t know you. I’m speaking generally.

I base my opinion on Hartigan on conversations, he has an outstanding knowledge of the game, players right across the game and I like his approach. I believe he is a massive asset to this club.

Maybe he should be in pathways and talent identification then and not general manager..

No he is good in the GM role.

Also I’m genuinely curious, what makes you believe he is good in that role? You have obviously met him, could he just be a good talker? It seems he is great at identifying talent but I’m yet to see why he deserves that role with all the rumours of not returning calls or emails

He's out of his depth.

 

[yeahcaz]

If JFH is an 800k a year prop, so am I and I’m barely 77kgs with shoes on.

Gone absolutely missing 2 straight weeks against packs that want it more

Geez your tough - tonight he was great.
His defensive efforts was massive, very big key to holding the Eels in the 30mtrs often and slowing the ruck speed down. He made 49 tackles today. Most in the game. Not many props do that in 50 odd minutes.

Maybe the first half but he did very little in terms of limiting parras pack.
RCG - 151 metres
Paulo - 151 metres
Isaiah - 124 metres
Matto - 135 metres.

You’re not paying a prop of his ilk 800k to just make tackles In a game of that stature.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

If JFH is an 800k a year prop, so am I and I’m barely 77kgs with shoes on.

Gone absolutely missing 2 straight weeks against packs that want it more

Geez your tough - tonight he was great.
His defensive efforts was massive, very big key to holding the Eels in the 30mtrs often and slowing the ruck speed down. He made 49 tackles today. Most in the game. Not many props do that in 50 odd minutes.

Maybe the first half but he did very little in terms of limiting parras pack.
RCG - 151 metres
Paulo - 151 metres
Isaiah - 124 metres
Matto - 135 metres.

You’re not paying a prop of his ilk 800k to just make tackles In a game of that stature.

hope we try and sound out Paulo to partner Stef

 

[cochise]

If JFH is an 800k a year prop, so am I and I’m barely 77kgs with shoes on.

Gone absolutely missing 2 straight weeks against packs that want it more

Geez your tough - tonight he was great.
His defensive efforts was massive, very big key to holding the Eels in the 30mtrs often and slowing the ruck speed down. He made 49 tackles today. Most in the game. Not many props do that in 50 odd minutes.

Maybe the first half but he did very little in terms of limiting parras pack.
RCG - 151 metres
Paulo - 151 metres
Isaiah - 124 metres
Matto - 135 metres.

You’re not paying a prop of his ilk 800k to just make tackles In a game of that stature.

hope we try and sound out Paulo to partner Stef

Would be the perfect partner.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

If JFH is an 800k a year prop, so am I and I’m barely 77kgs with shoes on.

Gone absolutely missing 2 straight weeks against packs that want it more

Geez your tough - tonight he was great.
His defensive efforts was massive, very big key to holding the Eels in the 30mtrs often and slowing the ruck speed down. He made 49 tackles today. Most in the game. Not many props do that in 50 odd minutes.

Maybe the first half but he did very little in terms of limiting parras pack.
RCG - 151 metres
Paulo - 151 metres
Isaiah - 124 metres
Matto - 135 metres.

You’re not paying a prop of his ilk 800k to just make tackles In a game of that stature.

hope we try and sound out Paulo to partner Stef

Would be the perfect partner.

wonder how much he woukd cost

 

[Needaname]

If JFH is an 800k a year prop, so am I and I’m barely 77kgs with shoes on.

Gone absolutely missing 2 straight weeks against packs that want it more

Geez your tough - tonight he was great.
His defensive efforts was massive, very big key to holding the Eels in the 30mtrs often and slowing the ruck speed down. He made 49 tackles today. Most in the game. Not many props do that in 50 odd minutes.

Maybe the first half but he did very little in terms of limiting parras pack.
RCG - 151 metres
Paulo - 151 metres
Isaiah - 124 metres
Matto - 135 metres.

You’re not paying a prop of his ilk 800k to just make tackles In a game of that stature.

hope we try and sound out Paulo to partner Stef

Would be the perfect partner.

I think one of Paulo, Papali or Niakore won’t be re signed.
I’d be asking his manager if there has been any movements in terms of an extension following 23.

There’s a fair few off contract at Parramatta I’m sure Parramatta will sign who they want to prior to November 1.

If it’s a no go, I’d offer Tapau a 2 year contract.

 

[yeahcaz]

If JFH is an 800k a year prop, so am I and I’m barely 77kgs with shoes on.

Gone absolutely missing 2 straight weeks against packs that want it more

Geez your tough - tonight he was great.
His defensive efforts was massive, very big key to holding the Eels in the 30mtrs often and slowing the ruck speed down. He made 49 tackles today. Most in the game. Not many props do that in 50 odd minutes.

Maybe the first half but he did very little in terms of limiting parras pack.
RCG - 151 metres
Paulo - 151 metres
Isaiah - 124 metres
Matto - 135 metres.

You’re not paying a prop of his ilk 800k to just make tackles In a game of that stature.

hope we try and sound out Paulo to partner Stef

In last week and tonight’s game as well as the Melbourne win I thought he was closest to the best forward on ground. Had a really strong finish to the year

 

[yeahcaz]

If JFH is an 800k a year prop, so am I and I’m barely 77kgs with shoes on.

Gone absolutely missing 2 straight weeks against packs that want it more

Geez your tough - tonight he was great.
His defensive efforts was massive, very big key to holding the Eels in the 30mtrs often and slowing the ruck speed down. He made 49 tackles today. Most in the game. Not many props do that in 50 odd minutes.

Maybe the first half but he did very little in terms of limiting parras pack.
RCG - 151 metres
Paulo - 151 metres
Isaiah - 124 metres
Matto - 135 metres.

You’re not paying a prop of his ilk 800k to just make tackles In a game of that stature.

hope we try and sound out Paulo to partner Stef

Would be the perfect partner.

wonder how much he woukd cost

You’d think it’s definitely 7-800

 

[jirskyr]

If JFH is an 800k a year prop, so am I and I’m barely 77kgs with shoes on.

Gone absolutely missing 2 straight weeks against packs that want it more

Geez your tough - tonight he was great.
His defensive efforts was massive, very big key to holding the Eels in the 30mtrs often and slowing the ruck speed down. He made 49 tackles today. Most in the game. Not many props do that in 50 odd minutes.

Penrith are noticeably off the pace, but they have only had about 4 games through the season where the other side brought the game to them physically. They are slowly warming into this sort of football.

Hard to get over that game and be ready for the Storm next week.

Hard to ever be ready for the Storm.

 

[Harvey]

I would offer Peachey 2 years at 400k, with a 3rd year for 250k as an option in his favour.

If he is garbage, he can hang around for the 3rd year not costing much, if he is good, we can look to upgrade and extend

 

[Harvey]

I am extremely concerned about our recruitment.

Last year we signed Grant to a 1 year contract (agreed loan deal) and gave him first grade experience & sent him back to the storm a better player.

Until I see extensions signed, I am not convinced that we are not doing the same (over more time) with Laurie, Blore & Stefano

 

[gallagher]

I am extremely concerned about our recruitment.

Last year we signed Grant to a 1 year contract (agreed loan deal) and gave him first grade experience & sent him back to the storm a better player.

Until I see extensions signed, I am not convinced that we are not doing the same (over more time) with Laurie, Blore & Stefano

Stef, in particular, would be mad to stay here unless things turn around remarkably. He's a star

 

[jrtiger]

I am extremely concerned about our recruitment.

Last year we signed Grant to a 1 year contract (agreed loan deal) and gave him first grade experience & sent him back to the storm a better player.

Until I see extensions signed, I am not convinced that we are not doing the same (over more time) with Laurie, Blore & Stefano

we needed Harry last year. Walters was never going to cut it as a full time 9 and Lids was injured. Blore has been resigned, so has Simpkin. we have 12 months before Stef can be approached, I've got little doubt we'll be moving to tie him up well before then. similar situation with Daine.

 

[happy_tiger]

If JFH is an 800k a year prop, so am I and I’m barely 77kgs with shoes on.

Gone absolutely missing 2 straight weeks against packs that want it more

Geez your tough - tonight he was great.
His defensive efforts was massive, very big key to holding the Eels in the 30mtrs often and slowing the ruck speed down. He made 49 tackles today. Most in the game. Not many props do that in 50 odd minutes.

Maybe the first half but he did very little in terms of limiting parras pack.
RCG - 151 metres
Paulo - 151 metres
Isaiah - 124 metres
Matto - 135 metres.

You’re not paying a prop of his ilk 800k to just make tackles In a game of that stature.

Bloke was out for 4 weeks because of the birth of his child and then returning to the bubble

He is still an 800 k player ..or maybe he shouldn't have returned home for his bub's birth

 

[TYGA]

I am extremely concerned about our recruitment.

Last year we signed Grant to a 1 year contract (agreed loan deal) and gave him first grade experience & sent him back to the storm a better player.

Until I see extensions signed, I am not convinced that we are not doing the same (over more time) with Laurie, Blore & Stefano

Until we bring through our own juniors we will continue to be a stepping stone club. We are 5 years away I would be surprised if we keep many of these young kids. Our real hope is with the current Flegg players and below. Hopefully we get it right and increase no extend before the last year of contracts. Agents are smart though we have to pay to retain.

 

[bptiger 0]

To build a pack , 1st forward I would sign is Naikore , he is a gun

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

To build a pack , 1st forward I would sign is Naikore , he is a gun

you mean marata niukore ?

 

[GCfan]

Bulldogs cap..no where to be seen

Arthur “Politis” Laundy

 

[Tiger5150]

I am extremely concerned about our recruitment.

Last year we signed Grant to a 1 year contract (agreed loan deal) and gave him first grade experience & sent him back to the storm a better player.

Until I see extensions signed, I am not convinced that we are not doing the same (over more time) with Laurie, Blore & Stefano

Until we bring through our own juniors we will continue to be a stepping stone club. We are 5 years away I would be surprised if we keep many of these young kids. Our real hope is with the current Flegg players and below. Hopefully we get it right and increase no extend before the last year of contracts. Agents are smart though we have to pay to retain.

IMO we need visible structural change and for me that means the coach if we can get a suitable superior option (IMO Ciraldo or stay with Madge). We need to show the current and potential future players that the club is making changes but do it without butchering the good things that have been put in place (junior pathways etc).

I know everyone wants a top down clean out and I understand the superficial desire for that, but IMO its a dangerous route. The club DOES need systemic change but it also has the green shoots of good systems at the bottom that could/should pay off in 3-5years time. It is the nature of a board that if we replace the board in total, they are compelled to "Do something" and clean everything and everyone out. That might work but it also pushes everything back to square one.

After waiting the last 10 years, I dont want to go back to square 1. I like what I see with junior pathways, I like the idea of Sheens role, in principle I like Hartigans role, love the CoE being here in 12 months.

I want a "lite" clean out. All coaching staff except Madge if we cant get Ciraldo and I'd punt Burgess from the Board and replace him with an independent.