Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480399) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480396) said:
go to a Draft
let the NRL fund the junior nurseries then it doesn't matter where we play
Leichhardt campbletown SFS or Batlow
team like Roosters don't have juniors anyway and they go pretty well

The best team in the country plays out of a state that will never be a nursery.

exactly they plunder Qld to get players
In a draft we would have a shot at a Sam Walker or something
How good would Draft night be for ratings it would be awesome
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480401) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480399) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480396) said:
go to a Draft
let the NRL fund the junior nurseries then it doesn't matter where we play
Leichhardt campbletown SFS or Batlow
team like Roosters don't have juniors anyway and they go pretty well

The best team in the country plays out of a state that will never be a nursery.

exactly they plunder Qld to get players
In a draft we would have a shot at a Sam Walker or something
How good would Draft night be for ratings it would be awesome

Does the AFL draft rate?
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480396) said:
go to a Draft
let the NRL fund the junior nurseries then it doesn't matter where we play
Leichhardt campbletown SFS or Batlow
team like Roosters don't have juniors anyway and they go pretty well

I think the NRL need to go to looking after the juniors. It was ok when it was a Sydney comp with no competition but leaving juniour development to clubs is dangerous.
 
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480404) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480396) said:
go to a Draft
let the NRL fund the junior nurseries then it doesn't matter where we play
Leichhardt campbletown SFS or Batlow
team like Roosters don't have juniors anyway and they go pretty well

I think the NRL need to go to looking after the juniors. It was ok when it was a Sydney comp with no competition but leaving juniour development to clubs is dangerous.

What they need to consider is a cap for juniors / 2nd Tier
You have your elite junior players in dev contracts etc. but in reality the only reason why the Roosters were competitive this year was because they loosened the laws around players outside the 30. They basically had 2 whole squads to pick players from.
If anyone remembers the ‘official nrl trial’ agaisnt is a the start of the year.
Well only 2 of the players in that squad were the roosters top 30 to start the year.
They ended up finishing the year with half the bears team none of which were part of their squad to start the season.
 
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480208) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480205) said:
@clearyweareone said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480161) said:
Just sign some one please

No, sign the right person

I don’t think any of the right people are off contract.

Maybe we have to get players breaking contracts like other club's do.
You know, what's a contract worth these days.

Not my style but.....
 
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1479925) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1477829) said:
I want Harry Triguboff to buy the WT franchise and remove the existing Board, Chairperson and CEO. C'mon Harry, if you really love the Tigers, the time is NOW. Your mate Sheensy is back. Do it!!

OK, it wasn't really a signing suggestion. Sorry.

He wanted to and they wouldn't sell.

That's right, Wests Ashfield have said the club is not for sale and why would they sell? The club makes a profit, unlike many NRL clubs and Ashfields core business, apart from the leagues club, is Rugby League. A change of ownership won;t bring more players, we still have to operate within the salary cap.
 
@swooping-magpie said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480422) said:
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1479925) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1477829) said:
I want Harry Triguboff to buy the WT franchise and remove the existing Board, Chairperson and CEO. C'mon Harry, if you really love the Tigers, the time is NOW. Your mate Sheensy is back. Do it!!

OK, it wasn't really a signing suggestion. Sorry.

He wanted to and they wouldn't sell.

That's right, Wests Ashfield have said the club is not for sale and why would they sell? The club makes a profit, unlike many NRL clubs and Ashfields core business, apart from the leagues club, is Rugby League. A change of ownership won;t bring more players, we still have to operate within the salary cap.

Harry could sponsor the club and perhaps introduce incoming players to property development after retiring of course.

We'd soon discover how many closet WT fans there are players I'd imagine.
 
@swooping-magpie said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480422) said:
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1479925) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1477829) said:
I want Harry Triguboff to buy the WT franchise and remove the existing Board, Chairperson and CEO. C'mon Harry, if you really love the Tigers, the time is NOW. Your mate Sheensy is back. Do it!!

OK, it wasn't really a signing suggestion. Sorry.

He wanted to and they wouldn't sell.

That's right, Wests Ashfield have said the club is not for sale and why would they sell? The club makes a profit, unlike many NRL clubs and Ashfields core business, apart from the leagues club, is Rugby League. A change of ownership won;t bring more players, we still have to operate within the salary cap.

Ashfield making a profit has nothing to do with the rugby league team … it’s all pokies.
 
All this discussion is useless if the players have no heart and continues to give up in games.

This is a culture issue.
 
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480474) said:
All this discussion is useless if the players have no heart and continues to give up in games.

This is a culture issue.

Maguire is the leader and should be driving cultural change. I guess it's only been 3 years and according to many the culture is still garbage. What does that tell you?
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480475) said:
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480474) said:
All this discussion is useless if the players have no heart and continues to give up in games.

This is a culture issue.

Maguire is the leader and should be driving cultural change. I guess it's only been 3 years and according to many the culture is still garbage. What does that tell you?

It tells you it takes a long time to fix a rotten culture and you need the support of everyone to do it.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480475) said:
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480474) said:
All this discussion is useless if the players have no heart and continues to give up in games.

This is a culture issue.

Maguire is the leader and should be driving cultural change. I guess it's only been 3 years and according to many the culture is still garbage. What does that tell you?

Given the 7 years before that were largely the same with better players, I’d say it’s not a coaching problem.

Let’s not forget Maguire walked into the club with a decimated salary cap situation so he had limited movement in terms of moving players on.
 
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480368) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480362) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480352) said:
@krammy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480346) said:
@garryowen said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480293) said:
@don_kershane said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480103) said:
"but in its eagerness to showcase its southern team, it has created a same-old same-old competition, whereas the AFL, which has a functional salary cap, this weekend puts on a grand final to capture the imagination between a team that has not won since 1964 and a team that has won once since 1954."
Knox again.

What chance this happening in the NRL in the next 10 years?

I don't think there'll be changes at the top for a while. The inequality is getting worse, and the NRL seems happy with it.

The AFL has a draft. The NRL has a salary cap that is not realistic as we all know. Underperforming teams pay overs for players and the traditional 'super' teams pay unders. It makes it especially difficult for teams like Wests to compete. It is not a level playing field.

Why is it up to the NRL to make it a level playing field? Why handicap the good clubs?

Then scrap the cap. Don’t pretend like they’re trying to level it up.

Wouldn't bother me. They set a cap to help out losers like us, what more can they do?

The cap was not established to level the comp. It was simply to stop clubs going broke and was specifically brought in after Canberra nearly spent there way into extinction. The draft was supposed to level the comp.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480493) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480368) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480362) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480352) said:
@krammy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480346) said:
@garryowen said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480293) said:
@don_kershane said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480103) said:
"but in its eagerness to showcase its southern team, it has created a same-old same-old competition, whereas the AFL, which has a functional salary cap, this weekend puts on a grand final to capture the imagination between a team that has not won since 1964 and a team that has won once since 1954."
Knox again.

What chance this happening in the NRL in the next 10 years?

I don't think there'll be changes at the top for a while. The inequality is getting worse, and the NRL seems happy with it.

The AFL has a draft. The NRL has a salary cap that is not realistic as we all know. Underperforming teams pay overs for players and the traditional 'super' teams pay unders. It makes it especially difficult for teams like Wests to compete. It is not a level playing field.

Why is it up to the NRL to make it a level playing field? Why handicap the good clubs?

Then scrap the cap. Don’t pretend like they’re trying to level it up.

Wouldn't bother me. They set a cap to help out losers like us, what more can they do?

The cap was not established to level the comp. It was simply to stop clubs going broke and was specifically brought in after Canberra nearly spent there way into extinction. The draft was supposed to level the comp.

Bring in a draft.

#NRLDraft
 
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480352) said:
@krammy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480346) said:
@garryowen said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480293) said:
@don_kershane said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480103) said:
"but in its eagerness to showcase its southern team, it has created a same-old same-old competition, whereas the AFL, which has a functional salary cap, this weekend puts on a grand final to capture the imagination between a team that has not won since 1964 and a team that has won once since 1954."
Knox again.

What chance this happening in the NRL in the next 10 years?

I don't think there'll be changes at the top for a while. The inequality is getting worse, and the NRL seems happy with it.

The AFL has a draft. The NRL has a salary cap that is not realistic as we all know. Underperforming teams pay overs for players and the traditional 'super' teams pay unders. It makes it especially difficult for teams like Wests to compete. It is not a level playing field.

Why is it up to the NRL to make it a level playing field? Why handicap the good clubs?

I have heard this argument for close to 20 years. In principle your right but in reality it doesn’t work. While teams at the bottom are getting 40% less bang for their buck and their ability to attract the necessary talent is greatly reduced, they are going to struggle. Of course you can go down the junior pathways road, but your talent you produce is highly likely to be snapped up once they make the grade.
 
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480498) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480493) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480368) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480362) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480352) said:
@krammy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480346) said:
@garryowen said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480293) said:
@don_kershane said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480103) said:
"but in its eagerness to showcase its southern team, it has created a same-old same-old competition, whereas the AFL, which has a functional salary cap, this weekend puts on a grand final to capture the imagination between a team that has not won since 1964 and a team that has won once since 1954."
Knox again.

What chance this happening in the NRL in the next 10 years?

I don't think there'll be changes at the top for a while. The inequality is getting worse, and the NRL seems happy with it.

The AFL has a draft. The NRL has a salary cap that is not realistic as we all know. Underperforming teams pay overs for players and the traditional 'super' teams pay unders. It makes it especially difficult for teams like Wests to compete. It is not a level playing field.

Why is it up to the NRL to make it a level playing field? Why handicap the good clubs?

Then scrap the cap. Don’t pretend like they’re trying to level it up.

Wouldn't bother me. They set a cap to help out losers like us, what more can they do?

The cap was not established to level the comp. It was simply to stop clubs going broke and was specifically brought in after Canberra nearly spent there way into extinction. The draft was supposed to level the comp.

Bring in a draft.

#NRLDraft

No thank you
 
@supercoach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480509) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480352) said:
@krammy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480346) said:
@garryowen said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480293) said:
@don_kershane said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480103) said:
"but in its eagerness to showcase its southern team, it has created a same-old same-old competition, whereas the AFL, which has a functional salary cap, this weekend puts on a grand final to capture the imagination between a team that has not won since 1964 and a team that has won once since 1954."
Knox again.

What chance this happening in the NRL in the next 10 years?

I don't think there'll be changes at the top for a while. The inequality is getting worse, and the NRL seems happy with it.

The AFL has a draft. The NRL has a salary cap that is not realistic as we all know. Underperforming teams pay overs for players and the traditional 'super' teams pay unders. It makes it especially difficult for teams like Wests to compete. It is not a level playing field.

Why is it up to the NRL to make it a level playing field? Why handicap the good clubs?

I have heard this argument for close to 20 years. In principle your right but in reality it doesn’t work. While teams at the bottom are getting 40% less bang for their buck and their ability to attract the necessary talent is greatly reduced, they are going to struggle. Of course you can go down the junior pathways road, but your talent you produce is highly likely to be snapped up once they make the grade.

I often wonder about the worth on building junior pathways.
Yes, It's great for the game in general, but how often does it pay off for the few clubs that put all the effort in?
Of course Penrith is a good current example ... but, really, what major successes have they got from years and years of investment?
And then look at the two most successful clubs of the modern era and their juniors.
 
@cktiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480518) said:
@supercoach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480509) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480352) said:
@krammy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480346) said:
@garryowen said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480293) said:
@don_kershane said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480103) said:
"but in its eagerness to showcase its southern team, it has created a same-old same-old competition, whereas the AFL, which has a functional salary cap, this weekend puts on a grand final to capture the imagination between a team that has not won since 1964 and a team that has won once since 1954."
Knox again.

What chance this happening in the NRL in the next 10 years?

I don't think there'll be changes at the top for a while. The inequality is getting worse, and the NRL seems happy with it.

The AFL has a draft. The NRL has a salary cap that is not realistic as we all know. Underperforming teams pay overs for players and the traditional 'super' teams pay unders. It makes it especially difficult for teams like Wests to compete. It is not a level playing field.

Why is it up to the NRL to make it a level playing field? Why handicap the good clubs?

I have heard this argument for close to 20 years. In principle your right but in reality it doesn’t work. While teams at the bottom are getting 40% less bang for their buck and their ability to attract the necessary talent is greatly reduced, they are going to struggle. Of course you can go down the junior pathways road, but your talent you produce is highly likely to be snapped up once they make the grade.

I often wonder about the worth on building junior pathways.
Yes, It's great for the game in general, but how often does it pay off for the few clubs that put all the effort in?
Of course Penrith is a good current example ... but, really, what major successes have they got from years and years of investment?
And then look at the two most successful clubs of the modern era and their juniors.

You actually want to be attracting the best juniors from around the country and developing them into NRL players, not soley relying local juniors.
 
@supercoach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480509) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480352) said:
@krammy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480346) said:
@garryowen said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480293) said:
@don_kershane said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480103) said:
"but in its eagerness to showcase its southern team, it has created a same-old same-old competition, whereas the AFL, which has a functional salary cap, this weekend puts on a grand final to capture the imagination between a team that has not won since 1964 and a team that has won once since 1954."
Knox again.

What chance this happening in the NRL in the next 10 years?

I don't think there'll be changes at the top for a while. The inequality is getting worse, and the NRL seems happy with it.

The AFL has a draft. The NRL has a salary cap that is not realistic as we all know. Underperforming teams pay overs for players and the traditional 'super' teams pay unders. It makes it especially difficult for teams like Wests to compete. It is not a level playing field.

Why is it up to the NRL to make it a level playing field? Why handicap the good clubs?

I have heard this argument for close to 20 years. In principle your right but in reality it doesn’t work. While teams at the bottom are getting 40% less bang for their buck and their ability to attract the necessary talent is greatly reduced, they are going to struggle. Of course you can go down the junior pathways road, but your talent you produce is highly likely to be snapped up once they make the grade.

Clubs turned out around like Souths though without the NRL handicapping the good clubs more.
 
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480524) said:
@supercoach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480509) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480352) said:
@krammy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480346) said:
@garryowen said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480293) said:
@don_kershane said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1480103) said:
"but in its eagerness to showcase its southern team, it has created a same-old same-old competition, whereas the AFL, which has a functional salary cap, this weekend puts on a grand final to capture the imagination between a team that has not won since 1964 and a team that has won once since 1954."
Knox again.

What chance this happening in the NRL in the next 10 years?

I don't think there'll be changes at the top for a while. The inequality is getting worse, and the NRL seems happy with it.

The AFL has a draft. The NRL has a salary cap that is not realistic as we all know. Underperforming teams pay overs for players and the traditional 'super' teams pay unders. It makes it especially difficult for teams like Wests to compete. It is not a level playing field.

Why is it up to the NRL to make it a level playing field? Why handicap the good clubs?

I have heard this argument for close to 20 years. In principle your right but in reality it doesn’t work. While teams at the bottom are getting 40% less bang for their buck and their ability to attract the necessary talent is greatly reduced, they are going to struggle. Of course you can go down the junior pathways road, but your talent you produce is highly likely to be snapped up once they make the grade.

Clubs turned out around like Souths though without the NRL handicapping the good clubs more.

Money and influence.
 
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