Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493990) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493987) said:
@supercoach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493968) said:
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493935) said:
@nrlsurvivor said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493669) said:
Now it gets interesting. Api K an upgrade on Hodgson at 9 ability wise but probably blocks Simpkin’s path and not a leader like Hodgson.

Api isn’t a spring chicken.
But he is fitter than Hodgson.

Problem though is he isn’t much of a ball player and my thoughts are we are looking at Hodgson for this reason firstly.

Pros and cons with both…API offers more in speed,health and age.
Hogo offers more in leadership, direction and a kicking game, but fitness and age are a issue

Hobo a leader? Is that because of his age he gets that tag? What sort of leader spits the doomy and refuses to be captain any more?

One that has an issue (and rightfully so) with his coach.

One that stands by his soldiers till the end.
(Seen with support shown towards Scott and Williams)

What was the issue?
 
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493993) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493990) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493987) said:
@supercoach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493968) said:
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493935) said:
@nrlsurvivor said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493669) said:
Now it gets interesting. Api K an upgrade on Hodgson at 9 ability wise but probably blocks Simpkin’s path and not a leader like Hodgson.

Api isn’t a spring chicken.
But he is fitter than Hodgson.

Problem though is he isn’t much of a ball player and my thoughts are we are looking at Hodgson for this reason firstly.

Pros and cons with both…API offers more in speed,health and age.
Hogo offers more in leadership, direction and a kicking game, but fitness and age are a issue

Hobo a leader? Is that because of his age he gets that tag? What sort of leader spits the doomy and refuses to be captain any more?

One that has an issue (and rightfully so) with his coach.

One that stands by his soldiers till the end.
(Seen with support shown towards Scott and Williams)

What was the issue?

Mate, it's Ricky Stuart....

What isn't the issue ?
Guys personality translates pretty clearly through the TV.
 
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493994) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493993) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493990) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493987) said:
@supercoach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493968) said:
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493935) said:
@nrlsurvivor said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493669) said:
Now it gets interesting. Api K an upgrade on Hodgson at 9 ability wise but probably blocks Simpkin’s path and not a leader like Hodgson.

Api isn’t a spring chicken.
But he is fitter than Hodgson.

Problem though is he isn’t much of a ball player and my thoughts are we are looking at Hodgson for this reason firstly.

Pros and cons with both…API offers more in speed,health and age.
Hogo offers more in leadership, direction and a kicking game, but fitness and age are a issue

Hobo a leader? Is that because of his age he gets that tag? What sort of leader spits the doomy and refuses to be captain any more?

One that has an issue (and rightfully so) with his coach.

One that stands by his soldiers till the end.
(Seen with support shown towards Scott and Williams)

What was the issue?

Mate, it's Ricky Stuart....

What isn't the issue ?
Guys personality translates pretty clearly through the TV.

Haha, the sort of thing that made him a great player?
The players don’t need to like the coach they just need to do what he asks of them and cut out the dumb obedience.
Wests Tigers has had its share of those players.
 
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493996) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493994) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493993) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493990) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493987) said:
@supercoach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493968) said:
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493935) said:
@nrlsurvivor said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493669) said:
Now it gets interesting. Api K an upgrade on Hodgson at 9 ability wise but probably blocks Simpkin’s path and not a leader like Hodgson.

Api isn’t a spring chicken.
But he is fitter than Hodgson.

Problem though is he isn’t much of a ball player and my thoughts are we are looking at Hodgson for this reason firstly.

Pros and cons with both…API offers more in speed,health and age.
Hogo offers more in leadership, direction and a kicking game, but fitness and age are a issue

Hobo a leader? Is that because of his age he gets that tag? What sort of leader spits the doomy and refuses to be captain any more?

One that has an issue (and rightfully so) with his coach.

One that stands by his soldiers till the end.
(Seen with support shown towards Scott and Williams)

What was the issue?

Mate, it's Ricky Stuart....

What isn't the issue ?
Guys personality translates pretty clearly through the TV.

Haha, the sort of thing that made him a great player?
The players don’t need to like the coach they just need to do what he asks of them and cut out the dumb obedience.
Wests Tigers has had its share of those players.

I'm not a fan of Ricky Stuart.

(Some) our players didn't like our coach, look how well they went.

Gotta get everyone on the same page.
Look how the players play for their coach at clubs like Roosters and the storm.
 
@tiger-town1979 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493999) said:
Top 3 worst Signings for West’s Tigers history….
1)Braith Anasta
2)Adam Blair
3)Matt Ballin

When taking into account money, Reynolds and Packer are our worst imo.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1494001) said:
@tiger-town1979 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493999) said:
Top 3 worst Signings for West’s Tigers history….
1)Braith Anasta
2)Adam Blair
3)Matt Ballin

When taking into account money, Reynolds and Packer are our worst imo.

Top 5 sorted then
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1494001) said:
@tiger-town1979 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493999) said:
Top 3 worst Signings for West’s Tigers history….
1)Braith Anasta
2)Adam Blair
3)Matt Ballin

When taking into account money, Reynolds and Packer are our worst imo.

Id like to nominate Tamou
 
@tiger-town1979 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493999) said:
Top 3 worst Signings for West’s Tigers history….
1)Braith Anasta
2)Adam Blair
3)Matt Ballin

I think to be fair to Balin, he never actually played a game and pretty sure his contract was paid 90% by Manly.
 
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1494003) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1494001) said:
@tiger-town1979 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493999) said:
Top 3 worst Signings for West’s Tigers history….
1)Braith Anasta
2)Adam Blair
3)Matt Ballin

When taking into account money, Reynolds and Packer are our worst imo.

Id like to nominate Tamou

Definitely. Let’s not forget Nofo’s re-signing
 
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1494004) said:
@tiger-town1979 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493999) said:
Top 3 worst Signings for West’s Tigers history….
1)Braith Anasta
2)Adam Blair
3)Matt Ballin

I think to be fair to Balin, he never actually played a game and pretty sure his contract was paid 90% by Manly.


Officially played 3 games over 2 years for tigers. 2 in 2016 and 1 in 2017 where he lasted only minutes after being knocked out …. Retiring later that year. If we paid 10% that’s still too much.
 
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1494003) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1494001) said:
@tiger-town1979 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493999) said:
Top 3 worst Signings for West’s Tigers history….
1)Braith Anasta
2)Adam Blair
3)Matt Ballin

When taking into account money, Reynolds and Packer are our worst imo.

Id like to nominate Tamou

For the number of games played I’d like to nominate Brooks
 
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493997) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493996) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493994) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493993) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493990) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493987) said:
@supercoach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493968) said:
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493935) said:
@nrlsurvivor said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493669) said:
Now it gets interesting. Api K an upgrade on Hodgson at 9 ability wise but probably blocks Simpkin’s path and not a leader like Hodgson.

Api isn’t a spring chicken.
But he is fitter than Hodgson.

Problem though is he isn’t much of a ball player and my thoughts are we are looking at Hodgson for this reason firstly.

Pros and cons with both…API offers more in speed,health and age.
Hogo offers more in leadership, direction and a kicking game, but fitness and age are a issue

Hobo a leader? Is that because of his age he gets that tag? What sort of leader spits the doomy and refuses to be captain any more?

One that has an issue (and rightfully so) with his coach.

One that stands by his soldiers till the end.
(Seen with support shown towards Scott and Williams)

What was the issue?

Mate, it's Ricky Stuart....

What isn't the issue ?
Guys personality translates pretty clearly through the TV.

Haha, the sort of thing that made him a great player?
The players don’t need to like the coach they just need to do what he asks of them and cut out the dumb obedience.
Wests Tigers has had its share of those players.

I'm not a fan of Ricky Stuart.

(Some) our players didn't like our coach, look how well they went.

Gotta get everyone on the same page.
Look how the players play for their coach at clubs like Roosters and the storm.

I agree with you that to get the best from all players it helps if they have a bond with each other and the coach.
Getting back to my point though, if a player doesn’t like the coach and as a result outwardly shows signs of dumb obedience (going through the motions , following coaches instructions, in a way that causes failure) then that player is not a leader. And WT should not be paying a premium for “Leadership value”. Place a valuation on his leadership after the first season and pay him accordingly in the second season.
 
I'm hoping Adam Douihei will , not the leader we wanted but the leader we deserve.

🔥👑
 
@tiger-town1979 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1494008) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1494004) said:
@tiger-town1979 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493999) said:
Top 3 worst Signings for West’s Tigers history….
1)Braith Anasta
2)Adam Blair
3)Matt Ballin

I think to be fair to Balin, he never actually played a game and pretty sure his contract was paid 90% by Manly.


Officially played 3 games over 2 years for tigers. 2 in 2016 and 1 in 2017 where he lasted only minutes after being knocked out …. Retiring later that year. If we paid 10% that’s still too much.

I think his signing was stupid, but he was a mate of the coach, and the coach was was waging war with our current hooker. All pretty childish stuff.
 
@tigerman-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493958) said:
I saw Pascoe today at Big W Macquarie Centre.
Asked him straight out if Hodgson is coming and he basically said we are waiting for Canberra to come to the party salary wise.
I said “but they don’t want him hey and he doesn’t wanna be there. So we have the upper hand”. He replied “yeah”.
BTW I didn’t realise he is quite tall

You sir are a legend.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493867) said:
@bradexl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493761) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493709) said:
@boonboon said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493699) said:
Prefer hodgspn over Api

Why mate .....??

Experience, toughness, ability to read a game, leadership...

Ricky would be insane to let him go then .....???

Have you ever heard of a personality clash???
 
Looks like we can rule out Angus Campbell-Gillard as a signing option.
![352AB4C7-1001-4C5C-8A3A-D5726D74588D.jpeg](/assets/uploads/files/1634448534578-352ab4c7-1001-4c5c-8a3a-d5726d74588d.jpeg)
 
@tiger-town1979 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1494008) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1494004) said:
@tiger-town1979 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1493999) said:
Top 3 worst Signings for West’s Tigers history….
1)Braith Anasta
2)Adam Blair
3)Matt Ballin

I think to be fair to Balin, he never actually played a game and pretty sure his contract was paid 90% by Manly.


Officially played 3 games over 2 years for tigers. 2 in 2016 and 1 in 2017 where he lasted only minutes after being knocked out …. Retiring later that year. If we paid 10% that’s still too much.

Josh Reynolds $2.1m over 3 years

21 games (a number of these off the bench) and 3 tries

Depends on how you want to do the sums = $100k a game or $700k a try

btw before anyone jumps on me about this post, I'm not really being serious about this comment
 

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