Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@speed2burn said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522043) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522040) said:
Brooks is a shit defender always has been its nothing new teams pin point him and liddle cause everyone knows they need help tackling

Yep … that brilliant analysis sure showed us

As good as blaming everyone else.
 
@cktiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522045) said:
@speed2burn said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522043) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522040) said:
Brooks is a shit defender always has been its nothing new teams pin point him and liddle cause everyone knows they need help tackling

Yep … that brilliant analysis sure showed us

As good as blaming everyone else.

Anyone with eyes and a TV can see our defense is hot garbage, so yeah blaming the whole team sounds pretty normal to me
 
Our whole defensive line sucks.... coaching staff to blame for that

When they make the same mistakes positionally every single week and nothing is ever done off the field to fix it (besides a new defensive structure that's even worse) that means the coaches had no clue

Fingers crossed Cayless can do something. Our blokes get confused when someone runs a simple bloke at them. Literally just follow the roosters system of defence
 
@speed2burn said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522047) said:
@cktiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522045) said:
@speed2burn said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522043) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522040) said:
Brooks is a shit defender always has been its nothing new teams pin point him and liddle cause everyone knows they need help tackling

Yep … that brilliant analysis sure showed us

As good as blaming everyone else.

Anyone with eyes and a TV can see our defense is hot garbage, so yeah blaming the whole team sounds pretty normal to me

Let's face the facts. The opposition goes up the middle - they bust us open, they go out wide - they create overlaps and leave us stranded, they kick to our line - they are likely to force a drop our or score... Can't just blame Luke Brooks.
 
@speed2burn said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522047) said:
@cktiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522045) said:
@speed2burn said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522043) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522040) said:
Brooks is a shit defender always has been its nothing new teams pin point him and liddle cause everyone knows they need help tackling

Yep … that brilliant analysis sure showed us

As good as blaming everyone else.

Anyone with eyes and a TV can see our defense is hot garbage, so yeah blaming the whole team sounds pretty normal to me

Yeah, but people blaming the whole team for Brooks ineptitude is taking it too far.
 
@tiedye said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521982) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521981) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521695) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521644) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521401) said:
@hank37w said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521400) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521281) said:
We get rid of Hartigan and we start making moves.

What a surprise.

Can't believe that Hartigan was heralded as the Messiah when he came here from the Chooks, now he's just regarded as chicken shit.

Personally, I don't know what to believe but his reputation on this forum has certainly taken a nose dive since he has left the building.

His fans bailed during Kul's mod "kulling"

?

Well hartigan did go on their podcast.

haha but tbf they know the bloke so it makes sense they have an opinion of him

I've met Adam a few times, seemed a good knowledgeable guy. Whatever Hartigan's reputation is right now, it's almost certainly not accurate to the actual ability (or lack of) of the man himself. I have literally zero knowledge of what Adam Hartigan was doing behind the scenes, but he's no dummy that's for sure.

I think it's also a mistake to equate Hartigan's employment, and then not, as being some magic trigger for signings. Whilst I think the Summer time signings have been good, I wasn't in doubt that we'd see action over this period same as we have seen for several seasons now. Nobody knows for sure if Hartigan had something or anything to do with those signings, nor do we even know if some new person like Sheens got the chequebook out to make some recruitment happen.

And most crucially - we are yet to see if these decisions pan out. I've been hopeful for historical signings that turn out to be absolute custard. Hartigan was, after all, the guy overseeing the signatures of Doueihi, Stefano, Luciano, Laurie, Blore - our best up young players and likely the core of our future side.

I think it's far more complicated than people like to boil down into simply binaries of good/bad.


He was pretty trash, tbf. No evidence, besides him failing miserably at sealing the deal often.

Latrell was never coming, the others wanted too much coin and I was happy not to sign them in overs. Our salary cap is in good order now because of it!

(There did seem to be some issues within the junior ranks)
 
@tiger-tragic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522048) said:
@tiedye said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522000) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521991) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521981) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521695) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521644) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521401) said:
@hank37w said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521400) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521281) said:
We get rid of Hartigan and we start making moves.

What a surprise.

Can't believe that Hartigan was heralded as the Messiah when he came here from the Chooks, now he's just regarded as chicken shit.

Personally, I don't know what to believe but his reputation on this forum has certainly taken a nose dive since he has left the building.

His fans bailed during Kul's mod "kulling"

?

Well hartigan did go on their podcast.

haha but tbf they know the bloke so it makes sense they have an opinion of him

I've met Adam a few times, seemed a good knowledgeable guy. Whatever Hartigan's reputation is right now, it's almost certainly not accurate to the actual ability (or lack of) of the man himself. I have literally zero knowledge of what Adam Hartigan was doing behind the scenes, but he's no dummy that's for sure.

I think it's also a mistake to equate Hartigan's employment, and then not, as being some magic trigger for signings. Whilst I think the Summer time signings have been good, I wasn't in doubt that we'd see action over this period same as we have seen for several seasons now. Nobody knows for sure if Hartigan had something or anything to do with those signings, nor do we even know if some new person like Sheens got the chequebook out to make some recruitment happen.

And most crucially - we are yet to see if these decisions pan out. I've been hopeful for historical signings that turn out to be absolute custard. Hartigan was, after all, the guy overseeing the signatures of Doueihi, Stefano, Luciano, Laurie, Blore - our best up young players and likely the core of our future side.

I think it's far more complicated than people like to boil down into simply binaries of good/bad.

It must annoy you @jirskyr to offer such a reasoned and balanced and informative post like yours for someone to then offer a short, stupid, ignorant and blinkered response such as that by @TieDye.

It annoys me, on your behalf. And, I wouldn't have had the grace to reply as you did. Don't be deterred though. We need more like you and less of him/her.


Identify as they/them. You intolerant little man

Little?? I wish.


Hahaha, very well played!
 
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521999) said:
@the-warrior said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521996) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521965) said:
@the-warrior said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521917) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521909) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521900) said:
Might find himself as a life long God of State Cup.

The problem is when I've seen him he hasn't been that good in State Cup. If he kills it in State Cup then I think he is a good chance of killing it in first grade.

He might come good. I wouldn't write him off yet but to me he should kill it in State Cup prior to being considered a valid first grade option.

Get rid of Brooks. Hasting and Douhei are the future. If Douhei is out, replace him with a good defender.

Doueihi might not even have a future if he does his knee one more time.

Brooks is lucky to be even being mentioned. I swear to God the Freemasons must be pulling strings for him the way he has made a career out of doing sweet FA.

What are you gonna do though?

Fire him and get someone else.

How come in any job you can get fired for non performance yet if you play league you always seem to get paid out? The only way they tear up your contract is if you do something really bad off the field. It’s ridiculous.
 
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522046) said:
Brooks is also in the Top 10 for missed tackles in the NRL last year coming in at 6 Drinkwater is 1 with 92

Our defence overall is ordinary. Do not defend as a team, a lot of lazy players and arm grabbers.

Brooks has often been stuck defending next to Garner or Luci.

The lack of effort by some is a key reason teams are able to isolate players like AD, Brooks & Liddle so often
 
@the-warrior said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522063) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521999) said:
@the-warrior said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521996) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521965) said:
@the-warrior said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521917) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521909) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521900) said:
Might find himself as a life long God of State Cup.

The problem is when I've seen him he hasn't been that good in State Cup. If he kills it in State Cup then I think he is a good chance of killing it in first grade.

He might come good. I wouldn't write him off yet but to me he should kill it in State Cup prior to being considered a valid first grade option.

Get rid of Brooks. Hasting and Douhei are the future. If Douhei is out, replace him with a good defender.

Doueihi might not even have a future if he does his knee one more time.

Brooks is lucky to be even being mentioned. I swear to God the Freemasons must be pulling strings for him the way he has made a career out of doing sweet FA.

What are you gonna do though?

Fire him and get someone else.

How come in any job you can get fired for non performance yet if you play league you always seem to get paid out? The only way they tear up your contract is if you do something really bad off the field. It’s ridiculous.

It’s only your opinion that it is non-performance. The club has made it clear time and time again that he is in their long term plans, yet his detractors live in a constant state of “any day now”.
 
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522065) said:
@the-warrior said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522063) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521999) said:
@the-warrior said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521996) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521965) said:
@the-warrior said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521917) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521909) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1521900) said:
Might find himself as a life long God of State Cup.

The problem is when I've seen him he hasn't been that good in State Cup. If he kills it in State Cup then I think he is a good chance of killing it in first grade.

He might come good. I wouldn't write him off yet but to me he should kill it in State Cup prior to being considered a valid first grade option.

Get rid of Brooks. Hasting and Douhei are the future. If Douhei is out, replace him with a good defender.

Doueihi might not even have a future if he does his knee one more time.

Brooks is lucky to be even being mentioned. I swear to God the Freemasons must be pulling strings for him the way he has made a career out of doing sweet FA.

What are you gonna do though?

Fire him and get someone else.

How come in any job you can get fired for non performance yet if you play league you always seem to get paid out? The only way they tear up your contract is if you do something really bad off the field. It’s ridiculous.

It’s only your opinion that it is non-performance. The club has made it clear time and time again that he is in their long term plans, yet his detractors live in a constant state of “any day now”.

It's not cut and dry is it. Madge has dropped him as well. I think the issue has been a lack of options to replace him. I also think he is a decent first grade player in that he makes a lot of first grade teams.
 
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522046) said:
Brooks is also in the Top 10 for missed tackles in the NRL last year coming in at 6 Drinkwater is 1 with 92

Mate can quote the source please. Cheers
 
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522040) said:
Brooks is a shit defender always has been its nothing new teams pin point him and liddle cause everyone knows they need help tackling

Absolut rubbish.
You got no idea.
 
Hey everyone, we all need to take a deep breath and chillout.
Some of the earlier posts in this topic and in other topics are a bit intense.
Please if your going to respond to someone's post make yours informative and not confronting (a response like 'disagree' is poor IMO)
If your posting to get votes because you think it's a popularity contest then take a good look at yourself. Thumbs up votes should be used as a quick way to say that you agree or like what's written and not to boost your ego.
I would think that most nice people want to express what their thinking without arguing.
Not all comments are going to be factual so be tolerant.
If you know the correct facts then state it in a non threatening or abusive manner. If two people are still at loggerheads with each other then go into the private chat mode and leave the forum for those who want to have some fun.
We are tiger supporters and should show our stripes as they say to be friendlier and supportive.
Our team at times are a shambles, no reason for supporters to be as well.
 
@cobarcats said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522089) said:
Hey everyone, we all need to take a deep breath and chillout.
Some of the earlier posts in this topic and in other topics are a bit intense.
Please if your going to respond to someone's post make yours informative and not confronting (a response like 'disagree' is poor IMO)
If your posting to get votes because you think it's a popularity contest then take a good look at yourself. Thumbs up votes should be used as a quick way to say that you agree or like what's written and not to boost your ego.
I would think that most nice people want to express what their thinking without arguing.
Not all comments are going to be factual so be tolerant.
If you know the correct facts then state it in a non threatening or abusive manner. If two people are still at loggerheads with each other then go into the private chat mode and leave the forum for those who want to have some fun.
We are tiger supporters and should show our stripes as they say to be friendlier and supportive.
Our team at times are a shambles, no reason for supporters to be as well.

Agree to an extent … waddling through the pissing contests of who’s better and who’s not is pretty tiresome. We support the same team at the end of the day yet there always seems to be a divide 😂

I’m itching for some actual footy to talk about
 
@cobarcats said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522089) said:
Hey everyone, we all need to take a deep breath and chillout.
Some of the earlier posts in this topic and in other topics are a bit intense.
Please if your going to respond to someone's post make yours informative and not confronting (a response like 'disagree' is poor IMO)
If your posting to get votes because you think it's a popularity contest then take a good look at yourself. Thumbs up votes should be used as a quick way to say that you agree or like what's written and not to boost your ego.
I would think that most nice people want to express what their thinking without arguing.
Not all comments are going to be factual so be tolerant.
If you know the correct facts then state it in a non threatening or abusive manner. If two people are still at loggerheads with each other then go into the private chat mode and leave the forum for those who want to have some fun.
We are tiger supporters and should show our stripes as they say to be friendlier and supportive.
Our team at times are a shambles, no reason for supporters to be as well.

Agree. Being flippant is pretty disrespectful

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/33178/james-roberts/55?_=1642472527275
 
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