Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522547) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522544) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522528) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522521) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522339) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522337) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522221) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522198) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522196) said:
Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

Man you are salty! Did Brooksy steal your girlfriend or something?

No, she wouldn't leave me, im actually successful. I wouldn't and don't rate any 7 who has played 170 games and is yet to play in a Semi.
We all have different expectations of players....Champ

Well son, be careful because thats 170 more games than you have played! And if you are referring to being successful in dollar terms I doubt you earn $800k a year.........whoops 2 things to worry about now!🙂

??? I don't earn 800k a year.
I'm paid really well though and according to my talent and skill set. I haven't bluffed my employer into over paying me for years like Brooks has. If I get a 20 year function in my honour, I promise I have the nous to run through the banner properly, unlike your boy Brooks. Now jog on Champ

He hasn’t though ! He’s paid at or around someone of his skill set is paid ie. first grade halfbacks . Blake green was getting 550k in the end and he was on one leg when he signed the last couple of contracts . Townsend is another good example of the supply demand issue currently .
Just because you don’t value him at 800k doesn’t mean the market doesn’t . He’s a top 8 half . Sorry that’s just true . Does it mean he’s by definition an “800k” player . And what we all generally know that label to mean ? No it doesn’t . But the guy earns 800k because the market dictates he earns it . I guarantee you , that if the knights could take brooks right now at full freight they would have done it yesterday . Same for the raiders , bulldogs , cowboys , and arguably the sharks. the Rabbits and Warriors are going with the youth and Johnston , for what that’s worth , and the dragons are stuck with hunt , and now Mbye .
Like I said top 8 half .
The real issue isnt brooks or Townsend on 800k , but what the hell have we been doing for the last 20 years with halves development in Australia . How do we not have 100 benji Marshalls running around right now , or Jonathon Thurstons .
But you all see Brooks -800k NOT WORTH IT . Based on what metric ? He’d probably get more if he was on the open market . It’s the same reason houses went through the roof . Lack of supply in key suburbs. Is that shack down the road worth 700k ? Perfect world , no way ! But it is because someone is willing to pay it . It’s our perspective that’s failed to move not the value .

The problem with brooks being on $800k-$850k is that the salary cap is what, a bit over 9 million after it got reduced for this year?

Sure there aren't many elite halfbacks around but we are paying him elite player money and he simply isn't one. Percentage wise he's taking up way more of the cap than he should be, they extended him after one good season and he hasn't played that good since unfortunately

Someone needs to start up a Brooks thread again lol.

He’s not on elite money . This is exactly what I’m trying to say !! The going rate for a first grade half is 800k . That’s what brooks is . The elite halves are on 1-1.2 mil .
The needle has moved . It’s just people havent moved with it .
I’ve said this a billion times but it just gets washed away with “Brooks lovers” or being called happy clappers , the guy is not elite . And I’ve never seen anyone say he was . The guy is average to above average . That equates to a certain percentage of the cap , as you suggested . Now take into account his age , still relatively young , experience, and most importantly the toilet paper level hole in halves market , then you get him on 800k. Is that fair value in 2018 ? No way ! But in 2022 it is fair value. No one wants to hear it though , because it means we are stuck in purgatory of 8th-11th again .
There’s such a shortage we have talked ourselves into Hastings as the saviour lol . Think about that for a second ? 2005 had every team with a player in thier spine who could have played origin at a pinch that year , how many teams can we honestly say that about ? This is the issue . And will remain the issue once brooks is long gone . The way we coach at juniors has to , and I believe is , changing. But that’s going to take time . Until then we have to watch Brooks , Townsend , Get 800k .

Hastings is the new Rangi Chase . His achievements are exactly the same . Would you throw the keys to the car at rangi chase ? Ever ?
 
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522624) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522544) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522528) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522521) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522339) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522337) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522221) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522198) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522196) said:
Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

Man you are salty! Did Brooksy steal your girlfriend or something?

No, she wouldn't leave me, im actually successful. I wouldn't and don't rate any 7 who has played 170 games and is yet to play in a Semi.
We all have different expectations of players....Champ

Well son, be careful because thats 170 more games than you have played! And if you are referring to being successful in dollar terms I doubt you earn $800k a year.........whoops 2 things to worry about now!🙂

??? I don't earn 800k a year.
I'm paid really well though and according to my talent and skill set. I haven't bluffed my employer into over paying me for years like Brooks has. If I get a 20 year function in my honour, I promise I have the nous to run through the banner properly, unlike your boy Brooks. Now jog on Champ

He hasn’t though ! He’s paid at or around someone of his skill set is paid ie. first grade halfbacks . Blake green was getting 550k in the end and he was on one leg when he signed the last couple of contracts . Townsend is another good example of the supply demand issue currently .
Just because you don’t value him at 800k doesn’t mean the market doesn’t . He’s a top 8 half . Sorry that’s just true . Does it mean he’s by definition an “800k” player . And what we all generally know that label to mean ? No it doesn’t . But the guy earns 800k because the market dictates he earns it . I guarantee you , that if the knights could take brooks right now at full freight they would have done it yesterday . Same for the raiders , bulldogs , cowboys , and arguably the sharks. the Rabbits and Warriors are going with the youth and Johnston , for what that’s worth , and the dragons are stuck with hunt , and now Mbye .
Like I said top 8 half .
The real issue isnt brooks or Townsend on 800k , but what the hell have we been doing for the last 20 years with halves development in Australia . How do we not have 100 benji Marshalls running around right now , or Jonathon Thurstons .
But you all see Brooks -800k NOT WORTH IT . Based on what metric ? He’d probably get more if he was on the open market . It’s the same reason houses went through the roof . Lack of supply in key suburbs. Is that shack down the road worth 700k ? Perfect world , no way ! But it is because someone is willing to pay it . It’s our perspective that’s failed to move not the value .

I think the problem everyone has is that he is NOT a Top 8 half. You're wrong.

Source: He's never played a finals game ever. Therefore he's never been in a Top 8 team, therefore he's never been a Top 8 half

Whatever man . Your logic is anything but logical , so I can’t be bothered trying to reason with people like you anymore . He’s worth what he’s on . Source;The 4 teams willing to pay full freight to get him
 
Need to change the name of this thread to Whinging, Whining & Complaining.
This forum has taken such a down turn recently, and hopefully covid related fatigue is the reason people are being so negative, and overall seems this forum is slowly becoming a toxic dumping group with little discussion about footy.
 
@glenji95 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522633) said:
In case you haven’t heard Jesse Bromwich is now going to Dolphins so I reckon 2 things will happen 1. His brother will follow him (possibly) and 2. I expect Melbourne to target Stefano to replace him unless we can resign him before he goes to market

It’s a good signing for the Dolphins. Hopefully we can extend Stefano soon and avoid another contract circus. As everyone’s mentioned before, he’s a keeper.

On another note, is there potential trouble brewing at the Storm? I know they never really go through rebuilding phases they’ve lost some high profile players lately - Addo-Carr, Hynes and Finucane for 2022 and Smith, Kaufusi, and Bromwich all leaving in 2023. Plus there’s talk that Asofa-Solomona might be heading to Japanese Rugby due to the COVID situation.

Most of those guys are rep players too so they won’t be easy to replace.
 
@tigerjunior4 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522642) said:
@glenji95 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522633) said:
In case you haven’t heard Jesse Bromwich is now going to Dolphins so I reckon 2 things will happen 1. His brother will follow him (possibly) and 2. I expect Melbourne to target Stefano to replace him unless we can resign him before he goes to market

It’s a good signing for the Dolphins. Hopefully we can extend Stefano soon and avoid another contract circus. As everyone’s mentioned before, he’s a keeper.

On another note, is there potential trouble brewing at the Storm? I know they never really go through rebuilding phases they’ve lost some high profile players lately - Addo-Carr, Hynes and Finucane for 2022 and Smith, Kaufusi, and Bromwich all leaving in 2023. Plus there’s talk that Asofa-Solomona might be heading to Japanese Rugby due to the COVID situation.

Most of those guys are rep players too so they won’t be easy to replace.

They managed to replace Slater, Cronk and Smith. They’ll be fine.
 
@momo_amp_medo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522606) said:
@tomatosoup912 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522536) said:
Good lord what has happened to this place? I have lurked this forum for almost 20 years and I have never seen it so bad.

Was pretty excited to login and see 12 pages of new chat in the signing suggestions and rumours thread, thinking obviously some juicy transfer goss was underway. Instead it's 12 pages of an egotistical yelling contest about which judgemental perspective is the only possible opinion that anyone is allowed to contemplate. You aren't even debating you just keep stone wall repeating the same rhetoric over and over again.

Maybe we can start a "dick measuring" thread so you can all whip it out and fill these voids that you are so desperately trying to validate through these keyboard screaming matches. At least start a Luke Brooks, Jacob Liddle, Luciano thread and screech in there, let the rest of the forum members actually use the signings thread to get excited about potential squad development.

Yep agree …… sadly that’s the current state of affairs on this site. Most of value posters have baled.

@Cobarcats is a "value poster" imo @momo_amp_medo as many others are.
I'd love to see @mike in particular back posting though, as no-one was more respectful of other feelings, @Cairnstigers for his sense of humour and @cochise for his love of all things Balmain Tigers and Wests Tigers.
 
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522640) said:
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522624) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522544) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522528) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522521) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522339) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522337) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522221) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522198) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522196) said:
Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

Man you are salty! Did Brooksy steal your girlfriend or something?

No, she wouldn't leave me, im actually successful. I wouldn't and don't rate any 7 who has played 170 games and is yet to play in a Semi.
We all have different expectations of players....Champ

Well son, be careful because thats 170 more games than you have played! And if you are referring to being successful in dollar terms I doubt you earn $800k a year.........whoops 2 things to worry about now!🙂

??? I don't earn 800k a year.
I'm paid really well though and according to my talent and skill set. I haven't bluffed my employer into over paying me for years like Brooks has. If I get a 20 year function in my honour, I promise I have the nous to run through the banner properly, unlike your boy Brooks. Now jog on Champ

He hasn’t though ! He’s paid at or around someone of his skill set is paid ie. first grade halfbacks . Blake green was getting 550k in the end and he was on one leg when he signed the last couple of contracts . Townsend is another good example of the supply demand issue currently .
Just because you don’t value him at 800k doesn’t mean the market doesn’t . He’s a top 8 half . Sorry that’s just true . Does it mean he’s by definition an “800k” player . And what we all generally know that label to mean ? No it doesn’t . But the guy earns 800k because the market dictates he earns it . I guarantee you , that if the knights could take brooks right now at full freight they would have done it yesterday . Same for the raiders , bulldogs , cowboys , and arguably the sharks. the Rabbits and Warriors are going with the youth and Johnston , for what that’s worth , and the dragons are stuck with hunt , and now Mbye .
Like I said top 8 half .
The real issue isnt brooks or Townsend on 800k , but what the hell have we been doing for the last 20 years with halves development in Australia . How do we not have 100 benji Marshalls running around right now , or Jonathon Thurstons .
But you all see Brooks -800k NOT WORTH IT . Based on what metric ? He’d probably get more if he was on the open market . It’s the same reason houses went through the roof . Lack of supply in key suburbs. Is that shack down the road worth 700k ? Perfect world , no way ! But it is because someone is willing to pay it . It’s our perspective that’s failed to move not the value .

I think the problem everyone has is that he is NOT a Top 8 half. You're wrong.

Source: He's never played a finals game ever. Therefore he's never been in a Top 8 team, therefore he's never been a Top 8 half

Whatever man . Your logic is anything but logical , so I can’t be bothered trying to reason with people like you anymore . He’s worth what he’s on . Source;The 4 teams willing to pay full freight to get him

What 4 teams were willing to take him at full frieght? That's a complete fallacy
 
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522647) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522640) said:
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522624) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522544) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522528) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522521) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522339) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522337) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522221) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522198) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522196) said:
Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

Man you are salty! Did Brooksy steal your girlfriend or something?

No, she wouldn't leave me, im actually successful. I wouldn't and don't rate any 7 who has played 170 games and is yet to play in a Semi.
We all have different expectations of players....Champ

Well son, be careful because thats 170 more games than you have played! And if you are referring to being successful in dollar terms I doubt you earn $800k a year.........whoops 2 things to worry about now!🙂

??? I don't earn 800k a year.
I'm paid really well though and according to my talent and skill set. I haven't bluffed my employer into over paying me for years like Brooks has. If I get a 20 year function in my honour, I promise I have the nous to run through the banner properly, unlike your boy Brooks. Now jog on Champ

He hasn’t though ! He’s paid at or around someone of his skill set is paid ie. first grade halfbacks . Blake green was getting 550k in the end and he was on one leg when he signed the last couple of contracts . Townsend is another good example of the supply demand issue currently .
Just because you don’t value him at 800k doesn’t mean the market doesn’t . He’s a top 8 half . Sorry that’s just true . Does it mean he’s by definition an “800k” player . And what we all generally know that label to mean ? No it doesn’t . But the guy earns 800k because the market dictates he earns it . I guarantee you , that if the knights could take brooks right now at full freight they would have done it yesterday . Same for the raiders , bulldogs , cowboys , and arguably the sharks. the Rabbits and Warriors are going with the youth and Johnston , for what that’s worth , and the dragons are stuck with hunt , and now Mbye .
Like I said top 8 half .
The real issue isnt brooks or Townsend on 800k , but what the hell have we been doing for the last 20 years with halves development in Australia . How do we not have 100 benji Marshalls running around right now , or Jonathon Thurstons .
But you all see Brooks -800k NOT WORTH IT . Based on what metric ? He’d probably get more if he was on the open market . It’s the same reason houses went through the roof . Lack of supply in key suburbs. Is that shack down the road worth 700k ? Perfect world , no way ! But it is because someone is willing to pay it . It’s our perspective that’s failed to move not the value .

I think the problem everyone has is that he is NOT a Top 8 half. You're wrong.

Source: He's never played a finals game ever. Therefore he's never been in a Top 8 team, therefore he's never been a Top 8 half

Whatever man . Your logic is anything but logical , so I can’t be bothered trying to reason with people like you anymore . He’s worth what he’s on . Source;The 4 teams willing to pay full freight to get him

What 4 teams were willing to take him at full frieght? That's a complete fallacy

Off the top some teams imo that would or should be willing:
Knights: Definitely
Bulldogs: Definitely
Dragons: Likely (Loading up rookies)
Redcliffe: Definitely
Cowboys: would have taken him over Townsend any day
Broncos: to partner Reynolds
 
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522649) said:
If he’s as bad as some of you make out, he’d have been run out of first grade years ago.

In saying that though we’ve never signed anyone since we went with Brooks that can potentially push him out every other 7 we’ve signed in that time was just for depth and the big 6’s we did sign was used to partner him shifting Doueihi to the halves and depending how Hastings goes can potentially push him out if Hastings is killing it but Brooks is still struggling they may not opt to keep him when Doueihi comes back
 
@glenji95 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522633) said:
In case you haven’t heard Jesse Bromwich is now going to Dolphins so I reckon 2 things will happen 1. His brother will follow him (possibly) and 2. I expect Melbourne to target Stefano to replace him unless we can resign him before he goes to market

Jesse Bromwich is 5 years past his best. He'll be good for 20 minutes a game ala Tamou. Kenny Bromwich on the other hand would be a good pick-up for any club though.
 
@fade-to-black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522653) said:
@glenji95 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522633) said:
In case you haven’t heard Jesse Bromwich is now going to Dolphins so I reckon 2 things will happen 1. His brother will follow him (possibly) and 2. I expect Melbourne to target Stefano to replace him unless we can resign him before he goes to market

Jesse Bromwich is 5 years past his best. He'll be good for 20 minutes a game ala Tamou. Kenny Bromwich on the other hand would be a good pick-up for any club though.

Like I said I won’t be surprised if Kenny does follow his brother to the Dolphins but I could be wrong and decide to stay at the Storm I don’t see Kenny leaving the Storm unless he went to the Dolphins now that his brother will be joining them
 
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522644) said:
@tigerjunior4 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522642) said:
@glenji95 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522633) said:
In case you haven’t heard Jesse Bromwich is now going to Dolphins so I reckon 2 things will happen 1. His brother will follow him (possibly) and 2. I expect Melbourne to target Stefano to replace him unless we can resign him before he goes to market

It’s a good signing for the Dolphins. Hopefully we can extend Stefano soon and avoid another contract circus. As everyone’s mentioned before, he’s a keeper.

On another note, is there potential trouble brewing at the Storm? I know they never really go through rebuilding phases they’ve lost some high profile players lately - Addo-Carr, Hynes and Finucane for 2022 and Smith, Kaufusi, and Bromwich all leaving in 2023. Plus there’s talk that Asofa-Solomona might be heading to Japanese Rugby due to the COVID situation.

Most of those guys are rep players too so they won’t be easy to replace.

They managed to replace Slater, Cronk and Smith. They’ll be fine.

I think they lost Slater, Cronk, and Smith gradually which gave them time to unearth and blood some talented players. I think these losses will really test their depth but I’ve been wrong about the Storm in so many occasions so I see your point.
 
@leichardt61 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522648) said:
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522647) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522640) said:
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522624) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522544) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522528) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522521) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522339) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522337) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522221) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522198) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522196) said:
Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

Man you are salty! Did Brooksy steal your girlfriend or something?

No, she wouldn't leave me, im actually successful. I wouldn't and don't rate any 7 who has played 170 games and is yet to play in a Semi.
We all have different expectations of players....Champ

Well son, be careful because thats 170 more games than you have played! And if you are referring to being successful in dollar terms I doubt you earn $800k a year.........whoops 2 things to worry about now!🙂

??? I don't earn 800k a year.
I'm paid really well though and according to my talent and skill set. I haven't bluffed my employer into over paying me for years like Brooks has. If I get a 20 year function in my honour, I promise I have the nous to run through the banner properly, unlike your boy Brooks. Now jog on Champ

He hasn’t though ! He’s paid at or around someone of his skill set is paid ie. first grade halfbacks . Blake green was getting 550k in the end and he was on one leg when he signed the last couple of contracts . Townsend is another good example of the supply demand issue currently .
Just because you don’t value him at 800k doesn’t mean the market doesn’t . He’s a top 8 half . Sorry that’s just true . Does it mean he’s by definition an “800k” player . And what we all generally know that label to mean ? No it doesn’t . But the guy earns 800k because the market dictates he earns it . I guarantee you , that if the knights could take brooks right now at full freight they would have done it yesterday . Same for the raiders , bulldogs , cowboys , and arguably the sharks. the Rabbits and Warriors are going with the youth and Johnston , for what that’s worth , and the dragons are stuck with hunt , and now Mbye .
Like I said top 8 half .
The real issue isnt brooks or Townsend on 800k , but what the hell have we been doing for the last 20 years with halves development in Australia . How do we not have 100 benji Marshalls running around right now , or Jonathon Thurstons .
But you all see Brooks -800k NOT WORTH IT . Based on what metric ? He’d probably get more if he was on the open market . It’s the same reason houses went through the roof . Lack of supply in key suburbs. Is that shack down the road worth 700k ? Perfect world , no way ! But it is because someone is willing to pay it . It’s our perspective that’s failed to move not the value .

I think the problem everyone has is that he is NOT a Top 8 half. You're wrong.

Source: He's never played a finals game ever. Therefore he's never been in a Top 8 team, therefore he's never been a Top 8 half

Whatever man . Your logic is anything but logical , so I can’t be bothered trying to reason with people like you anymore . He’s worth what he’s on . Source;The 4 teams willing to pay full freight to get him

What 4 teams were willing to take him at full frieght? That's a complete fallacy

Off the top some teams imo that would or should be willing:
Knights: Definitely
Bulldogs: Definitely
Dragons: Likely (Loading up rookies)
Redcliffe: Definitely
Cowboys: would have taken him over Townsend any day
Broncos: to partner Reynolds

Like I said a complete waste of time and energy . I have no desire to continue this conversation . Good luck to you sir. Agree to disagree .
 
@leichardt61 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522648) said:
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522647) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522640) said:
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522624) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522544) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522528) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522521) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522339) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522337) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522221) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522198) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522196) said:
Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

Man you are salty! Did Brooksy steal your girlfriend or something?

No, she wouldn't leave me, im actually successful. I wouldn't and don't rate any 7 who has played 170 games and is yet to play in a Semi.
We all have different expectations of players....Champ

Well son, be careful because thats 170 more games than you have played! And if you are referring to being successful in dollar terms I doubt you earn $800k a year.........whoops 2 things to worry about now!🙂

??? I don't earn 800k a year.
I'm paid really well though and according to my talent and skill set. I haven't bluffed my employer into over paying me for years like Brooks has. If I get a 20 year function in my honour, I promise I have the nous to run through the banner properly, unlike your boy Brooks. Now jog on Champ

He hasn’t though ! He’s paid at or around someone of his skill set is paid ie. first grade halfbacks . Blake green was getting 550k in the end and he was on one leg when he signed the last couple of contracts . Townsend is another good example of the supply demand issue currently .
Just because you don’t value him at 800k doesn’t mean the market doesn’t . He’s a top 8 half . Sorry that’s just true . Does it mean he’s by definition an “800k” player . And what we all generally know that label to mean ? No it doesn’t . But the guy earns 800k because the market dictates he earns it . I guarantee you , that if the knights could take brooks right now at full freight they would have done it yesterday . Same for the raiders , bulldogs , cowboys , and arguably the sharks. the Rabbits and Warriors are going with the youth and Johnston , for what that’s worth , and the dragons are stuck with hunt , and now Mbye .
Like I said top 8 half .
The real issue isnt brooks or Townsend on 800k , but what the hell have we been doing for the last 20 years with halves development in Australia . How do we not have 100 benji Marshalls running around right now , or Jonathon Thurstons .
But you all see Brooks -800k NOT WORTH IT . Based on what metric ? He’d probably get more if he was on the open market . It’s the same reason houses went through the roof . Lack of supply in key suburbs. Is that shack down the road worth 700k ? Perfect world , no way ! But it is because someone is willing to pay it . It’s our perspective that’s failed to move not the value .

I think the problem everyone has is that he is NOT a Top 8 half. You're wrong.

Source: He's never played a finals game ever. Therefore he's never been in a Top 8 team, therefore he's never been a Top 8 half

Whatever man . Your logic is anything but logical , so I can’t be bothered trying to reason with people like you anymore . He’s worth what he’s on . Source;The 4 teams willing to pay full freight to get him

What 4 teams were willing to take him at full frieght? That's a complete fallacy

Off the top some teams imo that would or should be willing:
Knights: Definitely
Bulldogs: Definitely
Dragons: Likely (Loading up rookies)
Redcliffe: Definitely
Cowboys: would have taken him over Townsend any day
Broncos: to partner Reynolds

Where did you get this information? The only team who have shown interest are the Knights
 
@momo_amp_medo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522606) said:
@tomatosoup912 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522536) said:
Good lord what has happened to this place? I have lurked this forum for almost 20 years and I have never seen it so bad.

Was pretty excited to login and see 12 pages of new chat in the signing suggestions and rumours thread, thinking obviously some juicy transfer goss was underway. Instead it's 12 pages of an egotistical yelling contest about which judgemental perspective is the only possible opinion that anyone is allowed to contemplate. You aren't even debating you just keep stone wall repeating the same rhetoric over and over again.

Maybe we can start a "dick measuring" thread so you can all whip it out and fill these voids that you are so desperately trying to validate through these keyboard screaming matches. At least start a Luke Brooks, Jacob Liddle, Luciano thread and screech in there, let the rest of the forum members actually use the signings thread to get excited about potential squad development.

Yep agree …… sadly that’s the current state of affairs on this site. Most of value posters have baled.

Down vote
 
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522626) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522625) said:
If only we had some mods who could delete or move the posts about Brooks to another thread...

There’s no thread to move them to since the one about him was locked because everyone had to rant the same opinion day in, day out.

No it was locked because the mods wouldnt let us just talk and felt a responsibility to the club to protect Luke Brooks from online bullying.

Well thats my twisted take anyway.

#punt him
 
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