Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[KingRobbie]

Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

Man you are salty! Did Brooksy steal your girlfriend or something?

No, she wouldn't leave me, im actually successful. I wouldn't and don't rate any 7 who has played 170 games and is yet to play in a Semi.
We all have different expectations of players....Champ

Well son, be careful because thats 170 more games than you have played! And if you are referring to being successful in dollar terms I doubt you earn $800k a year.........whoops 2 things to worry about now!🙂

“Well he’s played more games than you have”

Classic dribble when people can’t think of anything relevant to say :joy: :joy:

 

[hammertime]

I don't understand what dragging the bloke down achieves. I'm sure the players would jump onto the forum every now and then.

Being articulate and coming up with an alternate option, sure. That's fine. But some of the vitriol on here towards him achieves nothing.

The only thing it does do is drag his confidence down (if he were to read it or opinions filter through to media), which only makes our team even worse. To argue that he should be bigger than that also, misses the point. These guys are human beings and can't avoid hits to confidence or attitude.

People who do that really have no view of achieving the best outcome for all of us as a team. It's unfiltered emotional rubbish, only achieving negatives.

Come on mate, he has had 8 bloody years!!!

Yeah, I know mate.

But he's 1 guy and he's had quite a few duds around him. I haven't seen many strong arguments of why he's actually bad or who's better on the market to replace him. The only point that resonates is there's a correlation between him here and us missing finals.

But we all know correlation doesn't equal causation.

The instability in coaching and horrible finances & facilities certainly are a big factor.

But even so, I still stick by my point. Sticking the boot in achieves only negative outcomes, unless that's how he'll thrive... which I doubt.

 

[Tomatosoup912]

Good lord what has happened to this place? I have lurked this forum for almost 20 years and I have never seen it so bad.

Was pretty excited to login and see 12 pages of new chat in the signing suggestions and rumours thread, thinking obviously some juicy transfer goss was underway. Instead it's 12 pages of an egotistical yelling contest about which judgemental perspective is the only possible opinion that anyone is allowed to contemplate. You aren't even debating you just keep stone wall repeating the same rhetoric over and over again.

Maybe we can start a "dick measuring" thread so you can all whip it out and fill these voids that you are so desperately trying to validate through these keyboard screaming matches. At least start a Luke Brooks, Jacob Liddle, Luciano thread and screech in there, let the rest of the forum members actually use the signings thread to get excited about potential squad development.

 

[Champ]

Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

Man you are salty! Did Brooksy steal your girlfriend or something?

No, she wouldn't leave me, im actually successful. I wouldn't and don't rate any 7 who has played 170 games and is yet to play in a Semi.
We all have different expectations of players....Champ

Well son, be careful because thats 170 more games than you have played! And if you are referring to being successful in dollar terms I doubt you earn $800k a year.........whoops 2 things to worry about now!🙂

??? I don't earn 800k a year.
I'm paid really well though and according to my talent and skill set. I haven't bluffed my employer into over paying me for years like Brooks has. If I get a 20 year function in my honour, I promise I have the nous to run through the banner properly, unlike your boy Brooks. Now jog on Champ

Sorry have to disagree. 800k a year is well paid for a skill set. Ask your boss for raise...... it shouldn't take you 20 years to earn 800k. Now work hard .....eternal tiger! 🙂 🙂

 

[Champ]

Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

Man you are salty! Did Brooksy steal your girlfriend or something?

No, she wouldn't leave me, im actually successful. I wouldn't and don't rate any 7 who has played 170 games and is yet to play in a Semi.
We all have different expectations of players....Champ

Well son, be careful because thats 170 more games than you have played! And if you are referring to being successful in dollar terms I doubt you earn $800k a year.........whoops 2 things to worry about now!🙂

“Well he’s played more games than you have”

Classic dribble w :joy: :joy:

But is really classic dribble when people can’t think of anything relevant to say actually
say "Its classic dribble when people can’t think of anything relevant to say".

 

[Eternal Tiger]

Always have, hence the success. Unlike a certain 7. @Champ I'd love to buy you a beer at any of our home grounds in 2022. I'll even bring a straw

 

[Eternal Tiger]

Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

Man you are salty! Did Brooksy steal your girlfriend or something?

No, she wouldn't leave me, im actually successful. I wouldn't and don't rate any 7 who has played 170 games and is yet to play in a Semi.
We all have different expectations of players....Champ

Well son, be careful because thats 170 more games than you have played! And if you are referring to being successful in dollar terms I doubt you earn $800k a year.........whoops 2 things to worry about now!🙂

“Well he’s played more games than you have”

Classic dribble w :joy: :joy:

But is really classic dribble when people can’t think of anything relevant to say actually
say "Its classic dribble when people can’t think of anything relevant to say".

Wow!!! You're clutching

 

[Champ]

Always have, hence the success. Unlike a certain 7. @Champ I'd love to buy you a beer at any of our home grounds in 2022. I'll even bring a straw

Thank you, that sounds fantastic, & i wont think any less of you for drinking out of it! I have many female friends that do the same thing. Good on you mate!

 

[Eternal Tiger]

Always have, hence the success. Unlike a certain 7. @Champ I'd love to buy you a beer at any of our home grounds in 2022. I'll even bring a straw

Thank you, that sounds fantastic, & i wont think any less of you for drinking out of it! I have many female friends that do the same thing. Good on you mate!

I know mate, I sensed you congregated with a large group of females and zero males. You sound fantastic, keep doing you sister

 

[Champ]

Always have, hence the success. Unlike a certain 7. @Champ I'd love to buy you a beer at any of our home grounds in 2022. I'll even bring a straw

Thank you, that sounds fantastic, & i wont think any less of you for drinking out of it! I have many female friends that do the same thing. Good on you mate!

I know mate, I sensed you congregated with a large group of females and zero males. You sound fantastic, keep doing you sister

🙂🙂🙂

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

Man you are salty! Did Brooksy steal your girlfriend or something?

No, she wouldn't leave me, im actually successful. I wouldn't and don't rate any 7 who has played 170 games and is yet to play in a Semi.
We all have different expectations of players....Champ

Well son, be careful because thats 170 more games than you have played! And if you are referring to being successful in dollar terms I doubt you earn $800k a year.........whoops 2 things to worry about now!🙂

??? I don't earn 800k a year.
I'm paid really well though and according to my talent and skill set. I haven't bluffed my employer into over paying me for years like Brooks has. If I get a 20 year function in my honour, I promise I have the nous to run through the banner properly, unlike your boy Brooks. Now jog on Champ

He hasn’t though ! He’s paid at or around someone of his skill set is paid ie. first grade halfbacks . Blake green was getting 550k in the end and he was on one leg when he signed the last couple of contracts . Townsend is another good example of the supply demand issue currently .
Just because you don’t value him at 800k doesn’t mean the market doesn’t . He’s a top 8 half . Sorry that’s just true . Does it mean he’s by definition an “800k” player . And what we all generally know that label to mean ? No it doesn’t . But the guy earns 800k because the market dictates he earns it . I guarantee you , that if the knights could take brooks right now at full freight they would have done it yesterday . Same for the raiders , bulldogs , cowboys , and arguably the sharks. the Rabbits and Warriors are going with the youth and Johnston , for what that’s worth , and the dragons are stuck with hunt , and now Mbye .
Like I said top 8 half .
The real issue isnt brooks or Townsend on 800k , but what the hell have we been doing for the last 20 years with halves development in Australia . How do we not have 100 benji Marshalls running around right now , or Jonathon Thurstons .
But you all see Brooks -800k NOT WORTH IT . Based on what metric ? He’d probably get more if he was on the open market . It’s the same reason houses went through the roof . Lack of supply in key suburbs. Is that shack down the road worth 700k ? Perfect world , no way ! But it is because someone is willing to pay it . It’s our perspective that’s failed to move not the value .

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Moses made semis
Tedesco made semis
Woods made semis

The problem is not all Brooks but our team, we have had a mixture of bad coaching / average players and some bad luck

If Brooks had moved to a Roosters or Parramatta he would have been playing semis too.
I don't see people bagging Douhie he also has not played semis since leaving souths, or Tamou he was grand finalist captain to not making the semis.
We need to keep upgrading our squad we are doing that

 

[JC99]

Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

Man you are salty! Did Brooksy steal your girlfriend or something?

No, she wouldn't leave me, im actually successful. I wouldn't and don't rate any 7 who has played 170 games and is yet to play in a Semi.
We all have different expectations of players....Champ

Well son, be careful because thats 170 more games than you have played! And if you are referring to being successful in dollar terms I doubt you earn $800k a year.........whoops 2 things to worry about now!🙂

??? I don't earn 800k a year.
I'm paid really well though and according to my talent and skill set. I haven't bluffed my employer into over paying me for years like Brooks has. If I get a 20 year function in my honour, I promise I have the nous to run through the banner properly, unlike your boy Brooks. Now jog on Champ

He hasn’t though ! He’s paid at or around someone of his skill set is paid ie. first grade halfbacks . Blake green was getting 550k in the end and he was on one leg when he signed the last couple of contracts . Townsend is another good example of the supply demand issue currently .
Just because you don’t value him at 800k doesn’t mean the market doesn’t . He’s a top 8 half . Sorry that’s just true . Does it mean he’s by definition an “800k” player . And what we all generally know that label to mean ? No it doesn’t . But the guy earns 800k because the market dictates he earns it . I guarantee you , that if the knights could take brooks right now at full freight they would have done it yesterday . Same for the raiders , bulldogs , cowboys , and arguably the sharks. the Rabbits and Warriors are going with the youth and Johnston , for what that’s worth , and the dragons are stuck with hunt , and now Mbye .
Like I said top 8 half .
The real issue isnt brooks or Townsend on 800k , but what the hell have we been doing for the last 20 years with halves development in Australia . How do we not have 100 benji Marshalls running around right now , or Jonathon Thurstons .
But you all see Brooks -800k NOT WORTH IT . Based on what metric ? He’d probably get more if he was on the open market . It’s the same reason houses went through the roof . Lack of supply in key suburbs. Is that shack down the road worth 700k ? Perfect world , no way ! But it is because someone is willing to pay it . It’s our perspective that’s failed to move not the value .

The problem with brooks being on $800k-$850k is that the salary cap is what, a bit over 9 million after it got reduced for this year?

Sure there aren't many elite halfbacks around but we are paying him elite player money and he simply isn't one. Percentage wise he's taking up way more of the cap than he should be, they extended him after one good season and he hasn't played that good since unfortunately

Someone needs to start up a Brooks thread again lol.

 

[Spartan117]

All this is driving me crazy,

We need the season to get here and give us the data to make decisions to move our club forward and win games.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

Man you are salty! Did Brooksy steal your girlfriend or something?

No, she wouldn't leave me, im actually successful. I wouldn't and don't rate any 7 who has played 170 games and is yet to play in a Semi.
We all have different expectations of players....Champ

Well son, be careful because thats 170 more games than you have played! And if you are referring to being successful in dollar terms I doubt you earn $800k a year.........whoops 2 things to worry about now!🙂

??? I don't earn 800k a year.
I'm paid really well though and according to my talent and skill set. I haven't bluffed my employer into over paying me for years like Brooks has. If I get a 20 year function in my honour, I promise I have the nous to run through the banner properly, unlike your boy Brooks. Now jog on Champ

He hasn’t though ! He’s paid at or around someone of his skill set is paid ie. first grade halfbacks . Blake green was getting 550k in the end and he was on one leg when he signed the last couple of contracts . Townsend is another good example of the supply demand issue currently .
Just because you don’t value him at 800k doesn’t mean the market doesn’t . He’s a top 8 half . Sorry that’s just true . Does it mean he’s by definition an “800k” player . And what we all generally know that label to mean ? No it doesn’t . But the guy earns 800k because the market dictates he earns it . I guarantee you , that if the knights could take brooks right now at full freight they would have done it yesterday . Same for the raiders , bulldogs , cowboys , and arguably the sharks. the Rabbits and Warriors are going with the youth and Johnston , for what that’s worth , and the dragons are stuck with hunt , and now Mbye .
Like I said top 8 half .
The real issue isnt brooks or Townsend on 800k , but what the hell have we been doing for the last 20 years with halves development in Australia . How do we not have 100 benji Marshalls running around right now , or Jonathon Thurstons .
But you all see Brooks -800k NOT WORTH IT . Based on what metric ? He’d probably get more if he was on the open market . It’s the same reason houses went through the roof . Lack of supply in key suburbs. Is that shack down the road worth 700k ? Perfect world , no way ! But it is because someone is willing to pay it . It’s our perspective that’s failed to move not the value .

The problem with brooks being on $800k-$850k is that the salary cap is what, a bit over 9 million after it got reduced for this year?

Sure there aren't many elite halfbacks around but we are paying him elite player money and he simply isn't one. Percentage wise he's taking up way more of the cap than he should be, they extended him after one good season and he hasn't played that good since unfortunately

Someone needs to start up a Brooks thread again lol.

Brooks is one of our best no matter how you and your posse of detractors try to spin it.

 

[tony soprano]

Moses made semis
Tedesco made semis
Woods made semis

The problem is not all Brooks but our team, we have had a mixture of bad coaching / average players and some bad luck

If Brooks had moved to a Roosters or Parramatta he would have been playing semis too.
I don't see people bagging Douhie he also has not played semis since leaving souths, or Tamou he was grand finalist captain to not making the semis.
We need to keep upgrading our squad we are doing that

Bingo, Andrew Johns only 7 that could get average team to finals

 

[earl]

All this is driving me crazy,

We need the season to get here and give us the data to make decisions to move our club forward and win games.

We won't know until they are on the field. The halves roles are interesting but so are the centres and edge forwards.

 

[earl]

Moses made semis
Tedesco made semis
Woods made semis

The problem is not all Brooks but our team, we have had a mixture of bad coaching / average players and some bad luck

If Brooks had moved to a Roosters or Parramatta he would have been playing semis too.
I don't see people bagging Douhie he also has not played semis since leaving souths, or Tamou he was grand finalist captain to not making the semis.
We need to keep upgrading our squad we are doing that

Bingo, Andrew Johns only 7 that could get average team to finals

I think he only won 2 premierships as well. Easily the best player I've ever seen. He could do it all.

 

[The Warrior]

Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

Man you are salty! Did Brooksy steal your girlfriend or something?

No, she wouldn't leave me, im actually successful. I wouldn't and don't rate any 7 who has played 170 games and is yet to play in a Semi.
We all have different expectations of players....Champ

Well son, be careful because thats 170 more games than you have played! And if you are referring to being successful in dollar terms I doubt you earn $800k a year.........whoops 2 things to worry about now!🙂

??? I don't earn 800k a year.
I'm paid really well though and according to my talent and skill set. I haven't bluffed my employer into over paying me for years like Brooks has. If I get a 20 year function in my honour, I promise I have the nous to run through the banner properly, unlike your boy Brooks. Now jog on Champ

He hasn’t though ! He’s paid at or around someone of his skill set is paid ie. first grade halfbacks . Blake green was getting 550k in the end and he was on one leg when he signed the last couple of contracts . Townsend is another good example of the supply demand issue currently .
Just because you don’t value him at 800k doesn’t mean the market doesn’t . He’s a top 8 half . Sorry that’s just true . Does it mean he’s by definition an “800k” player . And what we all generally know that label to mean ? No it doesn’t . But the guy earns 800k because the market dictates he earns it . I guarantee you , that if the knights could take brooks right now at full freight they would have done it yesterday . Same for the raiders , bulldogs , cowboys , and arguably the sharks. the Rabbits and Warriors are going with the youth and Johnston , for what that’s worth , and the dragons are stuck with hunt , and now Mbye .
Like I said top 8 half .
The real issue isnt brooks or Townsend on 800k , but what the hell have we been doing for the last 20 years with halves development in Australia . How do we not have 100 benji Marshalls running around right now , or Jonathon Thurstons .
But you all see Brooks -800k NOT WORTH IT . Based on what metric ? He’d probably get more if he was on the open market . It’s the same reason houses went through the roof . Lack of supply in key suburbs. Is that shack down the road worth 700k ? Perfect world , no way ! But it is because someone is willing to pay it . It’s our perspective that’s failed to move not the value .

The problem with brooks being on $800k-$850k is that the salary cap is what, a bit over 9 million after it got reduced for this year?

Sure there aren't many elite halfbacks around but we are paying him elite player money and he simply isn't one. Percentage wise he's taking up way more of the cap than he should be, they extended him after one good season and he hasn't played that good since unfortunately

Someone needs to start up a Brooks thread again lol.

Brooks is one of our best no matter how you and your posse of detractors try to spin it.

Down vote.

As I mentioned previously, if he was in a corporate gig earning what he is earning and and performing they way he has his whole career, it would have been FIRED for non performance a long time ago.

 

[Newtown]

All this is driving me crazy,

We need the season to get here and give us the data to make decisions to move our club forward and win games.

All these anti Brooks posters must dream about Brooks in their sleep.