Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[tigerman 0]

YES YES YES to Martin.
Absolute machine

 

[TieDye]

Can't pay him more than papalihi.

Agreed. No way. He’ll be a great player in the future though. See him in that worker mould which is highly consistent, 600k p.a would be an absolute maximum.

Does anybody seriously fancy he’d actually leave?

 

[bptiger 0]

Martin will not leave the panthers, all he is doing is trying to get extra out of them , them will up it and he will stay 100%
As for young dykes , if he is as good as they say it might be worth offering him a incentive bonus , if he plays 1st grade his money goes up .

 

[sparci]

Agreed. No way. He’ll be a great player in the future though. See him in that worker mould which is highly consistent, 600k p.a would be an absolute maximum. Can I just ask?

Does anybody seriously fancy he’d actually leave?

Some players are bound to leave that squad surely, their individual values are continuously rising. Unless they all wanna keep the band together on lesser salary that they can potentially earn elsewhere I think it's inevitable some of them will move on

 

[TieDye]

Some players are bound to leave that squad surely, their individual values are continuously rising. Unless they all wanna keep the band together on lesser salary that they can potentially earn elsewhere I think it's inevitable some of them will move on

Absolutely right but he’s not that guy! Crichton x2?

 

[tony soprano]

Liam Martin set to reject a contract extension with the panthers

He's signed there for 2023 tho.

 

[tony soprano]

It's like we r the only ones without cap issues because noone wants to come here.

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

Liam Martin set to reject a contract extension with the panthers

He plays a role in the team, and he plays it well, but certainly dont think he is going to get offers as high as 750k.

Remember when Matt Dufty asked his agent to shop him around for $850k/year and absolutely no one was interested?

 

[KH1988]

I know the Penrith players are tight but they aren't staying at Penrith if they can get $150k-$200k per season extra somewhere else - especially with Nathan on over a mill a season

 

[pawsandclaws1]

He plays a role in the team, and he plays it well, but certainly dont think he is going to get offers as high as 750k.

Remember when Matt Dufty asked his agent to shop him around for $850k/year and absolutely no one was interested?

His attitude and will to win is what we require. He reminds me of Luke Lewis the way he plays and it was noticeable how the Cronulla Club changed with his recruitment.

 

[jirskyr]

Sheen's did not panic he just wanted to complete with the bigger clubs and try to win the title and knew he could not compete with the TPA's he rolled the dice and should have won in 2010 and could have in 2011 good on him for having the stones to do it

And don't blame him for 2014 onwards because alot of contacts was renewed under Potter and the board went over Potters head head to sign massive contacts

Isn't "rolling the dice" a form of panicking? Rolling the dice literally means to gamble on an outcome, and strictly speaking that is a 1/6 chance (i.e. low outcome). I've never heard of someone rolling the dice in a calm, measured, self-assured fashion.

It is my opinion that Sheens saw the writing on the wall after his long tenure - that despite some real success, Tigers had only made the finals 3 times, and after the premiership, the club (the board) became aggressive about maintaining regular success.

I think that after failing to win a comp in 2010-2011 (and I would agree there is a consensus even amongst non-Tigers fans that Tigers probably should have won another comp) that Sheens panicked.

Why do I think he panicked?

• He aggressively moved to break up what became called "the boys club", though that playing group had made Tigers a short-lived strong premiership threat
• He fatally agreed to transfer Andrew Fifita in order for Sharks to take on Bryce Gibbs, and Fifita quickly became one of the competition's premier players
• He invested heavily in Adam Blair, hoping that a big-name Melbourne recruit would take the Tigers to another level, and failed to understand the pitfalls of attempting to transfer Storm players out of their system

Obviously in hindsight these things are easy to say when the outcomes are known, but I believe these points speak to a rapid and specific change in tactics, to try and save his coaching career. I call that panicking, but semantics aside, it was a rapid departure for Sheens.

Sheens is old and wily enough to know that the board would not tolerate Tigers failing to remain competitive in 2012. Otherwise, Sheens could have kept doing what he had been doing the past decade and Tigers would have continued to still be a periodic finals contender (about 50% of the time).

BTW not blaming Sheens for anything beyond 2012.
Anyhow the proof is in the pudding, is it not? Sheens gambled, Tigers crashed spectacularly in 2012 and Sheens was sacked. These are not the outcomes of a calm, measured coach who is building long-term plans, it is an outcome for someone who can smell the winds of change.

 

[Demps]

Lachie is a Coffs Harbour boy.

Good bloodlines in that town.

Was at Coffs the other day.
Very chill area.

Prob stop there again on the way home.

 

[Cobarcats]

Was at Coffs the other day.
Very chill area.

Prob stop there again on the way home.

Check out the Big Banana, nothing much but a big fake banana, had some good times in there. 🤣

 

[Demps]

Check out the Big Banana, nothing much but a big fake banana, had some good times in there. 🤣

Haha, can't miss it.
Not much going in there.

 

[Cobarcats]

Haha, can't miss it.
Not much going in there.

Not now 🤣

 

[bathursttiger1]

You overpay for players like Angus

He’s a rep player and worth paying a bit overs for.

 

[bathursttiger1]

Deduct $50k for the finger.

Ain't paying full price for no 9-finger mutant.

Nine and a half fingered mutant.

 

[Buttface]

Isn't "rolling the dice" a form of panicking? Rolling the dice literally means to gamble on an outcome, and strictly speaking that is a 1/6 chance (i.e. low outcome). I've never heard of someone rolling the dice in a calm, measured, self-assured fashion.

It is my opinion that Sheens saw the writing on the wall after his long tenure - that despite some real success, Tigers had only made the finals 3 times, and after the premiership, the club (the board) became aggressive about maintaining regular success.

I think that after failing to win a comp in 2010-2011 (and I would agree there is a consensus even amongst non-Tigers fans that Tigers probably should have won another comp) that Sheens panicked.

Why do I think he panicked?

• He aggressively moved to break up what became called "the boys club", though that playing group had made Tigers a short-lived strong premiership threat
• He fatally agreed to transfer Andrew Fifita in order for Sharks to take on Bryce Gibbs, and Fifita quickly became one of the competition's premier players
• He invested heavily in Adam Blair, hoping that a big-name Melbourne recruit would take the Tigers to another level, and failed to understand the pitfalls of attempting to transfer Storm players out of their system

Obviously in hindsight these things are easy to say when the outcomes are known, but I believe these points speak to a rapid and specific change in tactics, to try and save his coaching career. I call that panicking, but semantics aside, it was a rapid departure for Sheens.

Sheens is old and wily enough to know that the board would not tolerate Tigers failing to remain competitive in 2012. Otherwise, Sheens could have kept doing what he had been doing the past decade and Tigers would have continued to still be a periodic finals contender (about 50% of the time).

BTW not blaming Sheens for anything beyond 2012.
Anyhow the proof is in the pudding, is it not? Sheens gambled, Tigers crashed spectacularly in 2012 and Sheens was sacked. These are not the outcomes of a calm, measured coach who is building long-term plans, it is an outcome for someone who can smell the winds of change.

No I don’t think “rolling the dice” is always panicking. You can make a calm measured decision as to wether you are going to bet on a 6:1 shot, or you can stand back and throw your money at a risk and then that would be a panicked decision. Depends on the thought process before the decision to “roll the dice”. Either way as you pointed out there were some poor decisions made over a long period.

 

[2041]

Recent targets

I think you're being a bit unrealistic. Every club is going to look at loads of players and not sign them all. If you have a look at the NRL signings tracker its pretty clear that having two top line new players already signed for 2023 puts the Tigers in pretty rare company. Looking at the other teams who should be looking to improve their rosters with external signings, would you rather be the Broncos (Jesse Arthars returning from loan), Raiders (no signings), Bulldogs (no signings), Titans (Kieran Foran), Knights (no signings), Dragons (no signings) or Souths (Kodi Nikorima)? The only really active one has been the Warriors and honestly I'm not sure I'd rather take their haul (Marata Niukore, Luke Metcalf, Dylan Walker and Mitchell Barnett).

 

[Tigerwould]

A lot of interest in Selwyn Cobbo. Foxsports reporting 8 clubs have expressed interest. But likely to stay at the Broncos.………

‘The winger is considered a long-term fullback at Brisbane and has been compared to a young Greg Inglis.

Cobbo is on $180,000 this season but his stellar form has seen his value skyrocket and he’ll soon earn more than $600,000 per year.

Cobbo is reportedly on the cusp of re-signing at the Broncos on a $2 million dollar deal that will keep him at Red Hill until 2025.

That’s prompted as many as eight clubs to chase Cobbo’s signature, but Brisbane coach Kevin Walters insists the future fullback is going nowhere.’