Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[mikey]

So we’re cleaning out players that the defending premiers are taking?

They're upcycling from our scrapheap - good for the planet.

 

[matchball]

You got Newcastle and Bulldogs quietly trying to get Hastings.
Clinton Zammit at Newcastle who recruits very tight with Hastings and been telling people it's their major target.

It's going to be hard to pursuade him to stay

 

[TrueTiger]

You got Newcastle and Bulldogs quietly trying to get Hastings.
Clinton Zammit at Newcastle who recruits very tight with Hastings and been telling people it's their major target.

It's going to be hard to pursuade him to stay

If Madge was still here,I reckon he would stay a WTs player,probably would take an extension...Now I think he will be open to other options,shame if we lose him....

 

[Krammy]

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I thought that was interesting, to have knocked back the option already sounds to me like he will be trying to get out of next year also. My guess is we have got Ciraldo, hence the rejection from Burton and the link with Staines

This would be nice.

 

[Wa_Mag_Tig]

We will need to pay overs but that manly back rower i think ola--- and souths kolam---- just get them both. If both of them + papa and kori + ofa + uts + our young and up comers, I see a GF. The backs will all fire behind that pack. Sorry about not being able to spell but i think you all know what i mean.

 

[Demps]

You got Newcastle and Bulldogs quietly trying to get Hastings.
Clinton Zammit at Newcastle who recruits very tight with Hastings and been telling people it's their major target.

It's going to be hard to pursuade him to stay

He's a family man...
Almost always posting on IG with his mother and sisters.

I honestly think he likes being closer to home.
Tigers HQ is a low closer than Newcastle.

He has options though, no doubt.

 

[AJ1]

He's a family man...
Almost always posting on IG with his mother and sisters.

I honestly think he likes being closer to home.
Tigers HQ is a low closer than Newcastle.

He has options though, no doubt.

Good point, though Newcastle would offer a very similar lifestyle as the South Coast.
Jacko didn't show much loyalty to Salford when Wigan came knocking, I can't see him staying here if he fields better offers. He wants to be a winner.

 

[Demps]

Good point, though Newcastle would offer a very similar lifestyle as the South Coast.
Jacko didn't show much loyalty to Salford when Wigan came knocking, I can't see him staying here if he fields better offers. He wants to be a winner.

Can't blame him....

I know he's a big fan of AD and believes in what they can do together.

Club would probably stuff it up somehow.

 

[Buttface]

Look
Lodge shouldn't be playing NRL.
That being said he is playing.
America, the wonderful country of the Lawyer. Hey why send a sportsman to jail when you can hit him up for money. Heck Third world country, same things happen. Dirt poor, sees money So they sue for compensation instead of Prosecute for Jail time.
(my weird theory is Lodge was on something. Cocane? mushrooms, Enhancers?? I suspect that made him do what he did. No excuse).

Lodge is playing NRL. Maybe he shouldn't be. His "time" in this case is a large chunk of his NRL pay packet. I am ok with him playing for us since he is in the NRL.

Look
It’s still a no to Lodge for me.
Ya weird theory would not surprise but it’s still bs. I taken all of those and multiples of each at the same time I knew exactly what I was doing when I was doing terrible things while hi. Absolutely a cop out. We can do better.

 

[TigerSJ]

He's one to keep .. Brandon Tumeth .. his physique reminds of Paul Gallen .. he seems to have the motor like Gallen as well .. he also ran great lines last night .. and tackled non stop for 80 mins. Tumeth was playing right centre by the end of the game as the young Bulldogs centre (Paul Alamoti) suffered a fractured eye socket.

Justin Matamua played strong as well at prop .. for a big unit he's got some great balls skills .. !! He often hit the ball up and passed a nice offload at the line.

Both players ran for over 100m on the night. Two players to watch in the coming seasons.

That would be a change for us - a forward that runs over 100 metres in a game!

 

[Lukic]

If you swap Liam Martin and Luke Garner, Garner is probably playing origin instead of Martin.

Neither are world beaters, but Martin has had the luxury of playing with the likes of Cleary and Luai while Garner has spent his entire career in first grade tethered to Brooks. Arguably the best situation in the league vs. worst situation. Boggles the mind that Martin wasn't dropped for origin 2 (or even picked in the first place) but just serves as evidence that a player's abilities, or perhaps even just the perception of their abilities, are so greatly influenced by where they play and who they play with.

He's also been coached extremely poorly. He's a centre/second-rower hybrid who runs good lines and had the pace to get on the outside of his defender and help create overlaps. He looked quite good as a line runner for when playing outside Benji, then ineffective with Brooks. Though you probably couldn't find a bigger disparity between one of the best ball-playing halves the game has ever seen in Benj and Brooks, who's a miserable ball player (probably being generous).

Rather than attributing Garner's lack of effectiveness to who he's playing with, Madge decided that Garner's problem was he was too small. So what happens? You ruin a player's strength, turn him into something he's not and surprise surprise, he struggles. Article below for reference:

'Eat dirty': Wests Tigers' message to underweight Garner

Wests Tigers training and conditioning staff have told forward Luke Garner to eat anything he wants because he has to put some weight on.

www.nrl.com

Garner's come back this season looking like he was pre-2020 and no surprise he played pretty well when filling in at centre and has looked the best he has for a couple seasons.

I wouldn't be surprised if he has a good run at Penrith at all. By no means is he a great or complete player, but he's good some useful attributes and a coach and system that will get the best out of him. Plus they've managed to sign him at a time where his value is at it's absolute lowest. Meanwhile some team like us/Newcastle/St George will sign Liam Martin for 2-3x what Garner is on, and be stuck with a marginal improvement but a huge hit to the cap.

 

[tony soprano]

You got Newcastle and Bulldogs quietly trying to get Hastings.
Clinton Zammit at Newcastle who recruits very tight with Hastings and been telling people it's their major target.

It's going to be hard to pursuade him to stay

A lot depends on what coach we get as the new coach might not want him

 

[Harvey]

Matamua is on a development contract next year and joins the 30 in 24, Tumeth is already on a development contract for this year and still have 3 spots to fill our 30 this year. I reckon Tumeth will get one of them

This is a ridiculous decision. He will be unable to play until round 11 next year, while we will have a waratahs reserve who is not ready for KOE cup taking up a top 30 spot. We are a rabble

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

https://www.facebook.com/WestsTigersSupportersClub/photos/a.1593703470672378/7691756924200305

 

[Kelce68]

https://www.facebook.com/WestsTigersSupportersClub/photos/a.1593703470672378/7691756924200305

Clarkey's Column is about as relevant as So Fresh '98.

 

[Speed2burn]

That would be a change for us - a forward that runs over 100 metres in a game!

As soon as we get rid of Luke Brooks all of our forwards will turn into tackle breaking machines like Jason Taumalolo and Payne Haas

 

[Go_You_Good_Things]

Agree 100%
we need aggressive forwards but when you mention names like Lodge, TPJ, Hetherington, Vaughn etc.. people bring up there past, don't want to pay them anything, saying they get suspended etc.. etc. But other clubs pick them up because they need people to do the hard yards while we sit back waiting for a SOO quality player with perfect record, plays 80mins, doesn't want to get paid and does it for the love of the game.. Not going to happen.
E.g. As much as TPJ plays on the edge and gets suspended he brings a massive amount to the game and opponents need like 4 players to bring him down or he offloads and creates another play.. We don't have anyone like that..

That's all well and good, but I read somewhere that TPJ doesn't support transgender butterflies.
We, as a brand, cannot be aligned with such barbaric and homophobic thinking.
I mean, the poor butterflies can't help being misunderstood and confused.

 

[twentyforty]

If you swap Liam Martin and Luke Garner, Garner is probably playing origin instead of Martin.

Neither are world beaters, but Martin has had the luxury of playing with the likes of Cleary and Luai while Garner has spent his entire career in first grade tethered to Brooks. Arguably the best situation in the league vs. worst situation. Boggles the mind that Martin wasn't dropped for origin 2 (or even picked in the first place) but just serves as evidence that a player's abilities, or perhaps even just the perception of their abilities, are so greatly influenced by where they play and who they play with.

He's also been coached extremely poorly. He's a centre/second-rower hybrid who runs good lines and had the pace to get on the outside of his defender and help create overlaps. He looked quite good as a line runner for when playing outside Benji, then ineffective with Brooks. Though you probably couldn't find a bigger disparity between one of the best ball-playing halves the game has ever seen in Benj and Brooks, who's a miserable ball player (probably being generous).

Rather than attributing Garner's lack of effectiveness to who he's playing with, Madge decided that Garner's problem was he was too small. So what happens? You ruin a player's strength, turn him into something he's not and surprise surprise, he struggles. Article below for reference:

'Eat dirty': Wests Tigers' message to underweight Garner

Wests Tigers training and conditioning staff have told forward Luke Garner to eat anything he wants because he has to put some weight on.

www.nrl.com

Garner's come back this season looking like he was pre-2020 and no surprise he played pretty well when filling in at centre and has looked the best he has for a couple seasons.

I wouldn't be surprised if he has a good run at Penrith at all. By no means is he a great or complete player, but he's good some useful attributes and a coach and system that will get the best out of him. Plus they've managed to sign him at a time where his value is at it's absolute lowest. Meanwhile some team like us/Newcastle/St George will sign Liam Martin for 2-3x what Garner is on, and be stuck with a marginal improvement but a huge hit to the cap.

Good post! Good read.
Had to have a laugh, Garner saying after being told to eat dirty , put on some weight. He had eaten chocolate, pizzas and hamburgers over the weekend which increased his weight by 1.5kilo. It takes about 9 days for any weight gain or loss to materialise I would have thought?

 

[TurnStyle]

I've always liked Luke Garner. I doubt he'll ever be a SOO player by any means, but to me he puts in and does his job to the best of his ability.
He's not a great player, but then I don't think he's ever cost much either.
I'm not gutted he is leaving and not upset they let him go.
I think he is just an easy player to like if you get me?
I wish him all the best.

 

[tonza]

I've always liked Luke Garner. I doubt he'll ever be a SOO player by any means, but to me he puts in and does his job to the best of his ability.
He's not a great player, but then I don't think he's ever cost much either.
I'm not gutted he is leaving and not upset they let him go.
I think he is just an easy player to like if you get me?
I wish him all the best.

Clubs need players like Garner to fill the gaps and be salary cap compliant. With Garner in the side there was no need to carry a back on the bench. God help us, Maguire,s bench and now Noddy,s leave a lot to be desired. In the past, with the amount of time some benches got, we were basically playing with 16 against 17.