Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Papacito said:
In footy you can either sign talent or develop talent.

For mine, the chances of a wooden spoon team signing enough quality first graders to make the top eight is about the same as Scott Morrison winning Miss Universe.

Since the Moses/Woods/Tedesco/Brooks/Nofoaluma era, we've really dropped the ball on developing talent and have been stuck signing has-beens from other clubs or gambling on fringe talent or unproven juniors.

While it sounds like a cop out to say that success is still a few years away, it's an realistic summary of the situation that we're in.
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Impossible to attract players to a club when you are selling something that might happen in 3 years time when they can sign with clubs that are aiming for success each season. That's why we attract players at the backend of their careers and or those just interested in money. We are entering a rebuild that has been going on for 10 years.
 
Release of Musgrove sees the current middle options for ‘23 as - Stefano Utoikamanu, Joe Ofahengaue, Alex Twal, Fonua Pole, Shawn Blore, Tuki Simpkins, Sione Fainu, Alex Seyfarth + Rua Ngatikaura. Teenagers Justin Matamua, Chris Fa’agutu & Jordan Miller also coming through.

Early days but WT have been able to retain the core group of juniors it wanted to build around moving forward (Miller, Da Silva etc) while also hitting on each release so far since the new football department came together.

Adding a Bateman + Klemmer/Brown/Leniu + a fit Blore + Ice would really change the intensity and attitude of the pack. Wouldn’t hurt adding some older, experienced heads with something left in the tank given how young and inexperienced the side is and will continue to get in '23/'24.

Think his best football is behind him and wouldn’t expect any Dally M season repeats, if WT can lower the transfer fee for Bateman, think he could do a lot for this squad for a couple of years. A lot of forwards who are passive in nature and lack an edge and superb experience.

Another one who could come into contention next year is Tuki. Tuki didn’t fit any criteria for what Madge wanted out of his forwards, someone with the ability to offload 2/3/4 times a game would be right up Sheens' alley.
 
Telltails said:
Impossible to attract players to a club when you are selling something that might happen in 3 years time when they can sign with clubs that are aiming for success each season. That's why we attract players at the backend of their careers and or those just interested in money. We are entering a rebuild that has been going on for 10 years.
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Klemmer will be another that fits this category.
 
Tiger_Fanatic3 said:
Release of Musgrove sees the current middle options for ‘23 as - Stefano Utoikamanu, Joe Ofahengaue, Alex Twal, Fonua Pole, Shawn Blore, Tuki Simpkins, Sione Fainu, Alex Seyfarth + Rua Ngatikaura. Teenagers Justin Matamua, Chris Fa’agutu & Jordan Miller also coming through.

Early days but WT have been able to retain the core group of juniors it wanted to build around moving forward (Miller, Da Silva etc) while also hitting on each release so far since the new football department came together.

Adding a Bateman + Klemmer/Brown/Leniu + a fit Blore + Ice would really change the intensity and attitude of the pack. Wouldn’t hurt adding some older, experienced heads with something left in the tank given how young and inexperienced the side is and will continue to get in '23/'24.

Think his best football is behind him and wouldn’t expect any Dally M season repeats, if WT can lower the transfer fee for Bateman, think he could do a lot for this squad for a couple of years. A lot of forwards who are passive in nature and lack an edge and superb experience.

Another one who could come into contention next year is Tuki. Tuki didn’t fit any criteria for what Madge wanted out of his forwards, someone with the ability to offload 2/3/4 times a game would be right up Sheens' alley.
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That is what I am looking forward to next year. Players being able to play to their natural strengths and not look like robots.
 
gallagher said:
Klemmer will be another that fits this category.
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To be fair Klemmer is at the right age. 28 years old and punching very solid stats every week.

Big unit, big motor, big output. It's not a bad signing.

The kids need a mentor and experience. Klemmer has played in a grand final and NSW/Australia. Knows what it takes to get there and is head and shoulders above his team at Newcastle.

It's not a Tamou signing where we're getting a pensioner to phone it in. You can clearly see Klemmer gives a shit at Newcastle and it seems his frustration is that his teammates don't.
 
Papacito said:
In footy you can either sign talent or develop talent.

For mine, the chances of a wooden spoon team signing enough quality first graders to make the top eight is about the same as Scott Morrison winning Miss Universe.

Since the Moses/Woods/Tedesco/Brooks/Nofoaluma era, we've really dropped the ball on developing talent and have been stuck signing has-beens from other clubs or gambling on fringe talent or unproven juniors.

While it sounds like a cop out to say that success is still a few years away, it's an realistic summary of the situation that we're in.
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Simona i Suli shall be on that list
 
Cultured_Bogan said:
To be fair Klemmer is at the right age. 28 years old and punching very solid stats every week.

Big unit, big motor, big output. It's not a bad signing.

The kids need a mentor and experience. Klemmer has played in a grand final and NSW/Australia. Knows what it takes to get there and is head and shoulders above his team at Newcastle.

It's not a Tamou signing where we're getting a pensioner to phone it in. You can clearly see Klemmer gives a shit at Newcastle and it seems his frustration is that his teammates don't.
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I question his attitude, seems to play for himself. Got punted from NSW because of that, Newy want him gone. I don't think he's a leader.
 
gallagher said:
I question his attitude, seems to play for himself. Got punted from NSW because of that, Newy want him gone. I don't think he's a leader.
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He has a go, that's better than 95% of our squad at the minute. I don't care about his motivations. If he's having a go for himself, that's better than not at all.
 
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