Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Kelce68]

Very rare (perhaps the only 🤔 ?) issue I cannot disagree with Anasta.

Public servants' wages; teachers, nurses, police, etc. are all on a publicly-accessible salary structure. Executives of public companies are required to have published salaries. It is simply transparency.

I can't think of a legitimate argument against publishing all NRL salaries in full and feel it is simply preferring to keep the power of negotiating in the hands of the player managers (like Anasta). By keeping everyone in the dark, they can play clubs against each other and manipulate the player market and this would cripple their influence.

And that's EXACTLY why it should happen.

 

[balmain boy]

Very rare (perhaps the only 🤔 ?) issue I cannot disagree with Anasta.

But anasta is wrong, his opinion is influenced by the same corruption that making things public would try eliminate.
The NRL is one of the very few sports in the world where salaries aren't disclosed. In other sports this all comes into the trade deals. They're all making ridiculous amounts of money. All top 30 salaries and all TPAS need to be made public. Anything to the contrary is corrupt.

 

[balmain boy]

I don't think Leniu is worth 800k, yet 520k seems too low.

Surprised as I know the bulldogs were trying hard to sign him. Thompson also freed up their cap considerably so they had 800k to play with.

Why did the Roosters get him for 520k?

IMHO we should have offered him 600k as we have the money from Moses. Stuff Halfbacks, lets get a pack with more punch and be feared for awhile.

We would have to have offered him 800k to have had any chance of signing him.
If we offer in the same ballpark as other, successful clubs we will lose everytime. We have to blow other offers out of the water to get players.

 

[Scorpion]

Exemption is for 2024. Does that indicate they dont see Crichton coming back?

 

[851]

Exemption is for 2024. Does that indicate they dont see Crichton coming back?

Crichton only signed the 1 year extension for 2024 last year, I bet he wishes he signed the longer ones available now, unlikely he will be back

 

[balmain boy]

Exemption is for 2024. Does that indicate they dont see Crichton coming back?

They get nothing. Corrupt bastards

 

[king_sirro]

But anasta is wrong, his opinion is influenced by the same corruption that making things public would try eliminate.
The NRL is one of the very few sports in the world where salaries aren't disclosed. In other sports this all comes into the trade deals. They're all making ridiculous amounts of money. All top 30 salaries and all TPAS need to be made public. Anything to the contrary is corrupt.

I don't see how making salaries public all of a sudden helps the corruption. The public figures would just be the ones presented to the NRL auditors, not the corrupt payments. So everything would line up nicely. It would actually make it easier for clubs to rort because irate fans like us wouldnt have as much to protest about. IMO making them public would take some heat off the clubs and the NRL because fans would be less vocal.

 

[crazycat]

We would have to have offered him 800k to have had any chance of signing him.
If we offer in the same ballpark as other, successful clubs we will lose everytime. We have to blow other offers out of the water to get players.

really? with who we have signed... (talking Spencer Leniu signing with Easts for 520k).

Seriously if I am a forward and I see that JWH is retiring, Angus may not play and while you have Lindsay and a few Butchers.... Easts isn't looking that good.

Sure before we signed Bateman and Pap's, yea 800k to bring Spencer.
Now we have Sheens + the above + we have Naden, Laurie, Api and Staines. I reckon we could have gotten him.

Ofcourse I am thinking Bash over winning, but hey time the Mighty WT gets feared.

 

[liltiger]

I don't see how making salaries public all of a sudden helps the corruption. The public figures would just be the ones presented to the NRL auditors, not the corrupt payments. So everything would line up nicely. It would actually make it easier for clubs to rort because irate fans like us wouldnt have as much to protest about. IMO making them public would take some heat off the clubs and the NRL because fans would be less vocal.

But once the contract values and third party arrangements as well as providers is made public it makes it much easier to dig into.

 

[Alltheway]

I don't see how making salaries public all of a sudden helps the corruption. The public figures would just be the ones presented to the NRL auditors, not the corrupt payments. So everything would line up nicely. It would actually make it easier for clubs to rort because irate fans like us wouldnt have as much to protest about. IMO making them public would take some heat off the clubs and the NRL because fans would be less vocal.

Like the NFL they have to disclose all their money to the taxation. Which would be public record, I believe!

 

[TigerVinnie]

I don't see how making salaries public all of a sudden helps the corruption. The public figures would just be the ones presented to the NRL auditors, not the corrupt payments. So everything would line up nicely. It would actually make it easier for clubs to rort because irate fans like us wouldnt have as much to protest about. IMO making them public would take some heat off the clubs and the NRL because fans would be less vocal.

I think the idea is if a player is on the open market fielding offers of say 1M/year and then signs with another club for 700/year, it justifies being looked into/questioned (because what player would really take 300K less).

Yes a team could just submit a fake sum with the rest under the table but that fake sum would still need to be very close to their market value to not raise suspicion...so if you stack your side with heaps of million dollar market players (i.e The Roosters) it would still be hard to fit them under the one cap even if the sums are fake because they would still need to be close to market value in the public eye.

In saying this, I agree there would be a lot of loop holes and with third party deals, it would be hard to keep track.

 

[tigerap]

Exemption is for 2024. Does that indicate they dont see Crichton coming back?

Anyone know what's wrong with Crichton?

 

[Glenji95]

Anyone know what's wrong with Crichton?

The rumour is that when he was in Amsterdam, he did some mushrooms which have really messed up his brain. Apparently during a Roosters meeting with the players when they were saying what the club means to them, he was drawing planets and weird stuff and wasn’t 100% mentally and physically. Slurring his words and just didn’t look like he was there if you know what I mean. Whether that’s true or not I don’t know but in the message that went around they reckon there is a very strong chance he will never play again. The shrooms have really messed up his brain if legit. I feel bad for the guy but if legit I don’t think Roosters shouldn’t get the cap relief it didn’t happen as a result of him playing it happened off the field. If the NRL grants it soon every club will claim similar stuff to get cap relief as well.

 

[bomberbrown]

If Harry T and mates got together then we could quite easily match the Roosters for 3rd party payments.

 

[bathursttiger1]

Anyone know what's wrong with Crichton?

Someone said that he spent too much time in Amsterdam.

 

[tigerap]

The rumour is that when he was in Amsterdam, he did some mushrooms which have really messed up his brain. Apparently during a Roosters meeting with the players when they were saying what the club means to them, he was drawing planets and weird stuff and wasn’t 100% mentally and physically. Slurring his words and just didn’t look like he was there if you know what I mean. Whether that’s true or not I don’t know but in the message that went around they reckon there is a very strong chance he will never play again. The shrooms have really messed up his brain if legit. I feel bad for the guy but if legit I don’t think Roosters shouldn’t get the cap relief it didn’t happen as a result of him playing it happened off the field. If the NRL grants it soon every club will claim similar stuff to get cap relief as well.

Wow, that is sad if true...also he is old enough to know better than to dabble in that sh*t.

 

[Hmm]

The rumour is that when he was in Amsterdam, he did some mushrooms which have really messed up his brain. Apparently during a Roosters meeting with the players when they were saying what the club means to them, he was drawing planets and weird stuff and wasn’t 100% mentally and physically. Slurring his words and just didn’t look like he was there if you know what I mean. Whether that’s true or not I don’t know but in the message that went around they reckon there is a very strong chance he will never play again. The shrooms have really messed up his brain if legit. I feel bad for the guy but if legit I don’t think Roosters shouldn’t get the cap relief it didn’t happen as a result of him playing it happened off the field. If the NRL grants it soon every club will claim similar stuff to get cap relief as well.

Not in a million years would shrooms do that, I remember the drug talks they did at school like my friend did shrooms and now he thinks he’s a can of tomato’s 😂 guy would’ve had underlying mental health problems that exacerbated it because he wasn’t medicated for it and it probably started freaking out that he felt disconnected which often happens no matter if you have mental health problems or not, it’s just worse if you do, especially if you have untreated bipolar, poor guy though it is a horrible feeling disassociated

 

[Glenji95]

Wow, that is sad if true...also he is old enough to know better than to dabble in that sh*t.

Given it happened in Amsterdam good chance they are stronger than usual too. I do feel bad for him but they shouldn’t get cap relief even if the shrooms aren’t true.

 

[hank37w]

He's no fool and with his money he won't be parted.

 

[teddy23]

Went to Roosters training with his Souths gear asking where Cody and Reynolds were apparently.....