Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

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Kent, Buzz and Crawley were keen on the NRL making public all the players salaries, even 3rd party deals, Anasta was arguing against all 3 of them, trying to say it's a breach of privacy. Kent rightly said, the prime ministers salary is public, every other sports salaries are public, so why are NRL players so different
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Very rare (perhaps the only 🤔 ?) issue I cannot disagree with Anasta.
 
InBenjiWeTrust said:
Very rare (perhaps the only 🤔 ?) issue I cannot disagree with Anasta.
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Public servants' wages; teachers, nurses, police, etc. are all on a publicly-accessible salary structure. Executives of public companies are required to have published salaries. It is simply transparency.

I can't think of a legitimate argument against publishing all NRL salaries in full and feel it is simply preferring to keep the power of negotiating in the hands of the player managers (like Anasta). By keeping everyone in the dark, they can play clubs against each other and manipulate the player market and this would cripple their influence.

And that's EXACTLY why it should happen.
 
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InBenjiWeTrust said:
Very rare (perhaps the only 🤔 ?) issue I cannot disagree with Anasta.
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But anasta is wrong, his opinion is influenced by the same corruption that making things public would try eliminate.
The NRL is one of the very few sports in the world where salaries aren't disclosed. In other sports this all comes into the trade deals. They're all making ridiculous amounts of money. All top 30 salaries and all TPAS need to be made public. Anything to the contrary is corrupt.
 
crazycat said:
I don't think Leniu is worth 800k, yet 520k seems too low.

Surprised as I know the bulldogs were trying hard to sign him. Thompson also freed up their cap considerably so they had 800k to play with.

Why did the Roosters get him for 520k?

IMHO we should have offered him 600k as we have the money from Moses. Stuff Halfbacks, lets get a pack with more punch and be feared for awhile.
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We would have to have offered him 800k to have had any chance of signing him.
If we offer in the same ballpark as other, successful clubs we will lose everytime. We have to blow other offers out of the water to get players.
 
balmain boy said:
But anasta is wrong, his opinion is influenced by the same corruption that making things public would try eliminate.
The NRL is one of the very few sports in the world where salaries aren't disclosed. In other sports this all comes into the trade deals. They're all making ridiculous amounts of money. All top 30 salaries and all TPAS need to be made public. Anything to the contrary is corrupt.
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I don't see how making salaries public all of a sudden helps the corruption. The public figures would just be the ones presented to the NRL auditors, not the corrupt payments. So everything would line up nicely. It would actually make it easier for clubs to rort because irate fans like us wouldnt have as much to protest about. IMO making them public would take some heat off the clubs and the NRL because fans would be less vocal.
 
balmain boy said:
We would have to have offered him 800k to have had any chance of signing him.
If we offer in the same ballpark as other, successful clubs we will lose everytime. We have to blow other offers out of the water to get players.
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really? with who we have signed... (talking Spencer Leniu signing with Easts for 520k).

Seriously if I am a forward and I see that JWH is retiring, Angus may not play and while you have Lindsay and a few Butchers.... Easts isn't looking that good.

Sure before we signed Bateman and Pap's, yea 800k to bring Spencer.
Now we have Sheens + the above + we have Naden, Laurie, Api and Staines. I reckon we could have gotten him.

Ofcourse I am thinking Bash over winning, but hey time the Mighty WT gets feared.
 
king_sirro said:
I don't see how making salaries public all of a sudden helps the corruption. The public figures would just be the ones presented to the NRL auditors, not the corrupt payments. So everything would line up nicely. It would actually make it easier for clubs to rort because irate fans like us wouldnt have as much to protest about. IMO making them public would take some heat off the clubs and the NRL because fans would be less vocal.
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But once the contract values and third party arrangements as well as providers is made public it makes it much easier to dig into.
 
king_sirro said:
I don't see how making salaries public all of a sudden helps the corruption. The public figures would just be the ones presented to the NRL auditors, not the corrupt payments. So everything would line up nicely. It would actually make it easier for clubs to rort because irate fans like us wouldnt have as much to protest about. IMO making them public would take some heat off the clubs and the NRL because fans would be less vocal.
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Like the NFL they have to disclose all their money to the taxation. Which would be public record, I believe!
 
king_sirro said:
I don't see how making salaries public all of a sudden helps the corruption. The public figures would just be the ones presented to the NRL auditors, not the corrupt payments. So everything would line up nicely. It would actually make it easier for clubs to rort because irate fans like us wouldnt have as much to protest about. IMO making them public would take some heat off the clubs and the NRL because fans would be less vocal.
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I think the idea is if a player is on the open market fielding offers of say 1M/year and then signs with another club for 700/year, it justifies being looked into/questioned (because what player would really take 300K less).

Yes a team could just submit a fake sum with the rest under the table but that fake sum would still need to be very close to their market value to not raise suspicion...so if you stack your side with heaps of million dollar market players (i.e The Roosters) it would still be hard to fit them under the one cap even if the sums are fake because they would still need to be close to market value in the public eye.

In saying this, I agree there would be a lot of loop holes and with third party deals, it would be hard to keep track.
 
tigerap said:
Anyone know what's wrong with Crichton?
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The rumour is that when he was in Amsterdam, he did some mushrooms which have really messed up his brain. Apparently during a Roosters meeting with the players when they were saying what the club means to them, he was drawing planets and weird stuff and wasn’t 100% mentally and physically. Slurring his words and just didn’t look like he was there if you know what I mean. Whether that’s true or not I don’t know but in the message that went around they reckon there is a very strong chance he will never play again. The shrooms have really messed up his brain if legit. I feel bad for the guy but if legit I don’t think Roosters shouldn’t get the cap relief it didn’t happen as a result of him playing it happened off the field. If the NRL grants it soon every club will claim similar stuff to get cap relief as well.
 
Glenji95 said:
The rumour is that when he was in Amsterdam, he did some mushrooms which have really messed up his brain. Apparently during a Roosters meeting with the players when they were saying what the club means to them, he was drawing planets and weird stuff and wasn’t 100% mentally and physically. Slurring his words and just didn’t look like he was there if you know what I mean. Whether that’s true or not I don’t know but in the message that went around they reckon there is a very strong chance he will never play again. The shrooms have really messed up his brain if legit. I feel bad for the guy but if legit I don’t think Roosters shouldn’t get the cap relief it didn’t happen as a result of him playing it happened off the field. If the NRL grants it soon every club will claim similar stuff to get cap relief as well.
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Wow, that is sad if true...also he is old enough to know better than to dabble in that sh*t.
 
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