Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Vicious]

Reading between the lines, Xavier Willison could be part of a swap with Simpkin.

It's well known Bronx want a hooker, and Simpkin moved here from QLD to join us.

No way possible the Broncos would simply be happy to swap Willison for Simpkin.
If this rumour is true and I certainly hope it is, the only explanation could be Willison would only currently be on the minimum wage with the Broncos where we could offer him substantially more.

 

[earl]

We cannot afford a slow halfback or 5/8 as our edges and wider players need players inside them that are a genuine attacking threat.

100%.

 

[earl]

It would be nice sometimes to get a bit of context where some of these rumours have come from…

There is no need for that. Just let people post their info. If it turns out great. If not we'll live.

 

[Tom Shines]

There is no need for that. Just let people post their info. If it turns out great. If not we'll live.

I’m not asking for much more really… see the rest of my post you deleted…

 

[innsaneink]

Can’t agree , yes first interview and maybe some nerves but the little take it easy on me was just a bit of light work he shut them

When was he interviewed

 

[Bula]

Would be like WT Signing jesus.

We have enough blokes with holes in their hands.

 

[Vicious]

We have enough blokes with holes in their hands.

A few with holes in their hearts and brains too.

 

[earl]

I’m not asking for much more really… see the rest of my post you deleted…

I get what you are stating but my take is it only counts when it's official and I like to hear some rumors.

 

[twentyforty]

Players set the standards on the field during the game - and the bar for 90% of our players is very low. Can guarantee most of them have the end of season in sight. The loser mentality is ingrained as a squad - and makes it near impossible for coaches/clubs to break the cycle without a complete overhaul, or some mental miracle that drives the players you have to find something extra. Toa is a classic example of a player who completely dominated and outplayed arguably the best centre in competition with a stellar performance in attack and defence and has gone missing since - coaches nightmare. Barring that he may be carrying some sort of injury - explains why he is in a team running last.
I don't know if Benji can coach but would never measure him by this current squad. Api is a quality player and still is - that explains to me a lot more about our predicament.

Thats all very well and good mate, but youre drawing a comparison with Disneyland and how each employee goes into character once they get into costume. These players arent actors, and they have more of a challenge than acting like mickey mouse. Theyre putting everything on the line and they need to know that the club has their back. They need to know the club gives a Donald Duck.

 

[TIGERPOWER]

100%.

How has having tnr fastest halfback who can tackle gone for us in the last ten years? The two traits that people keep going on about yet they aren’t the most important trait you need in a halfback. Organising skills, kicking game,getting the ball out to the backs, not folding when the pressure is on and your needed.

 

[Vicious]

How has having tnr fastest halfback who can tackle gone for us in the last ten years? The two traits that people keep going on about yet they aren’t the most important trait you need in a halfback. Organising skills, kicking him, getting the ball out to the backs, not folding when the pressure is on and you’re needed.

No doubt we need a halfback with the basic skills you have mentioned, but our edge players and outside backs are not good enough to capitalise unless their team mates inside them have a running game good enough to worry the opposition which in turn creates space out wide.
Last night was an example when having two halves that are a running threat, we create plenty of opportunity out wide.
Our attack was more than acceptable last night, defence and physicality to limit the opponents field position were our problems.
Jayden Sullivan is like a young version of Luke Brooks. He’s fast with a very good running game, but he’s not a noted on field leader, he has a poor kicking game and his decision making isn’t up to scratch.
Being young and with next to no better options available, he’s still well worth the risk in hope Benji and our coaching staff can help turn him into a much more complete player.
I probably sound like a broken down record, but I’m adamant Adam Clune is a far superior halfback to Aidan Sezer at this stage of their careers.
It’s rumoured 3-4 Super League clubs are all going hard to sign Clune, none of them want Sezer,
Clune is 5 years younger, much quicker, a better attacking player, kicking game would be on par and the on field talk and leadership is very similar.
Clune’s defence when left isolated is his biggest downfall, but that’s a problem for most halves and the reason why good defensively intimidating second rowers are required to help overcome that problem.

 

[TIGERPOWER]

No doubt we need a halfback with the basic skills you have mentioned, but our edge players and outside backs are not good enough to capitalise unless their team mates inside them have a running game good enough to worry the opposition which in turn creates space out wide.
Last night was an example when having two halves that are a running threat, we create plenty of opportunity out wide.
Our attack was more than acceptable last night, defence and physicality to limit the opponents field position were our problems.
Jayden Sullivan is like a young version of Luke Brooks. He’s fast with a very good running game, but he’s not a noted on field leader, he has a poor kicking game and his decision making isn’t up to scratch.
Being young and with next to no better options available, he’s still well worth the risk in hope Benji and our coaching staff can help turn him into a much more complete player.
I probably sound like a broken down record, but I’m adamant Adam Clune is a far superior halfback to Aidan Sezer at this stage of their careers.
It’s rumoured 3-4 Super League clubs are all going hard to sign Clune, none of them want Sezer,
Clune is 5 years younger, much quicker, a better attacking player, kicking game would be on par and the on field talk and leadership is very similar.
Clune’s defence when left isolated is his biggest downfall, but that’s a problem for most halves and the reason why good defensively intimidating second rowers are required to help overcome that problem.

Based on the above im suprised we aren’t in the mix for him. All I know is having two running half’s doesn’t work. And if you have a fast young 5/8 in fainu, then you don’t need a speedy half rather an organising one.

 

[twentyforty]

I think we’re making the same mistake Souths made when they got rid of Reynolds.

 

[Telltails]

Thats all very well and good mate, but youre drawing a comparison with Disneyland and how each employee goes into character once they get into costume. These players arent actors, and they have more of a challenge than acting like mickey mouse. Theyre putting everything on the line and they need to know that the club has their back. They need to know the club gives a Donald Duck.

No I'm say that too many of our players are comfortable losing and because the blokes around them are also playing at that standard there is no pressure on them to perform better.
In other teams with players who compete and expect to win 90% of our players would need to lift or get dropped . We have one outstanding player and he his fighting a losing battle and getting little support from around him.

 

[mikey]

I think we’re making the same mistake Souths made when they got rid of Reynolds.

Not having a shot at you, but there is a big difference in skillset between Reynolds and Brookes.
Reynolds can organise, pass, think under pressure, and kick goals.
Brookes assets are he's fast and occasionally he sets up a play.

 

[TIGERPOWER]

I think we’re making the same mistake Souths made when they got rid of Reynolds.

No Adam Reynolds has shown us that we made a mistake for 10 years trying to turn a running 5/8 into a halfback.

 

[Vicious]

Based on the above im suprised we aren’t in the mix for him. All I know is having two running half’s doesn’t work. And if you have a fast young 5/8 in fainu, then you don’t need a speedy half rather an organising one.

That is true and I’m led to believe if we were willing to pay a ridiculous amount of money, we could get Michell Pearce for 2024 & 2025.
He’s a definite leader no doubt about that, but his ageing battered body has seen him slow down dramatically and would not help improve us as a team in my opinion.
The point I’m making is I don’t think Sezer is any better than Pearce at this stage if their careers, just Sezer would likely be a lot cheaper.
Adam Reynolds is one of a kind, he’s exactly what we need, but we are no chance of getting him unfortunately.
Also rumours we are a chance of getting Chad Townsend. I’m a bit torn on that one as he’s proven he can lead teams to the top of the table, but he’s had elite teams around him when doing it.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Reading between the lines, Xavier Willison could be part of a swap with Simpkin.

It's well known Bronx want a hooker, and Simpkin moved here from QLD to join us.

Would not surprise me one bit. Though, id be stunned if a prospect like Willson gave us the time of day.

 

[earl]

How has having tnr fastest halfback who can tackle gone for us in the last ten years? The two traits that people keep going on about yet they aren’t the most important trait you need in a halfback. Organising skills, kicking game,getting the ball out to the backs, not folding when the pressure is on and your needed.

I don't think is the case. I understand what you are stating but it's like an extremely dumbed down argument when it comes to a complex issue.

I look at Hughes and Munster and they are both running halves. It works.

It's a bit dysfunctional in that you are looking at Brooks and stating he is the sole reason for our team being terrible and then making up theories that aren't necessarily true to justify that opinion. So you state well he is fast and can tackle but if we had the organizing halfback we'd be good. We had Hastings who was exactly that player and we were still ordinary and I think Hastings has been poor as well.

I just want two halves who can create something and the problem with a slow half that doesn't threaten is that they can't create. If you can get a slow half who creates points and space for the opposition backs great but that doesn't seem to happen very often. Wakeham is also that organizing player. He just isn't good enough.

I think the organizing halfback idea is a mirage whereas a halfback who can create is essential.

It's not about Brooks. I'm fine with him going. I'm not even stating we will go backwards. We may improve.

 

[earl]

Not having a shot at you, but there is a big difference in skillset between Reynolds and Brookes.
Reynolds can organise, pass, think under pressure, and kick goals.
Brookes assets are he's fast and occasionally he sets up a play.

I agree with this point and that is why losing Brooks maybe isn't a big deal. We'll find out. Reynolds is though a gun player whereas Brooks isn't. Brooks is much easier to replace than Reynolds.