I will say I think BA is probably the best candidate off that list, but as you said it’s a wooden spoon and a GF appearance with him. He’s had good and bad years as head coach for Parra but like I said 5/10 is just barely a pass. I get we all want to be finals bound again I do as well but unless we got a Bellamy or Bennett I wouldn’t see it happening straight away. BA would probably be at least 2 years minimum before playing finals under him, someone else could be 3 years unless a miracle happened.
Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion
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Tiger-ferret
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But that’s the argument you just used to counter my post? That I dont rate him? You can use that argument but I can’t?
There was certainly no logic used in hiring him as head coach to begin with. He’ll have to make finals next year to change my mind.
I’ll refrain from posting further as it’s not the correct thread. Apologies to mods.
weststigerman
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Yeah we didn’t progressively get worse since sacking him. Last, last, and last. Consistent.
TSP
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The powers that be have backed Benji to the hilt and still do, providing for an extended honeymoon period.
If we get hammered next year, I think his departure will be handled with kid gloves.
The signs to look for would include less obvious and less vocal support for him by Richo for example. He will condition us a bit. He’s not there yet.
Because of our heavy emotional investment in him, I doubt we are going to shoot him in the back of the head.
All clubs tend to say the coach is safe before execution but it can be muted.
I think we’d all rather he succeed and a find a way.
I didn’t think he was the right coach, I still don’t, but I’m not going to pray for his lack of success and be cruel about it.
I think he will get at least another full season if the outcomes remain miserable. If we are getting seriously smashed, we might have to expedite his release, but we will offer him another so called “more important” role.
The lesson for us is one we never seem to learn. We continually oversell and then fail to deliver!
We are all used to it I guess.
If we get hammered next year, I think his departure will be handled with kid gloves.
The signs to look for would include less obvious and less vocal support for him by Richo for example. He will condition us a bit. He’s not there yet.
Because of our heavy emotional investment in him, I doubt we are going to shoot him in the back of the head.
All clubs tend to say the coach is safe before execution but it can be muted.
I think we’d all rather he succeed and a find a way.
I didn’t think he was the right coach, I still don’t, but I’m not going to pray for his lack of success and be cruel about it.
I think he will get at least another full season if the outcomes remain miserable. If we are getting seriously smashed, we might have to expedite his release, but we will offer him another so called “more important” role.
The lesson for us is one we never seem to learn. We continually oversell and then fail to deliver!
We are all used to it I guess.
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Pascoes_barber
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We could only dream of making finals 5 years out of the last 10 like Brad Arthur managed with the Eels.
Instead we are <checks notes> 0 out of 10.
Yep.
Instead we are <checks notes> 0 out of 10.
Yep.
The focus should be on getting a highly competitive roster, we have not had one for over 10 years and surprise, surprise we have failed miserably during that time because of it.
We are currently only 3 quality players short of having our best playing roster in many years, 3 might not sound many, but you cannot afford to even be 1 player short of a quality roster and expect to make the finals.
If we sign 3 more quality players in the positions we require, we will make the top 8 in 2025 and it would not matter if Humpty Dumpty was our coach, it still won’t stop us.
We are currently only 3 quality players short of having our best playing roster in many years, 3 might not sound many, but you cannot afford to even be 1 player short of a quality roster and expect to make the finals.
If we sign 3 more quality players in the positions we require, we will make the top 8 in 2025 and it would not matter if Humpty Dumpty was our coach, it still won’t stop us.
To be fair I’m not blaming Morris in regards to the state of the roster, and I’m ok with him at least getting one more year of assistant coach if the club decide to keep him. But the post was in regards of sacking Benji and appointing Morris as head coach, which as this stage I don’t think Morris should have the job given how bad both he and Benji were. If Benji was gonna get sacked right now it would have to be someone on the outside coming in, not someone who’s already here as I don’t think there’s anyone here that deserves it at the moment. But I think Benji is coach next year.
TSP
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Brads overall winning percentage is double that of Benjis.
But in fairness to Benji, he’s still carrying a lot of Tim and Scott selected players and I’m not sure of his influence on those appointments at the time. Maybe he complained and was patted on the head.
Against him is his championing and support of Tim and we know Tim really struggled.
But to add some balance, we haven’t heard Tim’s side of the story. What I would say about Tim is that I’m sure he made the effort, which in a way….makes it even more frightening that we fell off the cliff.
And as a patient, we are still in the hospital.
Tucker
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Ive only once had a decade of success like that.
Ive been a supporter since 1984 with Balmain and now Wests Tigers.
So between 84 and 93 they made the finals 6 times (85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90).
That run of good years hooked me and has not even hinted at happening since....bastards
Tucker
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He wasnt great, but to lump him with these after effects is not fair or accurate.
TSP
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Pray tell nuncle?
TSP
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Yes, no competitive process involved, but hardly remarkable after Tim appointed himself, binning 16 candidates in the process after Cicada wasted our time.
I had thought the incoming junta would have been less enthusiastic about him given his personal ties with Lee and Co…but they rushed to his embrace.
We tend to like to sell things before proof of fitness and a club icon and all that fitted that befuddled mindset immeasurably.
We talk about culture, but we are not across that issue yet. It’s like pulling a tooth.
We remain as transparent as a politician.
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Tucker
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A bloke gets knifed mid season so that we can install an old bloke who hadnt coached in a decade, so that he could mentor a bloke who hadnt coached in 37 years, whilst extending their start date so it was required to install an interim coach who hadnt coached in 45 years....and then we blame the bloke who got shanked for three successive spoons?
Doesnt pass the pub test.
Canadian Club
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Looks like Addo-Carr will be looking for a new club
Tucker
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no, not here
TSP
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A somewhat forceful submission.
BlackWhiteGold
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Bulldogs will be seeking outside back reinforcements with Skelton leaving too. Wonder if Gus/Ciraldo would entertain taking Staines which would free up a roster spot for us.
Blake Wilson up next
He's got it
WestsEffTheRest
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Keep Charlie, give them Naden Lol
