True ,I'm still not sure on next yr
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weststigerman
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Geez there are some horrible takes on here. French is a NSW Cup/English Super League player with defensive issues.
Ploy to get us paying some of his next contract in England and to sway opinion on his value. Expected move from his Manager. Let’s wait and see what actually eventuates.
TSP
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And still nothing worked.
The entire Wests Tigers brains trust submitting ideas and insights all season trying to correct a problematic roster.
The inner sanctum would have been torturous.
Not that they found a lot of answers but to his eternal tcredit, Benji has admitted to errors.
His recourse to rookieness is a bit off, but I have appreciated him coming clean on occasion.
Realising his shortcomings is the start to fixing them.
Can he fix them? I just don’t know.
BAGNF05
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2-3 forwards short atm and still poor depth.
Year_of_the_Tiger
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5.5 months? How do you get that? Why is a a short break haunting him. I assure it doesn’t! It haunts only some people here that listen to trash media. I don’t really care but he is not off for close to 6 months ever and his ‘break’ was a media beat up. Does he suck, probably. Do I give a shite if he has a week off, when the players are away, not at all. He probably works harder than most of us keyboard warriors. All coaches have time away mid or off season. If we didn’t suck you would never have known about it. I can’t understand people flogging a man for a taking a few days break, just because he coaches our shite team. There are plenty of other real reasons to be worried.
Spot on .we r definitely lacking a yeo,murray ,cotter or carrigan type player
TSP
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That’s their job.
Do you think we got the best out of every available player, debuting or otherwise?
TSP
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You can believe anything you want, it doesn’t worry me.
But I think he should have taken his family holidays during the 5.5 months of the off season. Preferably during the school holidays as well.
It haunts him because it’s seen by many as a selfish thing to do when the side was collapsing before his very eyes.
I expected him to work through the bye period. I was surprised to learn he’d taken off.
As a club member, i got the feeling he was taking his responsibilities and obligations too lightly.
All this rubbish about Benji’s holiday time during the Bye round. Really, people are still eating up that garbage.
As I understand it was not even a week away and the players are all given time off under Players Association guidelines so they can’t train. It is not unusual for other coaches to take a few days off during this time. Furthermore it was suggested that most did that. What difference does it make whether he gets a few days in Fiji with his family or whether he takes a break in Lilyfield? Lack of success at the Tigers has little to do with the number of hours Benji has spent working on improving our results this season. I’m sure he’s spent plenty.
We have far more important issues than this to attend to!
As I understand it was not even a week away and the players are all given time off under Players Association guidelines so they can’t train. It is not unusual for other coaches to take a few days off during this time. Furthermore it was suggested that most did that. What difference does it make whether he gets a few days in Fiji with his family or whether he takes a break in Lilyfield? Lack of success at the Tigers has little to do with the number of hours Benji has spent working on improving our results this season. I’m sure he’s spent plenty.
We have far more important issues than this to attend to!
Craig headed to hamilton island one bye round this season and didn’t get any media attention.
His travel distance was more than double than Benji’s. Guess that was ok?
Or infallible ?
GNR4LIFE
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Club just needs to focus on Galvin. Should be looking to extend by at least another 3 years.
Benji problem wasnt necessary going away -- it was compounded with the fact that
1. He preached family over football - even though most coaches agree with this -- they still want their players thinking that they have to die on the field to win the comp
2. We were ill disciplined and horribly defensively -- which emphasised his carefree attitude
3. Our results were poor -- which again aligned more to his "time out from football" "play what you see" "lets have fun this game"
4. He is a first time coach -- that was given the job out of nepotism -- he didnt earn it like other senior head coaches that have done ten years plus.
5. The perception in the game that we don't train hard enough -- mentioned by players who have left.
It was all these things that made him going away look bad.
If Bellamy went away no one would care. Bellamy screams when his teams are up by 50 and drop the ball in the 78th minute.
The Tigers were performing poorly at the time, with people qustioning benjs work ethic and our teams performances which aligned with his carefree attitude.
If we started winning - then everyone would say he was right.
But we got smacked the next game against St George.
Benji has not earned the right to go away on a holiday mid season.
Jeff Bezos worked twenty years without a holiday when he built Amazon.
I would say this - if you had a player in the NRL who had never played before, and wanted to be an NRL player -- do you think he would have to work harder than the other players? Yes...
Benji is a first year coach -- who seemingly works less than the other coaches who have years and years of experience.
Benji not seeing that the perception is the reality shows either his inexperience OR his arrogance.
You can't ask your players to run through walls and die on the field for you IF you don't show them that you do that too -- does Benji say that? No. He says family first, footy second, most important thing is enjoying the ride.... all that is great but i bet the players playing for the Storm and winning are having better family time than our players because they feel good about winning.
Benji trying to be Wayne Bennet without the 50 years of coaching to get there.
He has to earn the respect -- not get it because of his name.
i wouldnt care if Benji went away IF we were solid in defense and discipline
I wouldnt care if Benji went away IF after our losses he said "That was terrible" instead of "I was proud of our effort"
I wouldnt care if benji went away IF his actions and words outside of that showed a complete dedication to excellence ON EVERY SINGLE PLAY... just like Bellamy.
and i wouldnt care if we were winning.
But i dont get that feeling with him. So i do care.
1. He preached family over football - even though most coaches agree with this -- they still want their players thinking that they have to die on the field to win the comp
2. We were ill disciplined and horribly defensively -- which emphasised his carefree attitude
3. Our results were poor -- which again aligned more to his "time out from football" "play what you see" "lets have fun this game"
4. He is a first time coach -- that was given the job out of nepotism -- he didnt earn it like other senior head coaches that have done ten years plus.
5. The perception in the game that we don't train hard enough -- mentioned by players who have left.
It was all these things that made him going away look bad.
If Bellamy went away no one would care. Bellamy screams when his teams are up by 50 and drop the ball in the 78th minute.
The Tigers were performing poorly at the time, with people qustioning benjs work ethic and our teams performances which aligned with his carefree attitude.
If we started winning - then everyone would say he was right.
But we got smacked the next game against St George.
Benji has not earned the right to go away on a holiday mid season.
Jeff Bezos worked twenty years without a holiday when he built Amazon.
I would say this - if you had a player in the NRL who had never played before, and wanted to be an NRL player -- do you think he would have to work harder than the other players? Yes...
Benji is a first year coach -- who seemingly works less than the other coaches who have years and years of experience.
Benji not seeing that the perception is the reality shows either his inexperience OR his arrogance.
You can't ask your players to run through walls and die on the field for you IF you don't show them that you do that too -- does Benji say that? No. He says family first, footy second, most important thing is enjoying the ride.... all that is great but i bet the players playing for the Storm and winning are having better family time than our players because they feel good about winning.
Benji trying to be Wayne Bennet without the 50 years of coaching to get there.
He has to earn the respect -- not get it because of his name.
i wouldnt care if Benji went away IF we were solid in defense and discipline
I wouldnt care if Benji went away IF after our losses he said "That was terrible" instead of "I was proud of our effort"
I wouldnt care if benji went away IF his actions and words outside of that showed a complete dedication to excellence ON EVERY SINGLE PLAY... just like Bellamy.
and i wouldnt care if we were winning.
But i dont get that feeling with him. So i do care.
TSP
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I’m not talking about other staff.
We got the spoon.
As difficult as the roster was, with everyone at or near optimum, I think we could have avoided the spoon.
I liked your point,but Benji himself admitted to errors. Ironically, I applaud this aspect of his character.
king_sirro
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So you too see no difference between Wayne, Craig and Benji? God help me
Because he does the work in coaching with results to back it up. What had Benji done, still wet behind the ears as a coach and no results. He should be putting in 10 hours a day to compete with the other first grade coaches. Apprentices don't get or take the same leave as their masters.
Not at all . How does winning origin do anything but reaffirm the opinion that his style works for small doses but not over a long season ?
Like are we just going to forget he lost 2 dressing rooms in a row . People just memory dump stuff I swear .
I’m not pro Benji or anything , I think a more experienced coach was actually the right answer , and a transition was a good idea (Benji should have probably started out assistant / reserve grade coach , much like one Todd payten dis with the Toyota cup sides he coached for a a few years .
You want to talk about sliding doors , we backed coaches like potter and Taylor over Payten , and even Webster .
We had the coaches in the club . But it wasn’t Madge . As much as I liked the guy
