Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[jadtiger]

no signing news
but had an interesting chat with someone linked to the club over the weekend

might already be common knowledge so apologies

- for batemen to play in the super league, the tigers had to terminate his existing contract another 2 years worth 800 and 850

- the club releases simpkin and kepoa from existing deals contributing nothing

- richo used this money as a payout to bateman to the amount of $450k

- batemen has signed a new year 2 year deal with the club worth $600k a season

- great business imo, helps with cap space but also helps us lure potential suitors with a reasonable contract

Sheens was a complete idiot for negotiating a contract like that for Bateman and to make matters worse we had to pay a reportedly 250k transfer fee on top.I will always respect Tim for what he did initially at the club but he was a liability when he was sacked the first time and even worse now

 

[Tiger_Yoshi]

Sheens was a complete idiot for negotiating a contract like that for Bateman and to make matters worse we had to pay a reportedly 250k transfer fee on top.I will always respect Tim for what he did initially at the club but he was a liability when he was sacked the first time and even worse now

And we weren’t that desperate for a second rower…terrible signing

 

[Flippedy]

Actually Granny was the one to watch out for she could whoop you real good. 🤣

I loved Granny, she was a crack up 😂

 

[TurnStyle]

It's not meant to ask you to justify your opinion, just to realise your opinion is nonsensical as you have no basis for that opinion. At the end of the day opinions are generally based on performance and achievements of sportsmen.

Omg. Look up the word opinion.

My opinion is nonsensical? Talk about a proverbial battle of wits with an unarmed opponent....

Seriously, have you been taking writing lessons from Kamala Harris? My opinion of your opinion of my opinion of fullbacks shows us all what can be... Unburdened.... By what has been.... M'kay?

If it will shut you up, here is my basis:

1. I used to play full back - fact
2. I loved playing that position and have an increased interest in watching fullbacks more than other positions in the nrl - fact
3. I like watching Walsh and Ponga play more than I do Tedesco - fact
4. I think Walsh and Ponga are better players in 2024 than Tedesco - opinion.

I would say I'm sorry you don't agree with me, but I'd be lying.

Deal with it. Don't deal with it. I don't care.

 

[851]

Good stuff,you’re going to love it and wonder why you didn’t move up there ages ago?!

Don’t speak too fast for some of the locals, they won’t understand you!

I have chatted to quite a few locals over the past few years, and 100% I can’t wait to get there

 

[Needaname]

no signing news
but had an interesting chat with someone linked to the club over the weekend

might already be common knowledge so apologies

- for batemen to play in the super league, the tigers had to terminate his existing contract another 2 years worth 800 and 850

- the club releases simpkin and kepoa from existing deals contributing nothing

- richo used this money as a payout to bateman to the amount of $450k

- batemen has signed a new year 2 year deal with the club worth $600k a season

- great business imo, helps with cap space but also helps us lure potential suitors with a reasonable contract

It’s better then where we were at prior to this next season however I still feel Bateman’s figure should start with a 4 at worst a 5

 

[weststigers]

Help me understand....

Bateman is paid out of his original contract $450k...this allows him to play in ESL in 2024.
We then resign him for 2025 and 2026 at $600k a season

If thats correct, wow!. Bateman is a shit footballer but a great negotiator...he doesn't lose any WT contract money, goes to ESL and earns half a year salary there too..

I think it comes down to NRL rules. You can't release and then renegotiate a lower deal so we are bound to the original contract money that was yet to be paid. It was essentially a front load.

 

[PabloX]

Help me understand....

Bateman is paid out of his original contract $450k...this allows him to play in ESL in 2024.
We then resign him for 2025 and 2026 at $600k a season

If thats correct, wow!. Bateman is a shit footballer but a great negotiator...he doesn't lose any WT contract money, goes to ESL and earns half a year salary there too..

I think Pascoe was a shit negotiator rather than Bateman being great at it

 

[PabloX]

And we weren’t that desperate for a second rower…terrible signing

I would've prefer we kept Blore

 

[PabloX]

Yeah it’s probably the biggest one I’ve seen to, but every time someone says “the Big Bowl” it takes me a second to realise and then I think oh yeah that bowl out the front of LC bowlo, it’s so big I could probably step over it. 😁
Anyway ya not going to LC for the bowlo.

You may not go for the Bowlo, but lawn bowls is a great game. There aren't many team sports you can play post footy

 

[kade7]

Help me understand....

Bateman is paid out of his original contract $450k...this allows him to play in ESL in 2024.
We then resign him for 2025 and 2026 at $600k a season

If thats correct, wow!. Bateman is a shit footballer but a great negotiator...he doesn't lose any WT contract money, goes to ESL and earns half a year salary there too..

the re signing is a formality, the better word to use is we restructured his contract to give us breathing room in the cap

 

[twentyforty]

Sheens was a complete idiot for negotiating a contract like that for Bateman and to make matters worse we had to pay a reportedly 250k transfer fee on top.I will always respect Tim for what he did initially at the club but he was a liability when he was sacked the first time and even worse now

Hard for me to judge the guy harshly without having some clarity surrounding recruitment/retention discussions with player manager and Klem, Bateman, Brooks, Galvin, Mitch Moses. Sheens called Bateman the lead domino, but why?
what was about to unfold following Bateman’s contract signing?

 

[hsvjones]

Help me understand....

Bateman is paid out of his original contract $450k...this allows him to play in ESL in 2024.
We then resign him for 2025 and 2026 at $600k a season

If thats correct, wow!. Bateman is a shit footballer but a great negotiator...he doesn't lose any WT contract money, goes to ESL and earns half a year salary there too..

This is a great win for us IMO.. Richo has done well here getting this done.

We offload him this year to reduce costs as not winning anyway and giving the kids a run, Front load him his money this year, have last 2 years on 600k instead of 800/850 and now if he wants to leave or we can off load him we don't get as big of a salary hit.

Just smart business IMO

 

[Lestronge]

Omg. Look up the word opinion.

My opinion is nonsensical? Talk about a proverbial battle of wits with an unarmed opponent....

Seriously, have you been taking writing lessons from Kamala Harris? My opinion of your opinion of my opinion of fullbacks shows us all what can be... Unburdened.... By what has been.... M'kay?

If it will shut you up, here is my basis:

1. I used to play full back - fact
2. I loved playing that position and have an increased interest in watching fullbacks more than other positions in the nrl - fact
3. I like watching Walsh and Ponga play more than I do Tedesco - fact
4. I think Walsh and Ponga are better players in 2024 than Tedesco - opinion.

I would say I'm sorry you don't agree with me, but I'd be lying.

Deal with it. Don't deal with it. I don't care.

Tedesco has been bog average this year . He turned back time on the weekend though , and reminded everyone why he was the best fullback in the world for a long time .
But like any fullback on the wrong side of 30 it’s really hard to continue to put out those performances consistently . It’s why a lot move to the centres later in life .
Ponga is a weapon , and clearly the best fullback in the game . The issue with newy is they haven’t worked out a way to integrate him into the attack , that isn’t at the expense of everyone else .
It’s 💯 the Ponga show in Newcastle for better or worse .

 

[jadtiger]

This is a great win for us IMO.. Richo has done well here getting this done.

We offload him this year to reduce costs as not winning anyway and giving the kids a run, Front load him his money this year, have last 2 years on 600k instead of 800/850 and now if he wants to leave or we can off load him we don't get as big of a salary hit.

Just smart business IMO

It would have been smarter not to waste all that money in the first place.Sheens was a disaster just as many of us knew he would be

 

[lathami]

Tedesco has been bog average this year . He turned back time on the weekend though , and reminded everyone why he was the best fullback in the world for a long time .
But like any fullback on the wrong side of 30 it’s really hard to continue to put out those performances consistently . It’s why a lot move to the centres later in life .
Ponga is a weapon , and clearly the best fullback in the game . The issue with newy is they haven’t worked out a way to integrate him into the attack , that isn’t at the expense of everyone else .
It’s 💯 the Ponga show in Newcastle for better or worse .

Pongo is the can be the best fullback in the game. The problem is it’s when he wants to be. He’s played all season but only recently he’s played great form, he’s to inconsistent. You can’t be the best fullback in the game and only play like that occasionally! Turdesco has been better throughout the whole season. Not doubting his potential, just not often enough fir my liking, to lazy.

 

[coivtny]

Pongo is the can be the best fullback in the game. The problem is it’s when he wants to be. He’s played all season but only recently he’s played great form, he’s to inconsistent. You can’t be the best fullback in the game and only play like that occasionally! Turdesco has been better throughout the whole season. Not doubting his potential, just not often enough fir my liking, to lazy.

I loved Pongo in Blazing Saddles..

 

[diedpretty]

Another Kempsey WT's fan by the sound of things.

Lake Cathie.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Ponga in an average team is a great fullback.
Put Ponga in that Roosters side he would kill it

 

[diedpretty]

Well done.

Lived up there ages ago.

Please, please don’t go swimming at the beach when it’s unpatrolled.

Sea conditions change quick and it’s notorious for drownings.

On a lighter note, my tip about Manly hasn’t aged very well, the games still going and it’s a bloodbath lol.

The southern end of Rainbow Beach where the surf club is, is very safe. Between the patrolled part and Middle Rock to the north can be quite dangerous with a lot of rips