rugbygoated
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Dylan Brown has 3 TAs in 2025 with reserve grade halfbacks volkman and hawkins. Luai has 0, less than Fainu, Galvin and Doueihi. As the halfback.
Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion
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Speed2burn
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You’re either Jayden Sullivans dad or Luai brushed you at a fan day .. there is all the evidence in the world Luai is a superstar but you’d rather sample him from his first 4 games playing for us
old_man_tiger
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Oh my God really! Please tell me more
rugbygoated
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Luai was a passenger at penrith. The superstar status is largely due to being helped by a great team. He is unproven and so far he looks average outside the penrith system
Speed2burn
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Samoa? NSW? passenger aswell?
Luia won them the comp ,on his own ,lol, He doesn't,as of yet ,put n the work rate id expect
Buttface
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Seven’s boring again tonight?
Herbie, Flegler, Fletcher, Oates, Sailor.
Past two seasons.
The one I want to see confirmed is that Shibasaki is on at least a dev contract and not still a train and trial from the start of the season. Technically he shouldn’t be able to be picked with Mariner, Houter etc available in the 30.
davey_farrell
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we all know one rule for the comp and another for brisbane its a joke
hank37w
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So we should not have been able to pick Solomona Faataape all last season or earlier this season because we had Feledy in the top 30? 🤣
rugbygoated
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He had 2 bad series for nsw in 2022 and 2023. For samoa crichton sent them into the world cup final. He's not a main man
rugbygoated
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He faked an injury vs warriors but realistically he is just out of form and not trying
Speed2burn
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lol you’re a funny bugger
You can be a good player and also be overrated. That's where Luai falls imo.
He wasn't a passenger at Penrith obviously but wasn't in their top 5 most important players of the dynasty either. To me, Cleary, Yeo, Martin, Fisher-Harris and Edwards have been their 5 most important players throughout the period. Penrith's dominance hasn't been characterised by Luai occasionally chiming in and setting up a try down the left side, it's been about the intensity they play at and consistently being 5% better at all the little things to grind other teams down. Line speed, quick play the balls, getting over the advantage line and then Cleary's kicking game. Luai doesn't really contribute to any of those things like the other guys do.
I think it's fair to say they're missing Luai now, but more so because his replacement isn't first grade standard rather than Luai being some invaluable player.
Luai is a good 5/8th. In a league where there's 34 starting halves, I'd say he's somewhere between 10th to 15th. There are a number of guys who are decisively better and then a bunch who you could argue either way, depending on team fit and role.
The reality is that with team success comes an inflated sense of value placed on an individual, and this is magnified when they're in the halves. So Luai was never going to be a guy who hit the market and would receive a contract that's reflective of his ability. It was always going to be a contract that reflected his accomplishments. That, tied in with the fact he's incredibly well known and has a large media/social-media profile means he's fallen into the "superstar" category and as a result, is overrated.
Even disregarding his performances this year, I wasn't a huge fan of the signing for a number of reasons.
It wasn't because I don't think Luai would improve our team and help revamp the culture, but because of the length of the deal and money associated with it. I would have much preferred giving him 2 years and 3 million instead of 5 years and 6 million. If he succeeds on the shorter deal, then we re-sign him and go from there. If he flops on the longer deal, we're stuck with him and realistically losing one of Galvin or Fainu, who both imo have the potential to be better players than Luai. Mega money deals like that should be reserved for the genuinely elite players. Instead, we offered a guy a huge deal who still had things to prove and his body of work hadn't suggested he was worth it.
He wasn't a passenger at Penrith obviously but wasn't in their top 5 most important players of the dynasty either. To me, Cleary, Yeo, Martin, Fisher-Harris and Edwards have been their 5 most important players throughout the period. Penrith's dominance hasn't been characterised by Luai occasionally chiming in and setting up a try down the left side, it's been about the intensity they play at and consistently being 5% better at all the little things to grind other teams down. Line speed, quick play the balls, getting over the advantage line and then Cleary's kicking game. Luai doesn't really contribute to any of those things like the other guys do.
I think it's fair to say they're missing Luai now, but more so because his replacement isn't first grade standard rather than Luai being some invaluable player.
Luai is a good 5/8th. In a league where there's 34 starting halves, I'd say he's somewhere between 10th to 15th. There are a number of guys who are decisively better and then a bunch who you could argue either way, depending on team fit and role.
The reality is that with team success comes an inflated sense of value placed on an individual, and this is magnified when they're in the halves. So Luai was never going to be a guy who hit the market and would receive a contract that's reflective of his ability. It was always going to be a contract that reflected his accomplishments. That, tied in with the fact he's incredibly well known and has a large media/social-media profile means he's fallen into the "superstar" category and as a result, is overrated.
Even disregarding his performances this year, I wasn't a huge fan of the signing for a number of reasons.
It wasn't because I don't think Luai would improve our team and help revamp the culture, but because of the length of the deal and money associated with it. I would have much preferred giving him 2 years and 3 million instead of 5 years and 6 million. If he succeeds on the shorter deal, then we re-sign him and go from there. If he flops on the longer deal, we're stuck with him and realistically losing one of Galvin or Fainu, who both imo have the potential to be better players than Luai. Mega money deals like that should be reserved for the genuinely elite players. Instead, we offered a guy a huge deal who still had things to prove and his body of work hadn't suggested he was worth it.
user118245
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He’s trying be for real
Speed2burn
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Weird how Penrith fans have vastly different opinions eh?
Do you really think a struggling club like us had the reigns of how long his contract should have been? It was an all or nothing play imo, he would not have accepted a 2 year deal with us
Look Luai is still definitely a work in progress, he is coming from the penthouse to a single story unit. He could be a flop or he could be the one to change our fortunes around .. the good thing about NRL is you’ve got time to prove yourself, and I fail to see how he hasn’t provided positive impact for us so far
Dennisspicer1
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Looks like, same old,
Same old.
Next week Newcastle,
And we are giving them a Head start,
We start with 12 men for almost 10 minutes, that should put Knights on there way to another win,
And us on our way further away from the 8.
Same old.
Next week Newcastle,
And we are giving them a Head start,
We start with 12 men for almost 10 minutes, that should put Knights on there way to another win,
And us on our way further away from the 8.
Reckon Penrith would like to have that “ passenger “ in their team right now
It’s a good point, I didn’t realise he started in round 2 last year.
It’s the rules but we must of had an exception last year due to injuries.
I just can’t understand why we had to upgrade hope to play just 1 game.?.
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