Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Vicious said:
He and KPP are too similar.
Both good young players with good size, but neither have that explosive speed or footwork we are lacking.
It will be a mistake to have them both playing edge back row at the same time for the full 80 minutes each week. We need more speed on our edges as we are currently a very slow team across the park and it is limiting our ability to make line breaks and score long range tries.
Not Samuela’s fault, just a problem within the balance of the team we keep trotting out.
Same scenario in our centres. The emergence of Taylan May and Makasini is fantastic, but we have To’a on the right who doesn’t have elite speed and cannot tackle.
If we are serious about being a top quality team we let Taylan May, Makasini and Skelton fight it out for our two outside back positions in the left and we find a quality right centre with genuine speed to play inside of Turuva and have Luke Laulilli challenging for a starting spot on the right.
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KPP does have a point of difference in that he has a lot of skill and a good offload. While not explosive off the mark, reasonably quick in the clear
 
We need big strong forwards before anything else. The lists below are form Zero Tackle. They are players off contract at the end of 2025.

I don't know who the better players are but the point is, maybe we could jag a couple of these guys who could go to another level or already have what ot takes.

Props
Bunty Afoa, Tom Ale, Iszac Fa'asuamaleaui, Viliami Fifita, Wiremu Greig, Siliva Havili, Jack Hetherington, Jaiyden Hunt, Corey Jensen, Josh Kerr, David Klemmer, Ben Liyou, Jordan Martin, Jordan McLean, Shaquai Mitchell, Davvy Moale, Mark Nicholls, Josh Papalii, Toafofoa Sipley, Daniel Suluka-Fifita, Siosiua Taukeiaho, Lazarus Vaalepu, Michael Waqaaui

Second-row
Jacob Alick-Wiencke, Fletcher Baker, Kenneath Bromwich, Ethan Bullemor, Billy Burns, Raymond Faitala-Mariner, Thomas Fletcher, Ryan Foran, Mavrik Geyer, Jack Gosiewski, Harrison Hassett, Jacob Host, Felise Kaufusi, Ativalu Lisati, Ben Lovett, Dean Matterson, Preston Riki, Jamal Shibasaki, Brandon Tumeth

The highlighter guy is from the dogs. He may be available because they bought someone from Newcastle
 
Dr_Ice said:
KPP does have a point of difference in that he has a lot of skill and a good offload. While not explosive off the mark, reasonably quick in the clear
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I agree.
I’m happy with us signing KPP and I’m very happy to have Samuela Fainu along with his brothers within our playing roster, but just making the point that neither of them have explosive speed off the mark which most rival NRL clubs have within at least one of their edge back rowers.
If we had plenty of speed in our backline it probably wouldn’t matter too much, but we don’t have genuine speed in our backline either.
 
Vicious said:
Assuming we either re-sign and keep Adam Doueihi at 13, or we sign a 13 from somewhere, it would then leave us with middle forwards in Terrell May and either Alex Twal or Fonua Pole starting, one of them on the bench with Sione Fainu, so which one of these players are we dropping to NSW Cup to fit in another established middle forward in ?
Although we were all hoping Royce Hunt would provide some added size, aggression and power ball running which has not eventuated, I wouldn’t say any of the 4 above mentioned players struggle to make decent metres when running the ball.
I think it’s been quite clear it’s our lack of impact on the edges which has been our main problem in the forwards. As pointed out by many, it could be a problem within our structure in how we are or how we are not using our edge forwards, as it cannot be a coincidence that whoever we play there seems to struggle to make an impact.
Samuela Fainu was obviously our player of the year playing on our left edge on 2024, but apart from the Roosters game he has not really made much of impact this season.
There is no doubt Samuela is a quality young player with plenty of improvement to come, but is he best suited to an edge or maybe a move back to the middle where he mostly played as a junior coming through ?
Either way I think it’s quite clear we need someone with a point of difference being speed and footwork on one of our edges, we are virtually the only NRL team who doesn’t have anyone with these attributes on at least one edge,
This being the case and Sanuela potentially moving into our middles rotation with KPP’s arrival on the right and Alex Seyfarth also in the mix for our middles bench rotation, do we really need another high quality highly paid middle, or do we need a high quality edge with speed and footwork and another lower cost depth middle to add competition to the middles we already have ?
In saying all of this and with a recent comment from Josh Kerr that although he really wants to stay with the Dolphins, it does not appear a decent contract renewal is coming from them, therefore he might have to move rather than selling himself short.
Based on his form this season he would be the ideal impact big man we need, but we probably need to find a way to first offload Royce Hunt before we can fit him in,
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We don’t need to really off load hunt we got 2 million or there about in cap money and heaps off free spots
 
Chunk said:
We need big strong forwards before anything else. The lists below are form Zero Tackle. They are players off contract at the end of 2025.

I don't know who the better players are but the point is, maybe we could jag a couple of these guys who could go to another level or already have what ot takes.

Props
Bunty Afoa, Tom Ale, Iszac Fa'asuamaleaui, Viliami Fifita, Wiremu Greig, Siliva Havili, Jack Hetherington, Jaiyden Hunt, Corey Jensen, Josh Kerr, David Klemmer, Ben Liyou, Jordan Martin, Jordan McLean, Shaquai Mitchell, Davvy Moale, Mark Nicholls, Josh Papalii, Toafofoa Sipley, Daniel Suluka-Fifita, Siosiua Taukeiaho, Lazarus Vaalepu, Michael Waqaaui

Second-row
Jacob Alick-Wiencke, Fletcher Baker, Kenneath Bromwich, Ethan Bullemor, Billy Burns, Raymond Faitala-Mariner, Thomas Fletcher, Ryan Foran, Mavrik Geyer, Jack Gosiewski, Harrison Hassett, Jacob Host, Felise Kaufusi, Ativalu Lisati, Ben Lovett, Dean Matterson, Preston Riki, Jamal Shibasaki, Brandon Tumeth

The highlighter guy is from the dogs. He may be available because they bought someone from Newcastle
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I would go for David Klemmer and Tumeth.
 
bptiger 0 said:
We don’t need to really off load hunt we got 2 million or there about in cap money and heaps off free spots
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Apparently so, but someone like Josh Kerr or Lazarus Valeapu or even Josh Papali’i would be a low minutes impact middle forward, which is effectively what we hoped Hunt would be.
So in a perfect world, we convince Hunt to move to the UK Super League and we sign someone else to replace him and still leave room for a couple of high quality signings.
 
Chunk said:
We need big strong forwards before anything else. The lists below are form Zero Tackle. They are players off contract at the end of 2025.

I don't know who the better players are but the point is, maybe we could jag a couple of these guys who could go to another level or already have what ot takes.

Props
Bunty Afoa, Tom Ale, Iszac Fa'asuamaleaui, Viliami Fifita, Wiremu Greig, Siliva Havili, Jack Hetherington, Jaiyden Hunt, Corey Jensen, Josh Kerr, David Klemmer, Ben Liyou, Jordan Martin, Jordan McLean, Shaquai Mitchell, Davvy Moale, Mark Nicholls, Josh Papalii, Toafofoa Sipley, Daniel Suluka-Fifita, Siosiua Taukeiaho, Lazarus Vaalepu, Michael Waqaaui

Second-row
Jacob Alick-Wiencke, Fletcher Baker, Kenneath Bromwich, Ethan Bullemor, Billy Burns, Raymond Faitala-Mariner, Thomas Fletcher, Ryan Foran, Mavrik Geyer, Jack Gosiewski, Harrison Hassett, Jacob Host, Felise Kaufusi, Ativalu Lisati, Ben Lovett, Dean Matterson, Preston Riki, Jamal Shibasaki, Brandon Tumeth

The highlighter guy is from the dogs. He may be available because they bought someone from Newcastle
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I like ur pick , he is a monster
 
The Chad said:
This love affair with Bullemor is baffling. He's a bench player for every club he has gone to, and he's not exactly bashing the door down for selection at the Sea Eagles despite losing both Aloia & Paseka for the season.

The much laughed at suggestion of Jack Hetherington....well, the Sea Eagles nearly signed Hetherington for the rest of this season.

Put the Bullemor fantasy in context with the Hetherington reality.

I'd take Tof Sipley over Bullemor for contract value alone.

Hetherington brings a presence on the field. What are you adding Bullemor for compared to what Pole & Sione Fainu already bring? Who in our pack do we look to for outright aggression when we are getting beaten up?

Adding names instead of abilities is probably where the club has gone wrong over the last few years.

I still think Jaiyden Hunt from the Broncos could add some size & power to the squad as one of those 25-30 roster spot guys. Plays pretty much any forward position, so handy off the bench.
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Yeah I rate Jayden hunt, not Hymel hunt.

Jayden plays for wynnum in q cup - plays it hard, tough bugger
 
Chunk said:
We need big strong forwards before anything else. The lists below are form Zero Tackle. They are players off contract at the end of 2025.

I don't know who the better players are but the point is, maybe we could jag a couple of these guys who could go to another level or already have what ot takes.

Props
Bunty Afoa, Tom Ale, Iszac Fa'asuamaleaui, Viliami Fifita, Wiremu Greig, Siliva Havili, Jack Hetherington, Jaiyden Hunt, Corey Jensen, Josh Kerr, David Klemmer, Ben Liyou, Jordan Martin, Jordan McLean, Shaquai Mitchell, Davvy Moale, Mark Nicholls, Josh Papalii, Toafofoa Sipley, Daniel Suluka-Fifita, Siosiua Taukeiaho, Lazarus Vaalepu, Michael Waqaaui

Second-row
Jacob Alick-Wiencke, Fletcher Baker, Kenneath Bromwich, Ethan Bullemor, Billy Burns, Raymond Faitala-Mariner, Thomas Fletcher, Ryan Foran, Mavrik Geyer, Jack Gosiewski, Harrison Hassett, Jacob Host, Felise Kaufusi, Ativalu Lisati, Ben Lovett, Dean Matterson, Preston Riki, Jamal Shibasaki, Brandon Tumeth

The highlighter guy is from the dogs. He may be available because they bought someone from Newcastle
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DSF and Bullemor would be very handy pickups.
 
batboy said:
Funny thing that
- When the last halfback we had was here there was no problem with the Forward Pack at all (?)
Now the pack is the best it's been in a Decade - and everyone is realising we're still not getting enough out of the forwards 😂😂😂 (ps: Not a shot at you Bud, am agreeing with you)

Who was the last Middle Forward we had that scared someone?
Blokes like Leniu, Fisher Harris, Warea Hargraves - That Dominance and Aggression
Love it!
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People are suggesting Ellis. Probably true. Maybe Daine Laurie to a degree. (The forward, not the guy currently at the Panthers)

Thing is- naming Ellis is missing the point. Who cares when the LAST one actually was? When is our NEXT one?

As a club, the Tigers do not bully anyone, they rarely dominate in tackles, there's nobody that makes the guy running the ball up take a look to try to avoid a tackle...when we need a momentum shift, the club lacks someone to instigate it.

We have a number of pretty good quality forwards.

We have no forward enforcer. We rarely, if ever, win at the ruck.
 
weststigers said:
8 line breaks, 9 tries, 7 try assists from 15 games.
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James Schiller is leading the NRL for line breaks and he’s currently in NSW Cup.
Clayton Fualalo has made more than 1 line break per game while playing NRL this season and he’s also currently in NSW Cup.
On a positive note Taylan May made 8 tackle breaks against the Titans and based on that he leads the NRL for average tackle breaks per game,
 
Vicious said:
James Schiller is leading the NRL for line breaks and he’s currently in NSW Cup.
Clayton Fualalo has made more than 1 line break per game while playing NRL this season and he’s also currently in NSW Cup.
On a positive note Taylan May made 8 tackle breaks against the Titans and based on that he leads the NRL for average tackle breaks per game,
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Schiller is a winger and so is Fualalo. Also you pick and choose your averages when Fualalo has played less that half the games and has zero try assists. You conveniently forgot that in your averages.

What the hell are you talking about? Why didn't you just compare To'a and I Katoa while you were at it?

Jeez you have some weird takes on the game.
 
The Dragons have confirmed the signings of twin 16-year-olds Alexander and Cornelius Pupualii in a major retention blow for the Penrith Panthers. The Pupualii twins are Panthers juniors, and highly-rated prospects.

Cornelius is a 193cm-tall centre weighing in at 100kg, who the Dragons view as a long-term member of their back-line. Alexander is a 119kg second-rower, who has unfortunately missed all junior footy this season due to an ACL injury.

These are the type of signings we should be making, not has-beens and also rans.
 
Chunk said:
We need big strong forwards before anything else. The lists below are form Zero Tackle. They are players off contract at the end of 2025.

I don't know who the better players are but the point is, maybe we could jag a couple of these guys who could go to another level or already have what ot takes.

Props
Bunty Afoa, Tom Ale, Iszac Fa'asuamaleaui, Viliami Fifita, Wiremu Greig, Siliva Havili, Jack Hetherington, Jaiyden Hunt, Corey Jensen, Josh Kerr, David Klemmer, Ben Liyou, Jordan Martin, Jordan McLean, Shaquai Mitchell, Davvy Moale, Mark Nicholls, Josh Papalii, Toafofoa Sipley, Daniel Suluka-Fifita, Siosiua Taukeiaho, Lazarus Vaalepu, Michael Waqaaui

Second-row
Jacob Alick-Wiencke, Fletcher Baker, Kenneath Bromwich, Ethan Bullemor, Billy Burns, Raymond Faitala-Mariner, Thomas Fletcher, Ryan Foran, Mavrik Geyer, Jack Gosiewski, Harrison Hassett, Jacob Host, Felise Kaufusi, Ativalu Lisati, Ben Lovett, Dean Matterson, Preston Riki, Jamal Shibasaki, Brandon Tumeth

The highlighter guy is from the dogs. He may be available because they bought someone from Newcastle
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Slim pickings. Bullemore & Sipley both have upside.
 
BAGNF05 said:
Slim pickings. Bullemore & Sipley both have upside.
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Yeah that's the point, it may seem like slim pickings but they're would have to be a number of these guys who could do a very good job. That bulldogs could be one of them, he seemed to go alright
 
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