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They’re paying for Dodd still
Smith is on $650k - API $700k
Latrell 1.1m
Murray 1.1m
Wighton 850k
Keon, Arrow, Campbell Graham, Tatola all on $700k

The rest you’ve speculated - their roster is top heavy compared to ours. Just a different way of salary cap management
I think the issue is that people really don't understand what the Cap is these days and just how much salaries have changed so quickly in the last 5 years. Ive spoken to someone at another club about this a few times and how its structured by teams over a 1-5 year period.

Gone are the days where a team could afford maybe one or two 1mil+ players. Most teams also structure their cap very differently these days. Teams either take a top heavy approach with 5 or 6 players on 900k+ (like Souths or Manly) or more balanced with most of the roster on 600-800k (like us, Sharks or Dogs). How teams do it is just based on their personnel, luck with gun juniors and ability to recruit the best of the best.

Most agents and players are now are pushing for contracts based on a % of the cap rather than a specific number like (800k one year and 850k the next) because of the massive jump in the cap lately and the extra 24million coming into the market from expansion teams, creating more demand and higher prices. Thats why its so beneficial to sign players like Twal etc on 3-4 year extensions with the same salary each year now, because his 450k in 2026 is 3.75-4% of the total cap, but in 2030 his 450k will probably only be a 2.75-3% cap hit. It saves money and cap room in the long run. Especially with contracts in that lower to mid tier range, because they're easier to flip to other teams or super league if the player stops performing.

I find that most the comments on here when a player signs for say 800k are along the lines of "hes not worth 800K! hes worth 650k max". However the 800k is essentially the same amount (%) on the cap as 650k was in 2023. People just simply don't understand the cap and how much the dollar amounts are worth as a percentage on the cap.
 
I think the issue is that people really don't understand what the Cap is these days and just how much salaries have changed so quickly in the last 5 years. Ive spoken to someone at another club about this a few times and how its structured by teams over a 1-5 year period.

Gone are the days where a team could afford maybe one or two 1mil+ players. Most teams also structure their cap very differently these days. Teams either take a top heavy approach with 5 or 6 players on 900k+ (like Souths or Manly) or more balanced with most of the roster on 600-800k (like us, Sharks or Dogs). How teams do it is just based on their personnel, luck with gun juniors and ability to recruit the best of the best.

Most agents and players are now are pushing for contracts based on a % of the cap rather than a specific number like (800k one year and 850k the next) because of the massive jump in the cap lately and the extra 24million coming into the market from expansion teams, creating more demand and higher prices. Thats why its so beneficial to sign players like Twal etc on 3-4 year extensions with the same salary each year now, because his 450k in 2026 is 3.75-4% of the total cap, but in 2030 his 450k will probably only be a 2.75-3% cap hit. It saves money and cap room in the long run. Especially with contracts in that lower to mid tier range, because they're easier to flip to other teams or super league if the player stops performing.

I find that most the comments on here when a player signs for say 800k are along the lines of "hes not worth 800K! hes worth 650k max". However the 800k is essentially the same amount (%) on the cap as 650k was in 2023. People just simply don't understand the cap and how much the dollar amounts are worth as a percentage on the cap.
Exactly mate nailed it
 
I find that most the comments on here when a player signs for say 800k are along the lines of "hes not worth 800K! hes worth 650k max". However the 800k is essentially the same amount (%) on the cap as 650k was in 2023. People just simply don't understand the cap and how much the dollar amounts are worth as a percentage on the cap.

The Cap has not changed a lot from 2023 to 2026 it’s about 5-6% … your maths is off here …


What will really move the Cap is the new TV deal which will apply from 2028…. It is expected to be a lot more than the expiring TV deal which was a roll over of the previous deal… they haven’t had a bump in the TV deal for 10 years
 
The Cap has not changed a lot from 2023 to 2026 it’s about 5-6% … your maths is off here …


What will really move the Cap is the new TV deal which will apply from 2028…. It is expected to be a lot more than the expiring TV deal which was a roll over of the previous deal… they haven’t had a bump in the TV deal for 10 years
That was the point I was trying to make, with the new TV deal and new teams. Probably could have explained it better. 2023 wasnt meant to be a specific example or percentage, more the mindset that was around what figures meant back then and even the 3-5 years prior (2020 or 2021 would have been a better example). For example, Melbourne had 3 players on 1mil+ back in the mid 2010s.

For context, Cap in the following years:

2012: $4.4 million (Melbourne Storm Era)
2019: $9.6 million (Start of Penrith Era)
2026: $12 million (approx) (Current)
 
That was the point I was trying to make, with the new TV deal and new teams. Probably could have explained it better. 2023 wasnt meant to be a specific example or percentage, more the mindset that was around what figures meant back then and even the 3-5 years prior (2020 or 2021 would have been a better example). For example, Melbourne had 3 players on 1mil+ back in the mid 2010s.

For context, Cap in the following years:

2012: $4.4 million (Melbourne Storm Era)
2019: $9.6 million (Start of Penrith Era)
2026: $12 million (approx) (Current)

Yeah … it will move heaps … in 2028 …even the non Broadcast revenue has increased a lot the past few years

The Storm had three pretty handy players in the early 2010s getting that million each … I suspect they would play it the same way today if they were still around …😎
 
They’re paying for Dodd still
Smith is on $650k - API $700k
Latrell 1.1m
Murray 1.1m
Wighton 850k
Keon, Arrow, Campbell Graham, Tatola all on $700k

The rest you’ve speculated - their roster is top heavy compared to ours. Just a different way of salary cap management
Yeah they are stupidly top heavy, we saw what happened to them last year with all their injuries, you cant win a premiership like that, way too much risk.
Storm, Chooks, Panthers pay their spine big bucks and everyone else a league average. Thats how you stay consistent
 
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