Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Halbrowne61]

I totally agree Benji the man manager. But his coaching ability is questionable.
Needs an assistant coach who can overrule Benji's calls at times and can devise various offensive plans in the red zone. They are so predictable and easily defended.
Bula doing a run around after a scum has been worked to death, and he can't break a tackle.
Some set up plays from grubbers is as rare as hens' teeth. The forwards continue to hinder any attack.

Well I hope he can man manage his players into being g who they are.
Remember, as B says” that’s not who we are “ !

 

[mtd#2]

Maybe we can bring him back in an advisory role to see if he can find us few more players to sign or re-sign for 200-300k above their true value.

Maybe we can all put some money together to send you and your director mate to therapy for having a problem with the NRL's greatest administrator.

I guess when you are mediocre you are bound to be insecure, hence why you guys don't like him. But the therapist can help you guys with that

 

[Vicious]

Maybe we can all put some money together to send you and your director mate to therapy for having a problem with the NRL's greatest administrator.

I guess when you are mediocre you are bound to be insecure, hence why you guys don't like him. But the therapist can help you guys with that

Where have I ever said I don’t like him ?
He is probably a lovely bloke, just has no idea how to put a top 8 roster together.
Don’t tell me about the other clubs, he had next to no involvement in recruitment at those clubs, but like a good used car salesman he has fooled people like yourself into believing he did.

 

[batboy]

I totally agree Benji the man manager. But his coaching ability is questionable.
Needs an assistant coach who can overrule Benji's calls at times and can devise various offensive plans in the red zone. They are so predictable and easily defended.
Bula doing a run around after a scum has been worked to death, and he can't break a tackle.
Some set up plays from grubbers is as rare as hens' teeth. The forwards continue to hinder any attack.

After 20-25 years involved in the club, it seems to me that Benji always gets what Benji wants.

 

[Vicious]

After 20-25 years involved in the club, it seems to me that Benji always gets what Benji wants.

Well we had Scott Fulton who added his expertise and signed the Fainu brothers for us, but someone sacked him.

 

[mtd#2]

Where have I ever said I don’t like him ?
He is probably a lovely bloke, just has no idea how to put a top 8 roster together.
Don’t tell me about the other clubs, he had next to no involvement in recruitment at those clubs, but like a good used car salesman he has fooled people like yourself into believing he did.

We've had the best recruitment in recent years under his watch. Its not easy when the base is so low and you are trying to recruit into a dogshit club with the owners having as much stability as family of refugees standing on a wooden door floating in the middle of the ocean during a tsunami.

Remind me champion, when were CEOs soley responsible for recruitment? Most NRL clubs have resources to have dedicated people to do that for them. I wonder why we are so under resourced? Oh that's right... We don't get the same funding from our owners as other clubs

Again, you look at a symptom and not the cause. 👏👏

 

[Vicious]

We've had the best recruitment in recent years under his watch. Its not easy when the base is so low and you are trying to recruit into a dogshit club with the owners having as much stability as family of refugees standing on a wooden door floating in the middle of the ocean in the middle of a tsunami.

Remind me champion, when were CEOs soley responsible for recruitment? Most NRL clubs have resources to have dedicated people to do that for them. I wonder why we are so under resourced? Oh that's right... We don't get the same funding from our owners as other clubs

Again, you look at a symptom and not the cause. 👏👏

The Fainu’s were recruited by Scott Fulton, Terrell May by Benji with a little bit of help from Jarome.
We got Jarome for 300k above his true value. You could sign just about anyone off contract if prepared to give them that much of a mark up.
Similar with Turuva, who else but us were going to pay him 450k ?
Taylan May was unwanted by Richo, thank god Benji persisted and finally got approval to sign him.
KPP stated he was approached/contacted by Benji.
So what outstanding recruitment are you referring to ?

 

[TheEnz]

The Fainu’s were recruited by Scott Fulton, Terrell May by Benji with a little bit of help from Jarome.
We got Jarome for 300k above his true value. You could sign just about anyone off contract if prepared to give them that much of a mark up.
Similar with Turuva, who else but us were going to pay him 450k ?
Taylan May was unwanted by Richo, thank god Benji persisted and finally got approval to sign him.
KPP stated he was approached/contacted by Benji.
So what outstanding recruitment are you referring to ?

I would argue that we signed these guys for market value (as opposed to real value), ppl like Jerome had plenty of desperate suitors and Chiefs have paid him what we are (+ tax free component) another team would have picked up Bula, especially after Goulds Creamy comments and the form line he was showing at the time. Turuva had just won rookie of the year (beating Bula to it) and is an exceptional WINGER and serviceable back up FB. The reality between market value and value based on on-field contribution are often two very different things.

 

[Chunk]

From our run on 13...
Our spine is Top 8 in the comp
Our three quarters are Bottom 8
Our edge backrowers are Top 5 in the comp
Our middle three is Top 10 in the comp

Disagree

Our spine? Bula is one of the worst fullbacks in the comp, APi is old, Luai is average
Backrowers. KPP is just average compared other backrowers, go through the teams. And Fanui has plenty to prove, still. The top 5 in the comp, no way. Bottom 5
Middle is a our strength. Pole can be a very good play along with May and Twal
Backline is okay. Centres are good May is potentially our best player and hopefully Averillo plays well.
Our wingers are average

And what about the coaching staff and general resources available

 

[Lestronge]

everyone needs to chill the F out . The simple amount of chopping and changing has killed our season . So much inconsistency and losing both our strike weapons in the edges , means teams simply can shift off onto Sukkar and Sione, as Sione goes most of his best work post collision and Sukkar atm is more for defence : his motor for nrl isn’t quite there yet .
Obviously Masi has been over exposed to nrl and should spend the rest of the year dominating lesser players in KOE.
But once again that’s another change . Injuries have brutalised our season / IMO playing madden for most of the year has killed us. He’s a stop gap for a few games , but when you’re forced to play those players for more than a few games you might as well right your season off .
You could say we should have played Latu more , but my guess is the club just wanted him to get through a whole season unscathed , whilst giving him as much nrl exposure as possible . He will be another who probably sees out the year in Cup .
With May out , I’d be looking at Saukuru and Tupou to replace Masi and and Toa . With Bula , Skelton, Saukuru , Tupou , Turuva , and hopefully those guys can stay on the field .
Moving Sione back to the middle will be a godsend as well .
We’ve also been hammered by weird HIA calls where we’ve had illegal play take out one of our backs and it not called but the independent doctor say it is foul play and a hia, which absolutely destroys our bench as we now have to rotate a back instead of our traditional rotation .
And due to lack of depth because we have middles playing edge , it kills our bench rotation . So a lot of little things are killing us .

 

[Betterdays22]

everyone needs to chill the F out . The simple amount of chopping and changing has killed our season . So much inconsistency and losing both our strike weapons in the edges , means teams simply can shift off onto Sukkar and Sione, as Sione goes most of his best work post collision and Sukkar atm is more for defence : his motor for nrl isn’t quite there yet .
Obviously Masi has been over exposed to nrl and should spend the rest of the year dominating lesser players in KOE.
But once again that’s another change . Injuries have brutalised our season / IMO playing madden for most of the year has killed us. He’s a stop gap for a few games , but when you’re forced to play those players for more than a few games you might as well right your season off .
You could say we should have played Latu more , but my guess is the club just wanted him to get through a whole season unscathed , whilst giving him as much nrl exposure as possible . He will be another who probably sees out the year in Cup .
With May out , I’d be looking at Saukuru and Tupou to replace Masi and and Toa . With Bula , Skelton, Saukuru , Tupou , Turuva , and hopefully those guys can stay on the field .
Moving Sione back to the middle will be a godsend as well .
We’ve also been hammered by weird HIA calls where we’ve had illegal play take out one of our backs and it not called but the independent doctor say it is foul play and a hia, which absolutely destroys our bench as we now have to rotate a back instead of our traditional rotation .
And due to lack of depth because we have middles playing edge , it kills our bench rotation . So a lot of little things are killing us .

Just insert excuse here and copy and paste from previous seasons.

Its not the fact we have lost, but the way we have lost, basically since Canberra. Soft options, insipid attack, braindead discipline. Plenty of other teams have had injuries to key players and given much better accounts of themselves.

Havent Dogs gone 5/6 without their backrowers?

 

[Bellend]

everyone needs to chill the F out . The simple amount of chopping and changing has killed our season . So much inconsistency and losing both our strike weapons in the edges , means teams simply can shift off onto Sukkar and Sione, as Sione goes most of his best work post collision and Sukkar atm is more for defence : his motor for nrl isn’t quite there yet .
Obviously Masi has been over exposed to nrl and should spend the rest of the year dominating lesser players in KOE.
But once again that’s another change . Injuries have brutalised our season / IMO playing madden for most of the year has killed us. He’s a stop gap for a few games , but when you’re forced to play those players for more than a few games you might as well right your season off .
You could say we should have played Latu more , but my guess is the club just wanted him to get through a whole season unscathed , whilst giving him as much nrl exposure as possible . He will be another who probably sees out the year in Cup .
With May out , I’d be looking at Saukuru and Tupou to replace Masi and and Toa . With Bula , Skelton, Saukuru , Tupou , Turuva , and hopefully those guys can stay on the field .
Moving Sione back to the middle will be a godsend as well .
We’ve also been hammered by weird HIA calls where we’ve had illegal play take out one of our backs and it not called but the independent doctor say it is foul play and a hia, which absolutely destroys our bench as we now have to rotate a back instead of our traditional rotation .
And due to lack of depth because we have middles playing edge , it kills our bench rotation . So a lot of little things are killing us .

you need to add basic skills that have also derailed our year, no strong kicking game, poor tackling ,poor passing, these skills should have been drummed into our club from the start of the year.

 

[mtd#2]

So it’s that easy, we simply find a private owner who will til in plenty of extra money every year, not want their opinion to count and all of a sudden our recruitment and retention will become significantly better, our coach will instantly start making better decisions and get better results and our on field results will improve significantly ?
Let’s just click our fingers and get it done, it sounds so easy.

Finding a private owner is the easiest part of them all. If could have 2 potential buyers lined up for discussions by the end of the week without much trouble.

The hard part is convincing HBG to give it up. Someone could offer them $100million and they still wouldn't do it. It isnt about money for them, its about control.

 

[Wezt]

everyone needs to chill the F out . The simple amount of chopping and changing has killed our season . So much inconsistency and losing both our strike weapons in the edges , means teams simply can shift off onto Sukkar and Sione, as Sione goes most of his best work post collision and Sukkar atm is more for defence : his motor for nrl isn’t quite there yet .
Obviously Masi has been over exposed to nrl and should spend the rest of the year dominating lesser players in KOE.
But once again that’s another change . Injuries have brutalised our season / IMO playing madden for most of the year has killed us. He’s a stop gap for a few games , but when you’re forced to play those players for more than a few games you might as well right your season off .
You could say we should have played Latu more , but my guess is the club just wanted him to get through a whole season unscathed , whilst giving him as much nrl exposure as possible . He will be another who probably sees out the year in Cup .
With May out , I’d be looking at Saukuru and Tupou to replace Masi and and Toa . With Bula , Skelton, Saukuru , Tupou , Turuva , and hopefully those guys can stay on the field .
Moving Sione back to the middle will be a godsend as well .
We’ve also been hammered by weird HIA calls where we’ve had illegal play take out one of our backs and it not called but the independent doctor say it is foul play and a hia, which absolutely destroys our bench as we now have to rotate a back instead of our traditional rotation .
And due to lack of depth because we have middles playing edge , it kills our bench rotation . So a lot of little things are killing us .

I get the injuries but we had all the field position in the world against the Knights and Dragons and couldn’t score to save our lives

Depth should still be able to play some structure in attack but even when we had all our players fit, we looked clunky there. This is a coaching issue

 

[Vicious]

Finding a private owner is the easiest part of them all. If could have 2 potential buyers lined up for discussions by the end of the week without much trouble.

The hard part is convincing HBG to give it up. Someone could offer them $100million and they still wouldn't do it. It isnt about money for them, its about control.

If private ownership guaranteed regular top 8 finishes that woukd be great.
I don’t think it is as near as simple as you seem to think it is.

 

[mtd#2]

If private ownership guaranteed regular top 8 finishes that woukd be great.
I don’t think it is as near as simple as you seem to think it is.

I assure you, it would be far simpler without the politics of having HBG involved where the #1 focus is soley the Wests tigers brand across all grades.. Instead of the current set up where magpies are the priority and Wests tigers are #2

 

[Vicious]

I assure you, it would be far simpler without the politics of having HBG involved where the #1 focus is soley the Wests tigers brand across all grades.. Instead of the current set up where magpies are the priority and Wests tigers are #2

For the past 6 months you are virtually the only one who keeps bringing it up as a focus point.
I blame poor recruitment and retention on the people who are doing the recruitment and retention.
I blame bad coaching decisions or bad coaching on the coach,
I blame below standard onfield performances on the players who are performing below standard.
Other things you seem to want to keep bringing up may be far from ideal, but the onfield results directly relate to recruitment and retention which forms the playing roster and the decision making and coaching from the coach.
If we could swap our 1-5 with the likes of the Knights or Dolphins we would be siting comfortably in the top 4 and we would not be having this discussion.

 

[batboy]

For the past 6 months you are virtually the only one who keeps bringing it up as a focus point.
I blame poor recruitment and retention on the people who are doing the recruitment and retention.
I blame bad coaching decisions or bad coaching on the coach,
I blame below standard onfield performances on the players who are performing below standard.
Other things you seem to want to keep bringing up may be far from ideal, but the onfield results directly relate to recruitment and retention which forms the playing roster and the decision making and coaching from the coach.
If we could swap our 1-5 with the likes of the Knights or Dolphins we would be siting comfortably in the top 4 and we would not be having this discussion.

If only the owners would pay for a decent recruitment and retention staff member…
Or have bought a decent coach instead of a poster boy.

Whatever you think about However the football program is being run, it’s being allowed to be run that way by owners who have no idea how to have a football program run - despite the 120 odd years of history they keep reminding us of.

 

[Vicious]

If only the owners would pay for a decent recruitment and retention staff member…
Or have bought a decent coach instead of a poster boy.

Whatever you think about However the football program is being run, it’s being allowed to be run that way by owners who have no idea how to have a football program run - despite the 120 odd years of history they keep reminding us of.

No argument with what you are saying, but private ownership does not guarantee it will be any better.
The Gold Coast Titans are privately owned aren’t they ?

 

[jirskyr]

Fittest team in the comp after 8 rounds
Playing like a top 4team
Look the complete opposite now
What’s happened?

No depth. Could not afford key injuries and some of our main players have been very brittle 2026.

We've used 30 players this year, which is a bad run; I think Broncos are the worst with 32, also Parramatta. No surprise these are the worst performing teams.

Panthers have used something like 24 players and that includes coverage for many Origin players, about which Tigers cannot claim.