Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

hammertime said:
It's not changing the owner entity, it's better and accountable directors. HBG can own it, but we need better on the board, like the review recommended.

You want to improve the roster? How about we have people as connected as Nick polities there for life after footy. Or how about we have stability there so people want to sign with us?

Start with our directors not being sub-standard. Or you'll relegate us to this same shit for another 15 years. Think of the hole we're back in now and how that all started.
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I wish someone like Arthur Laundy would buy the club to expose the lies and culture that has infiltrated the club and brainwashed a large chunk of our fans.
 
Vicious said:
I wish someone like Arthur Laundy would buy the club to expose the lies and culture that has infiltrated the club and brainwashed a large chunk of our fans.
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HBG might not be willing to sell up for financial reasons but if the guys running HBG get hammered enough in the media i think theyll do whatever they can to rid themselves of it so they stop making themselves look poor in the public eye. Theyre that egotistical.
 
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I really hope they don't fire Benji. Feels like another knee-jerk reaction. Like getting into one fight with your spouse and getting a divorce.

The first half of the year showed he can get his players up to compete with the best. There will always be drama but we need stability and maturity. Really hope everyone keeps a level head. Maybe that's too much to ask.
 
liltiger said:
HBG might not be willing to sell up for financial reasons but if the guys running HBG get hammered enough in the media i think theyll do whatever they can to rid themselves of it so they stop making themsrlves look poor in the public eye. Theyre that egotistical.
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They dont care.
They just hide in the shadows like rheyre doing at this very moment
 
liltiger said:
HBG might not be willing to sell up for financial reasons but if the guys running HBG get hammered enough in the media i think theyll do whatever they can to rid themselves of it so they stop making themsrlves look poor in the public eye. Theyre that egotistical.
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The problem is that they aren't. All of this drama is being directed at the coach, the players, or the CEO. The ownership, again, is sliding by with absolutely no accountability.

We have to get to a breaking point. We tried during the offseason, that fell apart, simple as that. I don't care that some changes were agreed upon, it was a band aid solution to a problem that has existed for far too long.

We have changed players, wer have changed coaches, we have changed ceo's, we have changed backroom staff. Only two constants remain. The fans, who can only support what is put forward, and the owners.

This is the time we need to stand up again, I don't care if Darcy is involved or not this time. The fans and members need to speak up and force change now. We cannot keep this absolute s*** show going, it is painful for all, and just a rinse and repeat of the past. Competent leaders could see this and make changes, it has happened elsewhere, but never for us. Those leaders need to now go, and be replaced by those who care, those who want to see success, those who want the pride back, not just to have a tax break, not just to make money, or not just to have power that they waste.

Garry, Steve, Rob, and everyone that was involved in the last rally, we need you up and at it again, and this time, no backing down until HBG are gone for good.
 
Tiger Tarl said:
I really hope they don't fire Benji. Feels like another knee-jerk reaction. Like getting into one fight with your spouse and getting a divorce.

The first half of the year showed he can get his players up to compete with the best. There will always be drama but we need stability and maturity. Really hope everyone keeps a level head. Maybe that's too much to ask.
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He’s delivered us two spoons, a probable second last. Has played no finals and no finals on the horizon. And he’s had a player walk out on him every season. What ties you to him bar emotion based on who he is? If his name was Jim Dymock, he’d be public enemy number one among the supporters.
 
What people need to look at this situation is have we really moved forward as a club on off the field?? Answer is no the great start to the year only band aided the problem, our coaching structure is poor and mismanaged, our playing style is poor and has not got better and Benji.

In a business sense we should have released Luai June 30th, because media mess has created to many holes that can not be sealed back up.
 
bbobb said:
I don’t think there is just one issue to contend with and I don’t know what’s the most damaging, but trying to emulate 05 by exclusively hiring them into coaching and management roles into the club doesn’t seem to be a great strategy.
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100%.
We've paid a high price for the win in 05.
Get a professional coach in and remove all the ghosts of 05. No Sheens, Robbie, or Benji. We need to move on. We may still face the ownership & board issues but we've got to fix the things we can.
 
Bellend said:
What people need to look at this situation is have we really moved forward as a club on off the field?? Answer is no the great start to the year only band aided the problem, our coaching structure is poor and mismanaged, our playing style is poor and has not got better and Benji.

In a business sense we should have released Luai June 30th, because media mess has created to many holes that can not be sealed back up.
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The doomsayers are quick to point out everything that’s wrong but what’s your solution?

Seibold and another rebuild?

Chill.
 
Craegus said:
The problem is that they aren't. All of this drama is being directed at the coach, the players, or the CEO. The ownership, again, is sliding by with absolutely no accountability.

We have to get to a breaking point. We tried during the offseason, that fell apart, simple as that. I don't care that some changes were agreed upon, it was a band aid solution to a problem that has existed for far too long.

We have changed players, wer have changed coaches, we have changed ceo's, we have changed backroom staff. Only two constants remain. The fans, who can only support what is put forward, and the owners.

This is the time we need to stand up again, I don't care if Darcy is involved or not this time. The fans and members need to speak up and force change now. We cannot keep this absolute s*** show going, it is painful for all, and just a rinse and repeat of the past. Competent leaders could see this and make changes, it has happened elsewhere, but never for us. Those leaders need to now go, and be replaced by those who care, those who want to see success, those who want the pride back, not just to have a tax break, not just to make money, or not just to have power that they waste.

Garry, Steve, Rob, and everyone that was involved in the last rally, we need you up and at it again, and this time, no backing down until HBG are gone for good.
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I don't agree at this stage. I think an 'easier' target that would have ramifications would be to end the debenture system. Wouldn't a better management team and structure within the existing club make HBG theoretically work better?
 
magpies forever said:
I don't agree at this stage. I think an 'easier' target that would have ramifications would be to end the debenture system. Wouldn't a better management team and structure within the existing club make HBG theoretically work better?
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Not really. The debenture system is a major problem, but just getting rid of it doesn't mean that there will be change in HBG, as those who have power will still keep it, or even if they do lose some, the time it will take for any significant change to happen will just take too long, or the whole divide between the two side of the JV will remain with a club that is basically one side of it still in control.

We need immediate and drastic change. Something that will give the club a refreshed and new view on the future of the club, with none of the old lingering issues hanging around.
 
magpies forever said:
I don't agree at this stage. I think an 'easier' target that would have ramifications would be to end the debenture system. Wouldn't a better management team and structure within the existing club make HBG theoretically work better?
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It’s only the supporters who advocated for Luai to be signed, Bula, Terrell and Turuva be re-signed at whatever cost and now know they are terrible judges of player talent in way of value for contract dollar, that now think their opinions couldn’t possibly be wrong, so now looking at something else to blame.
 
user118245 said:
So who do we have that can kick field goals? Doueihi was only one at club I think
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Javon can, he can do everything Douhie can do but better and more smoothly .. that what AD couldn’t stand IMO , he saw his replacement being put in and couldn’t handle that he had not cashed in on the vacuum created by the Luai drama to his satisfaction yet
 
EllisFan said:
The doomsayers are quick to point out everything that’s wrong but what’s your solution?

Seibold and another rebuild?

Chill.
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No rebulid is not needed.
The coaching structure is wrong and has been for the last 5 years.
Benji should have been made to do his apprenticeship through the lower grades, have a look at how Josh Hannay, Ben Gardiner, Andrew Webster, Look at how Peter Wallace will when he takes over.
 

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