Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[TigerNeddyK]

I thought Luai played his heart out. Over paid and over rated- YES! But surrounded by mostly slow, mediocre players. He is not a one-man team. And a beaten pack.
Our forward pack lead by May is powder puff stuff at the moment. Stefo on fire.
Coaching Benji style or Bellamy style? And we let Cooper go, both who are better than May.
Our forward pack is out muscled by all the other packs. Light duties after 15 min.
No speed out the back either---centres, wingers and a fullback that can't get passed anyone.
Frustrating is being ever so polite.

That’s pretty much it in a nutshell , though may to me is just a bit tired of carrying the entire pack up the middle .. but yeah Bula cannot make a break at the moment, is not ever running to space from kicks, straight at the nearest defender and submits in the tackle. Turuva is out of form and out of position , the centres are terrible with may out, the wingers are turnstiles that cannot defend a kick and the second row do not run lines and always step in the direction the defence is coming from and never ever pass it to the outside runners .. we have had no penetration or line breaks outside the edges and the forwards got tired of dominating only to see the backs offfer NOTHING

 

[balmain boy]

That's great news. Thans for posting it.

It's not great news.

We needed external recruits not internal promotions. He was already eligible

 

[balmain boy]

But arent we a development club... you know, develop players to make them better...or we just let them walk away

We have never, ever, been a development club.

 

[balmain boy]

The club got it right. He leaks tries like a sieve.

So does every single outside back at the club.

At least Sol can break the line

 

[balmain boy]

lol yes also the bears apologies

benji's contract does not impact salary cap

the 5 years was to bring stability its failed

I do not care if HBG have to pay out big cash to undo one of their biggest stuff ups

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

So does every single outside back at the club.

At least Sol can break the line

When he played wing, the day he scored 4 tries a couple of months ago against the Dogs he let in 2 or 3 but his inside man Fiohiva Siale Fainga'a set him up for all of his tries.

 

[TigerNeddyK]

Well, I think he said he enjoyed six-a-side soccer on the SEN podcast so maybe CEO Mellencamp can find him a gig, given his round ball background.

Would be ideal for Ad , you can kick it up field when no chasers are ready, and do not have to use your shoulders to tackle anybody

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

That’s pretty much it in a nutshell , though may to me is just a bit tired of carrying the entire pack up the middle .. but yeah Bula cannot make a break at the moment, is not ever running to space from kicks, straight at the nearest defender and submits in the tackle. Turuva is out of form and out of position , the centres are terrible with may out, the wingers are turnstiles that cannot defend a kick and the second row do not run lines and always step in the direction the defence is coming from and never ever pass it to the outside runners .. we have had no penetration or line breaks outside the edges and the forwards got tired of dominating only to see the backs offfer NOTHING

So, what you are basically saying is that there is no game plan? Cos I have been wondering why we seem to avoid doing the things that gave us such magic moments. Like when Maka was on the wing and scored 3 tries from great halves play ... oops, from Madden & Javon! Oh dear! Luai has been terrible - not cos our forwards are weak but cos he is watching others do the work. He pulled his finger out on ONE occasion at LO when he scored 3 tries against the almost bottom-feeder Titans. That ought to have set alarm bells ringing. He should be the first player picked for Reggies this weekend.

 

[Merlot]

I do not care if HBG have to pay out big cash to undo one of their biggest stuff ups

The real problem if Benji is payed out in full ,is ,why .?
Where was the clause that after X years you get a % of the remainder .

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

Would be ideal for Ad , you can kick it up field when no chasers are ready, and do not have to use your shoulders to tackle anybody

And his big head is a perfect target from corner kicks.

 

[balmain boy]

With talk of Benji being sacked, I wonder how HE would feel if the club didn't sack him but demoted to assistant coach.

Would keep the playing group on board but could Benji's ego handle it.

If it's good enough for a coach to demote a player and ask that they still buy in let's put it back on Benji and see if he would do what's best for the Wests Tigers

Not to assistant coach. Maybe to a football director role or something. Like what Sheen's did, get some value out of him and he can maybe save face from his embarrassing sacking

 

[balmain boy]

The NRL will love this turmoil. It's outstanding for coverage and ratings. No other code can get a look in because there is always something happening at WTs. We should ask for a bigger slice of the NRL pie - any publicity is good publicity.

Quite the opposite actually. Constant embarrassment makes the league look unprofessional.

 

[Bones]

We have never, ever, been a development club.

Of course we are… we develop them till they’re ready to go to a decent team.

 

[Wezt]

i believe latu at 7 is factored into a new contract

anyway ? i see richo is coming back ?

To us?

 

[Garrry]

Maybe that's why Luai is going to parra next year, he found out Richo is going to parra?

 

[balmain boy]

HBG might not be willing to sell up for financial reasons but if the guys running HBG get hammered enough in the media i think theyll do whatever they can to rid themselves of it so they stop making themselves look poor in the public eye. Theyre that egotistical.

Absolutely. We must make all debenture holders lives an absolute misery. Media campaigns, banners, protests etc

Name and shame them, A Current Affair style!!

 

[weststigers]

Agree in part, but you are nuts to think the licence will automatically remain with Tigers brand. Thats what people who think blow the joint up, and start with a new club & licence forget, it will not be a option in the forefront of any new franchise.

I think the pressure should be put on by NRL to remove the damn debenture system dragging things down

A lot of uneducated fans out there that perpetuate falsehoods like this.

HBG do NOT own the Wests Tigers name and trademark. The ARL owns that.

The NRL could strip the operating license and award a new license to a completely different consortium, allowing that new party to operate a team under the Wests Tigers name and logo.

 

[weststigers]

Nothing is stable about the club atm and Benji has a win rate of like 30%

Yet we accept a similar win rate at Campbelltown. Strange how the mind works.

 

[weststigers]

It’s only the supporters who advocated for Luai to be signed, Bula, Terrell and Turuva be re-signed at whatever cost and now know they are terrible judges of player talent in way of value for contract dollar, that now think their opinions couldn’t possibly be wrong, so now looking at something else to blame.

Excuse me. These extensions were done with board approval no? Seems like all the issues you have are the decisions made under full HBG control. Perhaps time to lay blame where it belongs rather than play out your personal biases here.

 

[weststigers]

I do not care if HBG have to pay out big cash to undo one of their biggest stuff ups

You don't think it's valuable to have Benji at the club in some capacity?