Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Cultured_Bogan]

To think the NRL may assist ESL financially is a reflection of the turnaround in the fortunes of the product under Peter V'landys. He deserves praise for this definitely. Rugby league is entertainment these days so we have to adjust to the product. If the game can become a truly national and also international game (in the UK especially), Peter V'landys will be remembered as one of the great leaders of the NRL.

It's all well and good that PVL is bringing record broadcast deals and the like into the game, but at what cost? The product that is the game itself is arguably the worst it has been.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

As a Test cricket purist, it’s sad to have watched the monster that is 20/20 take over the game. 20/20 was designed to be faster, more exciting, highlight reel cricket. That’s the direction PVL is trying to take league in. If he stays in charge long enough, don’t be surprised to see him outlaw tackling. Not for safety reasons, but tackling will slow the game down too much. Players taking a ball carrier to the ground takes too long. Maybe we’ll be lucky, and defenders will be able to wrap their arms around the ball carrier and the ref will call held.

Commercial success at the expense of the game itself. Anyone who has watched the game for longer than 5 years doesn't like the way it is going.

 

[king_sirro]

That’s not the way broadcasters and the nrl think mate . The whatifs are about driving revenue and ultimately eyeballs . Simple=same old =same old = boring

Thats my whole point. The fabric of the game,, of sport in general is being lost. Eventually it will backfire if it isnt reigned in

 

[Lestronge]

I never said its a shit idea. Ive always wanted 20 teams and 2 conferences, what are you talking about? I said the wild card round is shit.

I would have the conferences decided on placing each year. Odd numbers 1st, 3rd, 5th etc in conference one. Even numbers 2nd, 4th, 6th etc in conference 2.

This keeps the talent fair across the conferences, and doesnt have the same teams always playing each other.

Ok simple misunderstanding on that my bad . I don’t think you can change the conferences like that . It’s hard to build rivalries and ultimately drama if everything changes all the time .
Honestly a division of Tigers, eels, panthers, dogs would be unreal . But 3 of those teams would be in the nrls top 6 supported teams , and other teams having access to the eels , tigers , dogs fanbase would surely be an issue .
I’m pretty confident I’ve got it right though with the balance . The east Sydney teams in one conference , the west Sydney teams in another , although I don’t really like Perth and PNG being in the same conference as that’s hectic travel .

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

The games talent pool bottoms out at 15-16 teams. 17 is pushing it. 18 will be too many. 19 is getting out of hand. 20+ is revenue raising and showing no regard for the quality of the product.

You'd think with the money the game brings in now some of it should be reinvested to ensure there's enough talent coming through to keep the gravy train going and growing.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Commercial success at the expense of the game itself. Anyone who has watched the game for longer than 5 years doesn't like the way it is going.

He has the media under the thumb. No one will dare call out his bullshit. The closest I have seen anyone come to criticising him I was think Andrew Moore. Who made sure to preface it with what a good job he was doing, but said “maybe” PVL could benefit having someone beside him telling him sometimes maybe something isn’t a good idea”

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

He has the media under the thumb. No one will dare call out his bullshit. The closest I have seen anyone come to criticising him I was think Andrew Moore. Who made sure to preface it with what a good job he was doing, but said “maybe” PVL could benefit having someone beside him telling him sometimes maybe something isn’t a good idea”

The job he is doing is dependent upon the metrics you're measuring him on. If Moore was saying he was doing a good job in the commercial sense then most would agree. In terms of the quality of the game itself now, I don't think there is many rusted on fans of the game who would agree.

 

[Dr_Ice]

I actually have this idea of having a 20 team, 4 conference league.... 5 teams per conference, top 2 teams from each conference make the top 8...

Under this model, how many games each season and which teams play each other every season?
Would the conferences change each year?

I personally would not like the same conferences each year. Apart from being a bit boring, could be an unfair distribution of good vs bad teams

 

[pawsandclaws1]

It's all well and good that PVL is bringing record broadcast deals and the like into the game, but at what cost? The product that is the game itself is arguably the worst it has been.

I don't disagree with what you have written. I do think about the game in the UK and it dying if the NRL does not intervene. That would be disastrous for RL so I am happy the NRL is in a position to assist.

 

[wstigers11]

I don't disagree with what you have written. I do think about the game in the UK and it dying if the NRL does not intervene. That would be disastrous for RL so I am happy the NRL is in a position to assist.

SL aren’t even agreeing to the lifeline, ludicrous to me

 

[pawsandclaws1]

SL aren’t even agreeing to the lifeline, ludicrous to me

Let's hope commonsense prevails.

 

[Tiger_Yoshi]

Commercial success at the expense of the game itself. Anyone who has watched the game for longer than 5 years doesn't like the way it is going.

You are 100% spot on….the money might be rolling in, but the game has changed for the worse

 

[magpies forever]

You'd think with the money the game brings in now some of it should be reinvested to ensure there's enough talent coming through to keep the gravy train going and growing.

TBH Im in favour of NRL taking control of junior comps and develop from there. Too much variety in the clubs controlling juniors- some have good bases, others terrible and rely on buying talented juniors. Also some clubs have virtually no junior base anyway- Perth, Melbourne etc. Adelaide too if it gets in again. Juniors & parents have little to no loyalty to the comp / club they play in and are looking for best deals already when 16-17 y.o.

Hell, maybe WT shift to Adelaide and keep their junior base boundaries in Sydney and KOE cup side?

 

[Tito Santana]

Thats my whole point. The fabric of the game,, of sport in general is being lost. Eventually it will backfire if it isnt reigned in

The Roosters winning the comp is not good for the comp. Their own supporters are lame. I live near Allianz and there was zero buzz. Imagine if we won it. It would be a month long celebration.

 

[clontarfkid]

You are 100% spot on….the money might be rolling in, but the game has changed for the worse

Nup..product id outstanding .
Issue is its becoming a polynesian game with not much future for young Aussie kids

 

[happy_tiger]

The Roosters winning the comp is not good for the comp. Their own supporters are lame. I live near Allianz and there was zero buzz. Imagine if we won it. It would be a month long celebration.

After we had pinched ourselves a dozen times to make sure it wasn't another dream

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Nup..product id outstanding .
Issue is its becoming a polynesian game with not much future for young Aussie kids

Maybe the Aussie kids should get better then.

 

[king_sirro]

Maybe the Aussie kids should get better then.

If only that issue was that simple

 

[happy_tiger]

If only that issue was that simple

Yes at junior level teams in our day had one big forward to deal with and probably had very little mobility or footwork
Now you could face 5 big forwards just as big with mobility and footwork

Add a few backs with those same characteristics
Smaller kids with skills get totally outmatched at that level and become more interested in video games and or girls