Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Needaname]

Agree with Farah, if he has it in him, Liddle needs more time if it is at all worth it.
After watching the Newtown V Norths game I’d go as far as saying he is not in the same league as the younger Brailey.
The sharks are an attractive team at the moment. 2nd last team to win a GF and not yet losing that lustre. I hope Gallen and Lewis play one year too long and they end up having a similar season to the Cowboys of this year.
Here’s hoping anway.

Was listening to MMM on the way in to work they had flanno on. He said it'd be hard to keep both Brailey brothers as he sees both of them them as 9s only.

Too be honest we should Keep Liddle and target the younger Brailey.
What’s the point of signing Segeyaro or Lichaa, that’s exactly what the Sharks or Bulldogs would want us to do.
Target Kyle Flanagan as well to replace Benji.
We need to put pressure on these other clubs that just seem to keep their juniors happy whilst keeping them from first grade.

You reckon Kyle Flanagan would leave the club his dad coaches ?

No not exactly, but its gotta be burning him not being able to play him in first grade.
Townsend is the expandable one. It would be good to make them think about it anyway.

 

[tiger05premier]

Thank you for your pearls of wisdom Col.

However, you did gloss over one important detail. Would the Titans be willing to pay full price, or would they rather Wests cough up some coin over the next 2 years. It depends on how keen Wests are to offload him, and how prepared the Titans are to play hard ball.

Totally agree with this comment

But if paying some of his contract to get rid of him is what we have to do i wonder if we could frontload our outlay from this years cap so it didn't hinder us in future years

Surely we still have money to spend in this years cap

If said player asks for and is granted a release, he becomes uncontracted ….if picked up by the titans, it’s a new contract between titans and said player..

What you guys are failing to acknowledge is when a player is on the out of favour at a club, they will often ask for a release with conditions attached. It is common for a player to ask for a release with the condition that their contract be topped up by their current club. The club does not have to accept this but may if they are happy to have the player leave.

Exactly

That's why i agreed with GNR4LIFE post

We don't know what goes on behind closed doors

A player may want a release and the club may agree but the club the player wants to go to may not be willingto pay his current salary

Therefore the player decides to stay at current club

But the club really wants him gone ao they agree to top up his contract

Not that hard to understand

IC may just be willing to top up his contract to see him gone as it seems pretty obvious he is not in IC future plans

 

[Sunnycoast_tiger]

With us zero chance of signing a top notch player at the height of their game we should be looking at players who are road blocked at the good clubs, or players who are In the top 17 at good clubs who are on average money because of salary cap constraints. We need some big fast and competitive players …both forwards and backs.

I know easier said than done, but their must be some real quality at clubs like Penrith,Sharks, Storm,Chooks and Dragons caught in a road block. A bloke like Joe Stimson at the Storm is one who comes to mind. Okay they might be under contract, but contracts can be broken

Hoffman retires at the end of the year though and Stimson is probably a fair chance of partnering Kaufusi in the 2nd row at Melbourne next year.

is he related to the legend Mark Stimson? If he is maybe we have a chance to get him. i remember Mark Stimson's comeback game in reserve grade after his accident losing 4 toes and doing a forward flip for a try in reserve grade. Great day.

Yes, he is Mark Stimson's nephew. Peter Stimson, who played a few games for South, is his father. There is another Stimson playing at St Gregs, which almost certainly means he won't be playing for WTs.

There's a Matt Stimson plays for the victorian thunderbolts U20s comp in Qld.

 

[TYGA]

Agree with Farah, if he has it in him, Liddle needs more time if it is at all worth it.
After watching the Newtown V Norths game I’d go as far as saying he is not in the same league as the younger Brailey.
The sharks are an attractive team at the moment. 2nd last team to win a GF and not yet losing that lustre. I hope Gallen and Lewis play one year too long and they end up having a similar season to the Cowboys of this year.
Here’s hoping anway.

Was listening to MMM on the way in to work they had flanno on. He said it'd be hard to keep both Brailey brothers as he sees both of them them as 9s only.

Too be honest we should Keep Liddle and target the younger Brailey.
What’s the point of signing Segeyaro or Lichaa, that’s exactly what the Sharks or Bulldogs would want us to do.
Target Kyle Flanagan as well to replace Benji.
We need to put pressure on these other clubs that just seem to keep their juniors happy whilst keeping them from first grade.

That would be smart the younger brother is the gun.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Agree with Farah, if he has it in him, Liddle needs more time if it is at all worth it.
After watching the Newtown V Norths game I’d go as far as saying he is not in the same league as the younger Brailey.
The sharks are an attractive team at the moment. 2nd last team to win a GF and not yet losing that lustre. I hope Gallen and Lewis play one year too long and they end up having a similar season to the Cowboys of this year.
Here’s hoping anway.

Was listening to MMM on the way in to work they had flanno on. He said it'd be hard to keep both Brailey brothers as he sees both of them them as 9s only.

Too be honest we should Keep Liddle and target the younger Brailey.
What’s the point of signing Segeyaro or Lichaa, that’s exactly what the Sharks or Bulldogs would want us to do.
Target Kyle Flanagan as well to replace Benji.
We need to put pressure on these other clubs that just seem to keep their juniors happy whilst keeping them from first grade.

That would be smart the younger brother is the gun.

I'd be putting our effort into Xerri from the Sharks. Excellent young centre. L

 

[Russell]

Totally agree with this comment

But if paying some of his contract to get rid of him is what we have to do i wonder if we could frontload our outlay from this years cap so it didn't hinder us in future years

Surely we still have money to spend in this years cap

If said player asks for and is granted a release, he becomes uncontracted ….if picked up by the titans, it’s a new contract between titans and said player..

What you guys are failing to acknowledge is when a player is on the out of favour at a club, they will often ask for a release with conditions attached. It is common for a player to ask for a release with the condition that their contract be topped up by their current club. The club does not have to accept this but may if they are happy to have the player leave.

Exactly

That's why i agreed with GNR4LIFE post

We don't know what goes on behind closed doors

A player may want a release and the club may agree but the club the player wants to go to may not be willingto pay his current salary

Therefore the player decides to stay at current club

But the club really wants him gone ao they agree to top up his contract

Not that hard to understand

IC may just be willing to top up his contract to see him gone as it seems pretty obvious he is not in IC future plans

Who are we talking about here - I've gone back 4-5 pages with no name?

 

[Demps]

Was listening to MMM on the way in to work they had flanno on. He said it'd be hard to keep both Brailey brothers as he sees both of them them as 9s only.

Too be honest we should Keep Liddle and target the younger Brailey.
What’s the point of signing Segeyaro or Lichaa, that’s exactly what the Sharks or Bulldogs would want us to do.
Target Kyle Flanagan as well to replace Benji.
We need to put pressure on these other clubs that just seem to keep their juniors happy whilst keeping them from first grade.

That would be smart the younger brother is the gun.

I'd be putting our effort into Xerri from the Sharks. Excellent young centre. L

!!!

He'll be a big deal soon.

 

[tiger05premier]

If said player asks for and is granted a release, he becomes uncontracted ….if picked up by the titans, it’s a new contract between titans and said player..

What you guys are failing to acknowledge is when a player is on the out of favour at a club, they will often ask for a release with conditions attached. It is common for a player to ask for a release with the condition that their contract be topped up by their current club. The club does not have to accept this but may if they are happy to have the player leave.

Exactly

That's why i agreed with GNR4LIFE post

We don't know what goes on behind closed doors

A player may want a release and the club may agree but the club the player wants to go to may not be willingto pay his current salary

Therefore the player decides to stay at current club

But the club really wants him gone ao they agree to top up his contract

Not that hard to understand

IC may just be willing to top up his contract to see him gone as it seems pretty obvious he is not in IC future plans

Who are we talking about here - I've gone back 4-5 pages with no name?

Chris McQueen

 

[newtiger]

Was listening to MMM on the way in to work they had flanno on. He said it'd be hard to keep both Brailey brothers as he sees both of them them as 9s only.

Too be honest we should Keep Liddle and target the younger Brailey.
What’s the point of signing Segeyaro or Lichaa, that’s exactly what the Sharks or Bulldogs would want us to do.
Target Kyle Flanagan as well to replace Benji.
We need to put pressure on these other clubs that just seem to keep their juniors happy whilst keeping them from first grade.

That would be smart the younger brother is the gun.

I'd be putting our effort into Xerri from the Sharks. Excellent young centre. L

Even if you throw a cash figure at Xerri it forces the Sharks to offer more, or lose him.
If they have to offer more it effects their cap strategy.

 

[Russell]

What you guys are failing to acknowledge is when a player is on the out of favour at a club, they will often ask for a release with conditions attached. It is common for a player to ask for a release with the condition that their contract be topped up by their current club. The club does not have to accept this but may if they are happy to have the player leave.

Exactly

That's why i agreed with GNR4LIFE post

We don't know what goes on behind closed doors

A player may want a release and the club may agree but the club the player wants to go to may not be willingto pay his current salary

Therefore the player decides to stay at current club

But the club really wants him gone ao they agree to top up his contract

Not that hard to understand

IC may just be willing to top up his contract to see him gone as it seems pretty obvious he is not in IC future plans

Who are we talking about here - I've gone back 4-5 pages with no name?

Chris McQueen

Thanks.

 

[tiger05premier]

Exactly

That's why i agreed with GNR4LIFE post

We don't know what goes on behind closed doors

A player may want a release and the club may agree but the club the player wants to go to may not be willingto pay his current salary

Therefore the player decides to stay at current club

But the club really wants him gone ao they agree to top up his contract

Not that hard to understand

IC may just be willing to top up his contract to see him gone as it seems pretty obvious he is not in IC future plans

Who are we talking about here - I've gone back 4-5 pages with no name?

Chris McQueen

Thanks.

No worries

Read the posts from the top of page 833 and you will see McQueen mentioned

 

[teddy23]

Too be honest we should Keep Liddle and target the younger Brailey.
What’s the point of signing Segeyaro or Lichaa, that’s exactly what the Sharks or Bulldogs would want us to do.
Target Kyle Flanagan as well to replace Benji.
We need to put pressure on these other clubs that just seem to keep their juniors happy whilst keeping them from first grade.

That would be smart the younger brother is the gun.

I'd be putting our effort into Xerri from the Sharks. Excellent young centre. L

Even if you throw a cash figure at Xerri it forces the Sharks to offer more, or lose him.
If they have to offer more it effects their cap strategy.

I was told that the centre spot was Xerri’s for the taking when Ramein left but hey must’ve seen the value of Josh Morris at a reduced price and gone at him

Mark my words Xerri will play for NSW and will become a very good centre - go hard for him and just let him double think where he knows he has a better chance of cracking first grade with us over Sharks especially with Dugan needing too come back

Kyle Flanagan won’t leave sharks - they’ll make way for him

Maybe chuck Moylan at fullback and Townsend at 6 with Kyle at 7

 

[teddy23]

Not Wests tigers related and I’m not sure if it’s been mentioned but I’ve been told that eels are hunting for Luke Keary hard with Norman to go raiders - maybe the roosters do have a salary cap after all

Should we try nab someone from the roosters, as I don’t think they wanna get rid of keary especially with Cronk set to finish off

 

[Nelson]

Not Wests tigers related and I’m not sure if it’s been mentioned but I’ve been told that eels are hunting for Luke Keary hard with Norman to go raiders - maybe the roosters do have a salary cap after all

Should we try nab someone from the roosters, as I don’t think they wanna get rid of keary especially with Cronk set to finish off

Parramatta are so strange in their recruitment. I really don't look at that team and think geez what they really need is Luke Keary at 5/8…he's a good player but he's not going to do much to fix their problems (other than by seeing off one of their peanuts in Norman).

 

[WT2K]

That would be smart the younger brother is the gun.

I'd be putting our effort into Xerri from the Sharks. Excellent young centre. L

Even if you throw a cash figure at Xerri it forces the Sharks to offer more, or lose him.
If they have to offer more it effects their cap strategy.

I was told that the centre spot was Xerri’s for the taking when Ramein left but hey must’ve seen the value of Josh Morris at a reduced price and gone at him

Mark my words Xerri will play for NSW and will become a very good centre - go hard for him and just let him double think where he knows he has a better chance of cracking first grade with us over Sharks especially with Dugan needing too come back

Kyle Flanagan won’t leave sharks - they’ll make way for him

Maybe chuck Moylan at fullback and Townsend at 6 with Kyle at 7

Cant find the link now but basically flanno said his son will likely get a taste of NRL this year.

 

[newtiger]

That would be smart the younger brother is the gun.

I'd be putting our effort into Xerri from the Sharks. Excellent young centre. L

Even if you throw a cash figure at Xerri it forces the Sharks to offer more, or lose him.
If they have to offer more it effects their cap strategy.

I was told that the centre spot was Xerri’s for the taking when Ramein left but hey must’ve seen the value of Josh Morris at a reduced price and gone at him

Mark my words Xerri will play for NSW and will become a very good centre - go hard for him and just let him double think where he knows he has a better chance of cracking first grade with us over Sharks especially with Dugan needing too come back

Kyle Flanagan won’t leave sharks - they’ll make way for him

Maybe chuck Moylan at fullback and Townsend at 6 with Kyle at 7

I doesn't hurt to throw a spanner in the works.

 

[tigerap]

What you guys are failing to acknowledge is when a player is on the out of favour at a club, they will often ask for a release with conditions attached. It is common for a player to ask for a release with the condition that their contract be topped up by their current club. The club does not have to accept this but may if they are happy to have the player leave.

Exactly

That's why i agreed with GNR4LIFE post

We don't know what goes on behind closed doors

A player may want a release and the club may agree but the club the player wants to go to may not be willingto pay his current salary

Therefore the player decides to stay at current club

But the club really wants him gone ao they agree to top up his contract

Not that hard to understand

IC may just be willing to top up his contract to see him gone as it seems pretty obvious he is not in IC future plans

Who are we talking about here - I've gone back 4-5 pages with no name?

Chris McQueen

One of a number of dud signings last year

 

[tiger05premier]

Exactly

That's why i agreed with GNR4LIFE post

We don't know what goes on behind closed doors

A player may want a release and the club may agree but the club the player wants to go to may not be willingto pay his current salary

Therefore the player decides to stay at current club

But the club really wants him gone ao they agree to top up his contract

Not that hard to understand

IC may just be willing to top up his contract to see him gone as it seems pretty obvious he is not in IC future plans

Who are we talking about here - I've gone back 4-5 pages with no name?

Chris McQueen

One of a number of dud signings last year

True

But wasn't he the only one at that time?

We couldn't attract any players to the club and had to take whoever would come

 

[Cairnstigers]

Being impatient and rushing out to sign a player to replace those we have or will release this year is why we are here today
Eg
Tui
Rochow
McQueen and others
If we sign players just because they are available now we will end up in the same predicament next year

It is hard
We all know that
But waiting and making a play for class players is really in our best interest and that's what we all want
Class signings
Not could be's or Maybe's
Look at Newcastle
They landed Pierce
Who would have thought
As clubs struggle with the salary cap
We have an opportunity to pounce

 

[on_the_hill]

Being impatient and rushing out to sign a player to replace those we have or will release this year is why we are here today
Eg
Tui
Rochow
McQueen and others
If we sign players just because they are available now we will end up in the same predicament next year

It is hard
We all know that
But waiting and making a play for class players is really in our best interest and that's what we all want
Class signings
Not could be's or Maybe's
Look at Newcastle
They landed Pierce
Who would have thought
As clubs struggle with the salary cap
We have an opportunity to pounce

It’s not like the Knights got Pierce on a good deal though. They paid overs, just like we are going to have to do for those players. That’s clearly one of our strategies and the other, looking for diamonds in the rough, landed guys like Rochow and Tui. Until our TPA game lifts it’s our best shot. The other strategy is to develop successful junior players and something I think Ivan will successfully do.