Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

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Who would have thought that Ayoub would play the welfare card. Maybe he can find an ex titans player to tell the media how their treatment of him drove him to consider suicide.

Ayoub is a 1st class grub

Absolutely. Ayoub was up to his eyeballs in the Ryan Tandy betting saga, he sounds like a complete crook. He must know someone high up in the game to have gotten away virtually punishment-free for his involvement in the Tandy scandal.

 

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The Lurker
Newcastle's dilemma

He’s the best young forward to come out of Newcastle for many years - but I’m hearing Lachlan Fitzgibbon isn’t happy and wants out for next season.

The 24-year-old Fitzgibbon had a great year in 2018 and looks to have a massive future in the game.

But for some reason - probably a secret approach for a rival club - he is looking to get a release from the final year of his contract in 2019.

It leaves the Knights with the classic dilemma: do you keep a player who isn’t happy, or just cut him loose?

Fitzgibbon is all class; a power forward with the ability to break the line, and would be a massive loss for the club.

Knights officials are desperately trying to solve his problems and make him feel an integral part of the club again

Sounds like someone we could be targeting
Not on big $
A position we need to bolster

Only a rumour of course but if any truth to it my money would be on Souths being behind it.

Yeah that would make the most sense if it were true. They definitely need a replacement for Crichton and John Sutton isn't getting any younger.

They have Cameron Murray, and he is a beauty, they did go after Matterson as well

 

[Nelson]

The Lurker
Newcastle's dilemma

He’s the best young forward to come out of Newcastle for many years - but I’m hearing Lachlan Fitzgibbon isn’t happy and wants out for next season.

The 24-year-old Fitzgibbon had a great year in 2018 and looks to have a massive future in the game.

But for some reason - probably a secret approach for a rival club - he is looking to get a release from the final year of his contract in 2019.

It leaves the Knights with the classic dilemma: do you keep a player who isn’t happy, or just cut him loose?

Fitzgibbon is all class; a power forward with the ability to break the line, and would be a massive loss for the club.

Knights officials are desperately trying to solve his problems and make him feel an integral part of the club again

Sounds like someone we could be targeting
Not on big $
A position we need to bolster

Only a rumour of course but if any truth to it my money would be on Souths being behind it.

Yeah that would make the most sense if it were true. They definitely need a replacement for Crichton and John Sutton isn't getting any younger.

They have Cameron Murray, and he is a beauty, they did go after Matterson as well

Yeah but Murray is only one edge (if they even play him on an edge) and they're going to need to replace Crichton and Sutton pretty soon. I agree that Murray looks the goods.

 

[Nucky_Thompson]

No thanks

Ok Nuck - whom do you recommend???

Maguire or ivan

If Toovey and Maguire are in the same mould - and you say no to one - you have to say no to the other.

You do realise Madge is Maguire don't you?

Yes just think toov sucks

 

[2041]

No thanks

Ok Nuck - whom do you recommend???

Maguire or ivan

If Toovey and Maguire are in the same mould - and you say no to one - you have to say no to the other.

You do realise Madge is Maguire don't you?

That makes no sense at all. Maguire and Toovey may be a similar type of coach but it's perfectly possible to believe one is better thsn the other. I've heard credible stories that Toovey is tactically clueless - that it's all "firing up" and not much substance with him - which certainly isn't something you coukd say about Maguire, who if anything demands too much structure from his sides.

Personally I wouldn't be totally thrilled with either, but I could talk myself into Maguire while I'd be pretty certain Toovey would be a disaster.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Maguire will be gone to Manly if we don't act soon.

 

[TIGERPOWER]

Maguire will be gone to Manly if we don't act soon.

I hope Pascoe and go are sounding him out behind the scenes.

 

[tiger05premier]

Maguire will be gone to Manly if we don't act soon.

I hope Pascoe and go are sounding him out behind the scenes.

Hopefully they are

I did mention in a post yesterday though that on a newcastle radio station they said Manly are deciding between Madge and Cartwright

Hope we are more appealing to Madge than Manly is if indeed we do need a coach

 

[The_Patriot]

Heard a rumour that the Cleary to Penrith saga cost us Curtis Rona. . . . . .

 

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I think the worrying thing for me is if we were in line to sign any player of decent worth there would be some sort of smoke, There always is. Even the Matterson signing was talked about a fair bit in the lead up. We have been linked to no one, which leads me to believe the mediocracy bus will roll on.
The laughing stock of Australian sport.

 

[NT_Tiger]

Ok Nuck - whom do you recommend???

Maguire or ivan

If Toovey and Maguire are in the same mould - and you say no to one - you have to say no to the other.

You do realise Madge is Maguire don't you?

That makes no sense at all. Maguire and Toovey may be a similar type of coach but it's perfectly possible to believe one is better thsn the other. I've heard credible stories that Toovey is tactically clueless - that it's all "firing up" and not much substance with him - which certainly isn't something you coukd say about Maguire, who if anything demands too much structure from his sides.

Personally I wouldn't be totally thrilled with either, but I could talk myself into Maguire while I'd be pretty certain Toovey would be a disaster.

I wouldn't want Toovey anywhere near the place.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Maguire or ivan

If Toovey and Maguire are in the same mould - and you say no to one - you have to say no to the other.

You do realise Madge is Maguire don't you?

That makes no sense at all. Maguire and Toovey may be a similar type of coach but it's perfectly possible to believe one is better thsn the other. I've heard credible stories that Toovey is tactically clueless - that it's all "firing up" and not much substance with him - which certainly isn't something you coukd say about Maguire, who if anything demands too much structure from his sides.

Personally I wouldn't be totally thrilled with either, but I could talk myself into Maguire while I'd be pretty certain Toovey would be a disaster.

I wouldn't want Toovey anywhere near the place.

I don't beleive we're at the stage of needing a new coach. I am an optimist and believe Cleary will agree to an extension which is the best outcome if POM's information that he is onside with all the players remains current. Talk of Magure is a huge blow as I believe his style would set the club back years. Barrett who remains popular with the Manly players is the star in that field.

 

[NT_Tiger]

If Toovey and Maguire are in the same mould - and you say no to one - you have to say no to the other.

You do realise Madge is Maguire don't you?

That makes no sense at all. Maguire and Toovey may be a similar type of coach but it's perfectly possible to believe one is better thsn the other. I've heard credible stories that Toovey is tactically clueless - that it's all "firing up" and not much substance with him - which certainly isn't something you coukd say about Maguire, who if anything demands too much structure from his sides.

Personally I wouldn't be totally thrilled with either, but I could talk myself into Maguire while I'd be pretty certain Toovey would be a disaster.

I wouldn't want Toovey anywhere near the place.

I don't beleive we're at the stage of needing a new coach. I am an optimist and believe Cleary will agree to an extension which is the best outcome if POM's information that he is onside with all the players remains current. Talk of Magure is a huge blow as I believe his style would set the club back years. Barrett who remains popular with the Manly players is the star in that field.

I'm with you regarding a new coach. My comment was more a comment about Toovey as a coach.

 

[jadtiger]

Heard a rumour that the Cleary to Penrith saga cost us Curtis Rona. . . . . .

Post of the decade :smiley:

 

[Pawsandclaws]

That makes no sense at all. Maguire and Toovey may be a similar type of coach but it's perfectly possible to believe one is better thsn the other. I've heard credible stories that Toovey is tactically clueless - that it's all "firing up" and not much substance with him - which certainly isn't something you coukd say about Maguire, who if anything demands too much structure from his sides.

Personally I wouldn't be totally thrilled with either, but I could talk myself into Maguire while I'd be pretty certain Toovey would be a disaster.

I wouldn't want Toovey anywhere near the place.

I don't beleive we're at the stage of needing a new coach. I am an optimist and believe Cleary will agree to an extension which is the best outcome if POM's information that he is onside with all the players remains current. Talk of Magure is a huge blow as I believe his style would set the club back years. Barrett who remains popular with the Manly players is the star in that field.

I'm with you regarding a new coach. My comment was more a comment about Toovey as a coach.

Toovey has had his day. I just hope we don't have to employ a new coach.

 

[hsvjones]

I am dumbfounded that the club has not address this coaching issue as every day it goes on it pushes the club back.. Even the players don't know whats happening and Brooks even said it would be hard to play under Ivan if he signed elsewhere.. JOKE.. How are you even asking for a top quality player to come here when they our current players don't even know the coach is staying..
Once again we work so hard to improve the image of the club and this rubbish happens (I know it Panthers fault and not our) and us fans are left to ponder again..

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I am dumbfounded that the club has not address this coaching issue as every day it goes on it pushes the club back.. Even the players don't know whats happening and Brooks even said it would be hard to play under Ivan if he signed elsewhere.. JOKE.. How are you even asking for a top quality player to come here when they our current players don't even know the coach is staying..
Once again we work so hard to improve the image of the club and this rubbish happens (I know it Panthers fault and not our) and us fans are left to ponder again..

They’ve addressed the issue 2 or 3 times…

 

[2041]

I am dumbfounded that the club has not address this coaching issue as every day it goes on it pushes the club back.. Even the players don't know whats happening and Brooks even said it would be hard to play under Ivan if he signed elsewhere.. JOKE.. How are you even asking for a top quality player to come here when they our current players don't even know the coach is staying..
Once again we work so hard to improve the image of the club and this rubbish happens (I know it Panthers fault and not our) and us fans are left to ponder again..

I suspect the club is trying to get it resolved as soon as possible. Not sure what else you want them to do really. If the plan as reported on here is true (ie offer Cleary an extension with a deadline to accept or leave) I think most of us would agree it's the best option available for a situation that's beyond the club's control. And if that is the case they have to give Cleary some reasonable amount of time to consider his options: you can't say "sign on the spot or walk" in the real world.

The person who is really weeing in the Tigers' soup is Ivan Cleary. He's doing all this at a critical time for recruitment, and in a way that risks setting the Tigers back by years just when they seem to have turned a corner (and not just on the field - apparently the club is about to report its first profit for god knows how long, and it's clearly a more professionally run organisation nowadays).

Obviously Gould and the Panthers are playing this in a pretty unethical manner but equally they don't owe the Tigers anything - so far as they're concerned they're making the move to get the coach they want when they think they can get him (putting aside that they sacked the same guy two years ago!).

As fans, I think all we can do to support the club is be as patient as we can. We're not locked in negotiations with a 25-year-old Jonathan Thurston; really if we're honest we're probably not going to miss out on the Player Who Makes All The Difference if we have to wait a couple of weeks for this to be resolved. Good players come up for signing all the time, and in fact it's probably better to wait for the right ones to become available than to rush to spend all the cap money just to show the fans you're in the market (*cough* Reynolds *cough*).

Personally I'm willing to assume that the club is trying to get this resolved ASAP and to hope that at the same time they're exploring options if - as seems most likely - Cleary isn't here next year.

You never know. Maybe we'll appoint the next super coach who none of us have even considered, Cleary will go back to the Panthers, lead them to a pair of dynamic injury-plagued ninth place finishes and get the sack by Gould at the end of the 2020 season. My money's on Ricky Stuart to replace him.

 

[Don Kershane]

If Toovey and Maguire are in the same mould - and you say no to one - you have to say no to the other.

You do realise Madge is Maguire don't you?

That makes no sense at all. Maguire and Toovey may be a similar type of coach but it's perfectly possible to believe one is better thsn the other. I've heard credible stories that Toovey is tactically clueless - that it's all "firing up" and not much substance with him - which certainly isn't something you coukd say about Maguire, who if anything demands too much structure from his sides.

Personally I wouldn't be totally thrilled with either, but I could talk myself into Maguire while I'd be pretty certain Toovey would be a disaster.

I wouldn't want Toovey anywhere near the place.

I don't beleive we're at the stage of needing a new coach. I am an optimist and believe Cleary will agree to an extension which is the best outcome if POM's information that he is onside with all the players remains current. Talk of Magure is a huge blow as I believe his style would set the club back years. Barrett who remains popular with the Manly players is the star in that field.

Barrett is the one. Don't judge him by the Manly situation.

 

[hsvjones]

I am dumbfounded that the club has not address this coaching issue as every day it goes on it pushes the club back.. Even the players don't know whats happening and Brooks even said it would be hard to play under Ivan if he signed elsewhere.. JOKE.. How are you even asking for a top quality player to come here when they our current players don't even know the coach is staying..
Once again we work so hard to improve the image of the club and this rubbish happens (I know it Panthers fault and not our) and us fans are left to ponder again..

I suspect the club is trying to get it resolved as soon as possible. Not sure what else you want them to do really. If the plan as reported on here is true (ie offer Cleary an extension with a deadline to accept or leave) I think most of us would agree it's the best option available for a situation that's beyond the club's control. And if that is the case they have to give Cleary some reasonable amount of time to consider his options: you can't say "sign on the spot or walk" in the real world.

The person who is really weeing in the Tigers' soup is Ivan Cleary. He's doing all this at a critical time for recruitment, and in a way that risks setting the Tigers back by years just when they seem to have turned a corner (and not just on the field - apparently the club is about to report its first profit for god knows how long, and it's clearly a more professionally run organisation nowadays).

Obviously Gould and the Panthers are playing this in a pretty unethical manner but equally they don't owe the Tigers anything - so far as they're concerned they're making the move to get the coach they want when they think they can get him (putting aside that they sacked the same guy two years ago!).

As fans, I think all we can do to support the club is be as patient as we can. We're not locked in negotiations with a 25-year-old Jonathan Thurston; really if we're honest we're probably not going to miss out on the Player Who Makes All The Difference if we have to wait a couple of weeks for this to be resolved. Good players come up for signing all the time, and in fact it's probably better to wait for the right ones to become available than to rush to spend all the cap money just to show the fans you're in the market (*cough* Reynolds *cough*).

Personally I'm willing to assume that the club is trying to get this resolved ASAP and to hope that at the same time they're exploring options if - as seems most likely - Cleary isn't here next year.

You never know. Maybe we'll appoint the next super coach who none of us have even considered, Cleary will go back to the Panthers, lead them to a pair of dynamic injury-plagued ninth place finishes and get the sack by Gould at the end of the 2020 season. My money's on Ricky Stuart to replace him.

Great post mate.. As a supporter its just hard to remain patient knowing we might lose out on Ivan and another top coach and be left with another Rookie so to speak..

My Fingers are crossed for an outcome sooner rather than later. Cheers