Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Nelson]

There’s a reason Segeyaro has never nailed down a full time hooking role.
And a reason why sharks picked Brailey over him.
When was last time he played 80 minutes 2 weeks in a row?

He did have the full time hooking role at Penrith when he won Dally M Hooker of the Year and the Sharks started with Brailey (at least in part) because Segeyaro has a good running game and is more effective than Brailey as a bench impact hooker.

He did have a season to remember in 2014 but has been bounced around for the last 4 years, injuries and form dips have plagued the poor bastard.
I like him but just don’t see him as an upgrade from what we have.

If we found a 9 that can play 80 mins every week I’d be chuffed.
Hodgson
Smith
Granville
Cook
Friend
McInnes
Korisau
The 80 minute hooker I think has been underrated lately.
Having an extra back rower or backline cover would be huge for us every week.
I really hope Liddle is our man.

Yeah it would be great but it would be a mistake to try and force it. That's part of the problem Parramatta had this year when they just decided that they would try to run an 80 minute hooker even though they didn't have a genuine 80 minute option available. The Cowboys also suffered from playing Granville for 60-80 minutes - he showed almost no spark out of dummy half and their attack suffered for it.

Week in week out it's probably only Cook, McInness and McCullough that play a genuine 80 at dummy half. Friend, Smith and Hodgson often have bench relief these days (Radley, Brandon Smith and Havili). Granville loses his effectiveness when he plays 80\. Koroisau becomes a defensive liability when he plays 80.

Short of an 80 minute hooker it would be good to find a backup dummy half who can do a good job as a bench 2nd rower like Brandon Smith, Tevaga, Havili or Radley. That **should** be Elijah Taylor in our squad but clearly he should be kept well away from dummy half based on his performances there this year. Braden Robson maybe?

 

[TYGA]

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/list/nrl-contracts-james-segeyaro-cronulla-sharks-wests-tigers-salary-/gjxv2hrnteot1u41ychf2s7gl

My guess is that we chased Segy, but when he got cold feet we re-signed Farah

We have no need for Segeyaro Liddell has to be given full opportunity to nail the spot down. Issue is recruitment this was the off-season we were supposed to get 3-4 top line players. Matterson is a great buy hopefully the off-season is fruitful but The Cleary saga whether, the media are right or not is causing us damage in the marketplace.

 

[TCL]

Nothing to add just wanted be on page 1000

 

[jirskyr]

A coach with a year to run on his contract is not the same as a coach who might have signed with another club.

Almost every single new recruit goes to a club knowing the coach only has a short term contract. They go knowing that if all goes well that coach will be renewed and life goes on.

**Its absolutely nothing like the hypothetical situation** of going to a club where they **know** the current coach is leaving to join another club at the end of the season/contract.

Correct

That's all cool, but the Ivan Cleary situation is none of the scenarios that Patriot suggested. Dean Pay factually and literally has 1 year left to run on his current contract.

Ivan Cleary factually has 2 years to run.

You may speculate that Ivan may not be coaching Tigers in 2019 or 2020, but it is speculation only. You can just as easily speculate that Dean Pay won't see out 2019, especially after the Dogs overall results and the recent Mad Monday debacle.

If you are a player that turns down a contract based on speculation, then all well and good - be prepared to turn down very many offers because rugby league is constantly full of speculation.

Now if Ivan signs for Penrith in 2021, then fair enough, players have more certainty that he is leaving Tigers than other coaches whose current contracts run out in 2020\. But none of that yet exists.

Did you miss the word hypothetical.

No I didn't miss the word, but maybe I misunderstood. You were replying to the Segeyaro comments about Tigers vs other clubs.

Your hypothetical situation is a player potentially joining a club where they already know the coach is leaving. Fine, but that hypothesis isn't (yet) related to Tigers' current situation and certainly not applicable to Segeyaro.

 

[tigerap]

Well we got to 1000 pages!! and probs only signed 3 players in that time aha

:roll :roll :roll

 

[Russell]

Absolutely

Segeyaro was before Farah - old news.

Need a few positions fixed - hooker is not one of them in my opinion.

Don’t think Farah or Liddell can go a full season.

They don't have to - there are two of them.

Farah is supposed to mentor Liddle (spelling) isn't he (God help us), Segyaro would be of no assistance to Liddle whatsoever.

I’m a fan of liddle, but do you go for potential or proven first grader.

I think he is past the Potential stage - just needs time in the NRL now after the pre season to put his imprint on our games TP.

 

[TIGERPOWER]

Don’t think Farah or Liddell can go a full season.

They don't have to - there are two of them.

Farah is supposed to mentor Liddle (spelling) isn't he (God help us), Segyaro would be of no assistance to Liddle whatsoever.

I’m a fan of liddle, but do you go for potential or proven first grader.

I think he is past the Potential stage - just needs time in the NRL now after the pre season to put his imprint on our games TP.

I really hope he bulks up and comes back 100%. His body just looks too small for the rigours of a hooker. A fit and firing liddle will go a long way to us making the semis next year. Let’s hope he comes good.

 

[newtiger]

Nothing to add just wanted be on page 1000

You could have waited a week and been on page 2000.

 

[Harvey]

Would like to see a photo of Liddle standing next to Smith, McInnes, cook & McCullough.

I don’t think he is as small as a lot of people imagine

 

[innsaneink]

Liddles development has been hampered by injury.
Im unsure of his current fitness if hes had recent surgery or not, hopefully with a full off season and touch wood an injury free season next year by the back end of 2019 he should be - i hope - close to an 80 min hooker

 

[innsaneink]

Would like to see a photo of Liddle standing next to Smith, McInnes, cook & McCullough.

I don’t think he is as small as a lot of people imagine

ummmm


 

[Balmainian]

Would like to see a photo of Liddle standing next to Smith, McInnes, cook & McCullough.

I don’t think he is as small as a lot of people imagine

ummmm


Not quite a fair answer there.
That’s him as teenager I’m guessing and crouching with no other player to compare the scale.

 

[Russell]

He is bigger than Farah. (Fact)

Do you guys want him to be as big as Taumalolo?

That should slow him down a bit.

 

[Demps]

😂

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Liddles development has been hampered by injury.
Im unsure of his current fitness if hes had recent surgery or not, hopefully with a full off season and touch wood an injury free season next year by the back end of 2019 he should be - i hope - close to an 80 min hooker

Playing with the Raiders or Broncos would be considerably easier if you are a young hooker. Look at the size and physciality of the their forwards,.

 

[Newtown]

Well we got to 1000 pages!! and probs only signed 3 players in that time aha

Shows that this forum is full of good judges.

 

[The_Patriot]

Well we got to 1000 pages!! and probs only signed 3 players in that time aha

Shows that this forum is full of good judges.

Yes, they should have given us the job. . . .

 

[tigerap]

Nothing to add just wanted be on page 1000

You could have waited a week and been on page 2000.

:roll

 

[The-moP]

He is bigger than Farah. (Fact)

Do you guys want him to be as big as Taumalolo?

That should slow him down a bit.

Yes he is taller and maybe a little heavier than Farah .. but it his body mass, his muscles are not as developed as Farah or other number 9 for that matter. Storm number 9 Referee Smith has rather skinny body for a hooker, but his really crafty and barely keeps caught with the ball .. but he does do a lot of tackles / wrestles a lot of people to the ground.

I too hope that Liddle strengthens his body to take the rigorous demands a number has to put his body through in an 80 mins of football.

 

[Donald_Trump]

This is exactly what I’m taking about with Cleary. He should be fined for bringing the club into disrepute plus damaging the brand. Surely his contract would stipulate something like this. I am so mad about this crap.

He has cost us new recruits given his uncertainty - jerk!

Really? Who were these players?

I have read some of your other postings and you really should lay off the funny cigarettes and the Kool-aid.

:crazy :crazy

Thanks champ. Great post