Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

I don't see Souths picking up any of the freight for Doueihi unfortunately. hopefully this "we don't pay overs" mentality doesn't cost us a player of Adam's calibre.
 
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102223) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

I don't see Souths picking up any of the freight for Doueihi unfortunately. hopefully this "we don't pay overs" mentality doesn't cost us a player of Adam's calibre.

No of course not. Just sign the guy and stop being a clown Pascoe.
 
@bathursttiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102147) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102138) said:
@Tore85 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102126) said:
Doueihi would have had some of his current year contract already covered by South's would he not have? Surely that would get taken into consideration by WT for signing him...

Latrell M was paid $117k by the Roosters so far this year for his contract according to reports. That's a decent amount of the annual sum - could be 20-30%

Good point, Nov, Dec, and part of Jan paid, thats maybe 25%...

Edit: So if he is on $500k, $125 is already paid. $375 would be alright and thats with Souths paying no more.

Then you free up cap space for South's to go chasing JAC, smart move.

It’s not gonna matter financially tigers can still get JAC $$ wise
 
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102223) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

I don't see Souths picking up any of the freight for Doueihi unfortunately. hopefully this "we don't pay overs" mentality doesn't cost us a player of Adam's calibre.

If they want arrow they will have to
 
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102216) said:
@Ponyo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102045) said:
Not that worried, being patient. Meanwhile, Melbourne Storm - only 23 players signed

But but why is the club releasing players without ready-made replacements available? Blah blah blah

Seriously? You can't see the difference between us and Melbourne?
 
@Newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102220) said:
@2005magic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102136) said:
@Dyloh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102132) said:
I feel like there's zero downside to Doueihi? Doesnt work out at fullback we got a 5/8 for Benji? Worst case scenario we finally get some size on the wings.

I do worry about succession planning. Who is the candidate to replace Benji?

Reynolds?

Reynolds would be 31 I don’t think that’s succession planning
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.
 
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.

Depends on what our contract offer is..if any..
 
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.

Exactly. Pascoe is not in a position of power. Everyone knows that. He needs to just sign the guy. Bring Stefano over and all of sudden we’re looking like a team that could do something.
 
@wokesmoke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102229) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102223) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

I don't see Souths picking up any of the freight for Doueihi unfortunately. hopefully this "we don't pay overs" mentality doesn't cost us a player of Adam's calibre.

If they want arrow they will have to

You said that about Latrell.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102225) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102223) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

I don't see Souths picking up any of the freight for Doueihi unfortunately. hopefully this "we don't pay overs" mentality doesn't cost us a player of Adam's calibre.

No of course not. Just sign the guy and stop being a clown Pascoe.

Are you serious? This guy gets bashed because a coach signed players on overs and now he's getting bashed because he's not pushing to have another club carry freight on a player? He cannot win.
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102237) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102225) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102223) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

I don't see Souths picking up any of the freight for Doueihi unfortunately. hopefully this "we don't pay overs" mentality doesn't cost us a player of Adam's calibre.

No of course not. Just sign the guy and stop being a clown Pascoe.

Are you serious? This guy gets bashed because a coach signed players on overs and now he's getting bashed because he's not pushing to have another club carry freight on a player? He cannot win.

I’m dead serious and I don’t consider it to be overs. I think paying $500k for a guy who’s going to be your fullback is not over the top at all. I was a big fan of his last year and I think he’s a future star.

We have a mil left and we’re 8 weeks out. If you have to spend an extra 100k to get him just do it. Benefit outweighs the cost imo. Even if we get him and Stefano comes over we’ll still we way under.

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@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102240) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102237) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102225) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102223) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

I don't see Souths picking up any of the freight for Doueihi unfortunately. hopefully this "we don't pay overs" mentality doesn't cost us a player of Adam's calibre.

No of course not. Just sign the guy and stop being a clown Pascoe.

Are you serious? This guy gets bashed because a coach signed players on overs and now he's getting bashed because he's not pushing to have another club carry freight on a player? He cannot win.

I’m dead serious and I don’t consider it to be overs. I think paying $500k for a guy who’s going to be your fullback is not over the top at all. I was a big fan of his last year and I think he’s a future star.

We have a mil left and we’re 8 weeks out. If you have to spend an extra 100k to get him just do it. Benefit outweighs the cost imo. Even if we get him and Stefano comes over we’ll still we way under.

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Reading all the posts on here it looks like Pascoe and Madge will never win
Everyone has such different opinions about how our club handles things and who we should or shouldn't sign
Mention Latrell and 50% wanted him and 50% didn't
Or close enough to
Mention Doueihi and a similar result occurs
I for one would love Doueihi here at our club
AJ 50/50
At the end of the day we all want success at our club including management
God knows they cop their share of criticism for the lack of success
At the end of the day it's the players we have that ultimately win or loose us games
Wether it's dropped balls, forward passes, off side penalties, missed tackles, bad reads, kicking out on the full, missing a conversion it's the players and not management that make these mistakes
Then you have a bad call from a ref that can and has cost us a game
Just look what happened to the Raiders in the grand final
Point is it's not just one area of cause for not making finals
We need more discipline in our game and yeas one or 2 more class players
Here's to 20/20
Let's all hope for more success
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102240) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102237) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102225) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102223) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

I don't see Souths picking up any of the freight for Doueihi unfortunately. hopefully this "we don't pay overs" mentality doesn't cost us a player of Adam's calibre.

No of course not. Just sign the guy and stop being a clown Pascoe.

Are you serious? This guy gets bashed because a coach signed players on overs and now he's getting bashed because he's not pushing to have another club carry freight on a player? He cannot win.

I’m dead serious and I don’t consider it to be overs. I think paying $500k for a guy who’s going to be your fullback is not over the top at all. <snip>If you have to spend an extra 100k to get him just do it. Benefit outweighs the cost imo. Even if we get him and Stefano comes over we’ll still we way under.

I dont disagree with any of this,,,but.........we bought Mbye to be fullback as well, now we have debate of whether he is going to be 9, 4 or 14 on more than $750K.

Im worried the same will happen with Doueihi.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions &amp; Rumours](/post/1102240) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Signing Suggestions &amp; Rumours](/post/1102237) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions &amp; Rumours](/post/1102225) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions &amp; Rumours](/post/1102223) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions &amp; Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

I don't see Souths picking up any of the freight for Doueihi unfortunately. hopefully this "we don't pay overs" mentality doesn't cost us a player of Adam's calibre.

No of course not. Just sign the guy and stop being a clown Pascoe.

Are you serious? This guy gets bashed because a coach signed players on overs and now he's getting bashed because he's not pushing to have another club carry freight on a player? He cannot win.

I’m dead serious and I don’t consider it to be overs. I think paying $500k for a guy who’s going to be your fullback is not over the top at all. I was a big fan of his last year and I think he’s a future star.

We have a mil left and we’re 8 weeks out. If you have to spend an extra 100k to get him just do it. Benefit outweighs the cost imo. Even if we get him and Stefano comes over we’ll still we way under.

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So don't even play hard ball to even try to sign him for less? Just wear it and move on? Professional outfits wouldn't just take him on at full freight without inquiring first. If they say no we can still sign him.

Definitely worth having a crack first and calling Souths bluff.
 
@Demps said in [Signing Suggestions &amp; Rumours](/post/1102241) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions &amp; Rumours](/post/1102240) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Signing Suggestions &amp; Rumours](/post/1102237) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions &amp; Rumours](/post/1102225) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions &amp; Rumours](/post/1102223) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions &amp; Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

I don't see Souths picking up any of the freight for Doueihi unfortunately. hopefully this "we don't pay overs" mentality doesn't cost us a player of Adam's calibre.

No of course not. Just sign the guy and stop being a clown Pascoe.

Are you serious? This guy gets bashed because a coach signed players on overs and now he's getting bashed because he's not pushing to have another club carry freight on a player? He cannot win.

I’m dead serious and I don’t consider it to be overs. I think paying $500k for a guy who’s going to be your fullback is not over the top at all. I was a big fan of his last year and I think he’s a future star.

We have a mil left and we’re 8 weeks out. If you have to spend an extra 100k to get him just do it. Benefit outweighs the cost imo. Even if we get him and Stefano comes over we’ll still we way under.

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It's not a fact, it's an opinion.
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Signing Suggestions &amp; Rumours](/post/1102245) said:
So don’t even play hard ball to even try to sign him for less? Just wear it and move on? Professional outfits wouldn’t just take him on at full freight without inquiring first. If they say no we can still sign him.
Definitely worth having a crack first and calling Souths bluff.

No not in this instance. We have more to lose than they do. And for what is essentially 1% of the cap it’s not worth risking it. 100k here or there in 2020 will not affect us either way and it’s not worth losing him over.
 
@Harvey said in [Signing Suggestions &amp; Rumours](/post/1102249) said:
Doueihi @ 500k Mbye @ 900k.

Unfortunately I am not sure that we can find someone to take Mbye's freight

I wonder if Mbye kisses the ground like the Pope in front of the ATM machine ...

I know I would if i was on 900k !
 
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