Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107027) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107009) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107004) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1106998) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1106989) said:
Roosters going hard for Doueihi apparently. So glad we don’t have guys like Politis and Robinson running our club. They’ve clearly got no idea what talent is!

I think you are misrepresenting the views of many on here. I don't think anyone is suggesting that AD is not a talented young footballer. And most would be happy for him to join the club. The issue is the price. If it's true that he wants a four year deal and $600k next year, then many of us think that it's too much at this stage of his career.

so why do we see things differently to the Roosters? Why do they feel like he is worth talking to assuming he’s asking the same thing.


“Many of us think that it’s too much at this stage of his career”.

At what stage then would he be worth his asking price?
We lost Moses who thought he was worth $800k. We thought that was too much at his stage of his career. Eels thought they would encourage Moses to live up to his own expectations rather than putting him down.


Just my opinion , but it looks to me that Moses lived up to his own expectations, rather than the lower expectations of WT.

Yes he always had high opinion of his talents.
But no matter how good or bad he turns out to be ... he’s not a person I want anywhere near our club. Pretty much same tag I would pin on to guys like Matterson and Mitchell.
 
@momo_amp_medo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107032) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107027) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107009) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107004) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1106998) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1106989) said:
Roosters going hard for Doueihi apparently. So glad we don’t have guys like Politis and Robinson running our club. They’ve clearly got no idea what talent is!

I think you are misrepresenting the views of many on here. I don't think anyone is suggesting that AD is not a talented young footballer. And most would be happy for him to join the club. The issue is the price. If it's true that he wants a four year deal and $600k next year, then many of us think that it's too much at this stage of his career.

so why do we see things differently to the Roosters? Why do they feel like he is worth talking to assuming he’s asking the same thing.


“Many of us think that it’s too much at this stage of his career”.

At what stage then would he be worth his asking price?
We lost Moses who thought he was worth $800k. We thought that was too much at his stage of his career. Eels thought they would encourage Moses to live up to his own expectations rather than putting him down.


Just my opinion , but it looks to me that Moses lived up to his own expectations, rather than the lower expectations of WT.

Yes he always had high opinion of his talents.
But no matter how good or bad he turns out to be ... he’s not a person I want anywhere near our club. Pretty much same tag I would pin on to guys like Matterson and Mitchell.

I rate Moses really highly as a player. I think he’s got a heap of talent. But as a person he’s a shocker. Tanking like he did for us is unforgivable. Such a poor display of character.
 
@momo_amp_medo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107032) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107027) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107009) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107004) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1106998) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1106989) said:
Roosters going hard for Doueihi apparently. So glad we don’t have guys like Politis and Robinson running our club. They’ve clearly got no idea what talent is!

I think you are misrepresenting the views of many on here. I don't think anyone is suggesting that AD is not a talented young footballer. And most would be happy for him to join the club. The issue is the price. If it's true that he wants a four year deal and $600k next year, then many of us think that it's too much at this stage of his career.

so why do we see things differently to the Roosters? Why do they feel like he is worth talking to assuming he’s asking the same thing.


“Many of us think that it’s too much at this stage of his career”.

At what stage then would he be worth his asking price?
We lost Moses who thought he was worth $800k. We thought that was too much at his stage of his career. Eels thought they would encourage Moses to live up to his own expectations rather than putting him down.


Just my opinion , but it looks to me that Moses lived up to his own expectations, rather than the lower expectations of WT.

Yes he always had high opinion of his talents.
But no matter how good or bad he turns out to be ... he’s not a person I want anywhere near our club. Pretty much same tag I would pin on to guys like Matterson and Mitchell.


There would be very few nrl players who don’t have high expectations of their own ability. If their club doesn’t see that as a quality worth fostering Then obviously there will be conflict. At the same time I can understand that coaches want coach able players.
 
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1106998) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1106989) said:
Roosters going hard for Doueihi apparently. So glad we don’t have guys like Politis and Robinson running our club. They’ve clearly got no idea what talent is!

I think you are misrepresenting the views of many on here. I don't think anyone is suggesting that AD is not a talented young footballer. And most would be happy for him to join the club. The issue is the price. If it's true that he wants a four year deal and $600k next year, then many of us think that it's too much at this stage of his career.

There is always room for a smart footballer in any team. We are gun shy as there are a number of overpaid underperformers in our squad. AD and JAC are exactly the type of footballers who would lead WTs into the 8 and higher. We should be doing everything to bring AD back into our fold.
 
i guess if curtis scott is charged then raiders probably will not release joey leiluia
i dont know if ontract has been registered with nrl it has bee signed friday though i believe
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107043) said:
i guess if curtis scott is charged then raiders probably will not release joey leiluia
i dont know if ontract has been registered with nrl it has bee signed friday though i believe

That wouldn't be the worst outcome for WTs. In fact it would be saving us fr0m ourselves.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107046) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107043) said:
i guess if curtis scott is charged then raiders probably will not release joey leiluia
i dont know if ontract has been registered with nrl it has bee signed friday though i believe

That wouldn't be the worst outcome for WTs. In fact it would be saving us fr0m ourselves.

Usually rate your views Paws - however think you are incorrect about JL. Just my opinion of course.
 
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107047) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107046) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107043) said:
i guess if curtis scott is charged then raiders probably will not release joey leiluia
i dont know if ontract has been registered with nrl it has bee signed friday though i believe

That wouldn't be the worst outcome for WTs. In fact it would be saving us fr0m ourselves.

Usually rate your views Paws - however think you are incorrect about JL. Just my opinion of course.

I always pay attention to your views as well. I just feel AD is a much smarter footballer and has so much potential that could be tapped. JL is in the twilight of his career and I had hoped we were moving away from those buys.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107049) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107047) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107046) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107043) said:
i guess if curtis scott is charged then raiders probably will not release joey leiluia
i dont know if ontract has been registered with nrl it has bee signed friday though i believe

That wouldn't be the worst outcome for WTs. In fact it would be saving us fr0m ourselves.

Usually rate your views Paws - however think you are incorrect about JL. Just my opinion of course.

I always pay attention to your views as well. I just feel AD is a much smarter footballer and has so much potential that could be tapped. JL is in the twilight of his career and I had hoped we were moving away from those buys.

He's only 28. For a big, robust winger, that's hardly the 'twighlight' of his career. Now, if he was 30 and we signed him for 3 years, I would agree.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107036) said:
@momo_amp_medo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107032) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107027) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107009) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107004) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1106998) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1106989) said:
Roosters going hard for Doueihi apparently. So glad we don’t have guys like Politis and Robinson running our club. They’ve clearly got no idea what talent is!

I think you are misrepresenting the views of many on here. I don't think anyone is suggesting that AD is not a talented young footballer. And most would be happy for him to join the club. The issue is the price. If it's true that he wants a four year deal and $600k next year, then many of us think that it's too much at this stage of his career.

so why do we see things differently to the Roosters? Why do they feel like he is worth talking to assuming he’s asking the same thing.


“Many of us think that it’s too much at this stage of his career”.

At what stage then would he be worth his asking price?
We lost Moses who thought he was worth $800k. We thought that was too much at his stage of his career. Eels thought they would encourage Moses to live up to his own expectations rather than putting him down.


Just my opinion , but it looks to me that Moses lived up to his own expectations, rather than the lower expectations of WT.

Yes he always had high opinion of his talents.
But no matter how good or bad he turns out to be ... he’s not a person I want anywhere near our club. Pretty much same tag I would pin on to guys like Matterson and Mitchell.

I rate Moses really highly as a player. I think he’s got a heap of talent. But as a person he’s a shocker. Tanking like he did for us is unforgivable. Such a poor display of character.

Moses is probably one of the worst humans walking the earth. He's up there with Kim jon un, Kim jon il and Kim jon nam.
 
@yeti said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107053) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107049) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107047) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107046) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107043) said:
i guess if curtis scott is charged then raiders probably will not release joey leiluia
i dont know if ontract has been registered with nrl it has bee signed friday though i believe

That wouldn't be the worst outcome for WTs. In fact it would be saving us fr0m ourselves.

Usually rate your views Paws - however think you are incorrect about JL. Just my opinion of course.

I always pay attention to your views as well. I just feel AD is a much smarter footballer and has so much potential that could be tapped. JL is in the twilight of his career and I had hoped we were moving away from those buys.

He's only 28. For a big, robust winger, that's hardly the 'twighlight' of his career. Now, if he was 30 and we signed him for 3 years, I would agree.

AD is a big, relatively quick and smart footballer who could play centre at a pinch. I am just really underwhelmed at our purchasing for NRL besides LL.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107049) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107047) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107046) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107043) said:
i guess if curtis scott is charged then raiders probably will not release joey leiluia
i dont know if ontract has been registered with nrl it has bee signed friday though i believe

That wouldn't be the worst outcome for WTs. In fact it would be saving us fr0m ourselves.

Usually rate your views Paws - however think you are incorrect about JL. Just my opinion of course.

I always pay attention to your views as well. I just feel AD is a much smarter footballer and has so much potential that could be tapped. JL is in the twilight of his career and I had hoped we were moving away from those buys.

That's cool - have not been a great fan of JL in the past, but I think he could be good for us with Madge in his ear (as opposed to Wicky who goes off at the drop of a hat).
I am a great fan of AD and I think we will rue the day we put him on the back burner. Slightly high price at 516k a season (350+600+600) but I would pay it - however a forth year option (at 600) to us would be in order. If he didn't agree with that, then you can't break his arm I guess.
 
@yeti said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107053) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107049) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107047) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107046) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107043) said:
i guess if curtis scott is charged then raiders probably will not release joey leiluia
i dont know if ontract has been registered with nrl it has bee signed friday though i believe

That wouldn't be the worst outcome for WTs. In fact it would be saving us fr0m ourselves.

Usually rate your views Paws - however think you are incorrect about JL. Just my opinion of course.

I always pay attention to your views as well. I just feel AD is a much smarter footballer and has so much potential that could be tapped. JL is in the twilight of his career and I had hoped we were moving away from those buys.

He's only 28. For a big, robust winger, that's hardly the 'twighlight' of his career. Now, if he was 30 and we signed him for 3 years, I would agree.

He is a centre - not a winger.
 
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107058) said:
@yeti said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107053) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107049) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107047) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107046) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107043) said:
i guess if curtis scott is charged then raiders probably will not release joey leiluia
i dont know if ontract has been registered with nrl it has bee signed friday though i believe

That wouldn't be the worst outcome for WTs. In fact it would be saving us fr0m ourselves.

Usually rate your views Paws - however think you are incorrect about JL. Just my opinion of course.

I always pay attention to your views as well. I just feel AD is a much smarter footballer and has so much potential that could be tapped. JL is in the twilight of his career and I had hoped we were moving away from those buys.

He's only 28. For a big, robust winger, that's hardly the 'twighlight' of his career. Now, if he was 30 and we signed him for 3 years, I would agree.

He is a centre - not a winger.
 
The NRL is today dealing with another potential off-season scandal following the overnight arrest of Canberra Raiders’ star recruit Curtis Scott.

Club officials have yet to inform the NRL integrity unit that Scott was locked up in Sydney overnight following an incident with police after a boozy Australia Day celebration.

He is facing charges of resisting arrest after being approached by police in the Moore Park area.

Raiders coach Ricky Stuart was informed of the drama at 9.45am today.


Scott joined the Raiders after being granted an early release by Storm, two years before his contract expired.

It is a blow for the Raiders who released another centre Joey Leilua to the Wests Tigers over the weekend.

The former Melbourne Storm star has spent the long weekend in Sydney catching up with family and old mates.

He also had drama on Saturday night at the Clovelly Hotel where he was searched on the footpath outside the premises in a random police drug check.

He was found to have had nothing in his possession, according to his manager Sam Ayoub.

The Daily Telegraph is awaiting comment from the Raiders and NSW Police.

Only last week Scott spoke in a Fox Sports interview about why he enjoyed playing for a club outside of Sydney.

“(Signing with Canberra) was to stay out of the Sydney rat-race and the Sydney fishbowl,” he said, “It’s a good place to just concentrate on footy and at the moment, that’s the most important thing – apart from my family – that’s going on in my life,”
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107017) said:
@Masterton said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107015) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107011) said:
@Masterton said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107008) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1107004) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1106998) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1106989) said:
Roosters going hard for Doueihi apparently. So glad we don’t have guys like Politis and Robinson running our club. They’ve clearly got no idea what talent is!

I think you are misrepresenting the views of many on here. I don't think anyone is suggesting that AD is not a talented young footballer. And most would be happy for him to join the club. The issue is the price. If it's true that he wants a four year deal and $600k next year, then many of us think that it's too much at this stage of his career.

so why do we see things differently to the Roosters? Why do they feel like he is worth talking to **assuming he’s asking the same thing.**

Think you answered your own question.

Don’t get your point.

They think they can get him cheaper because he wants to go to a "good" club or because he knows his pockets will get filled in other ways. I don't think he'll be getting $650k from them.

I’m not so sure about that. He’s got a guaranteed position in our spine here, not so much there. If you’re an up and coming player you’d want to be playing in your preferred position imo.

Who said he was guaranteed a position? Did Madge say it?
 
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