Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[tony soprano]

I saw that Charlie Staines mum posted on a site saying that the figures in the DT article (surprise, surprise) are made up... and they havent heard of any figures like that... sounds more promising

Slothfield and co had Brooks on 850k this Arvo ?

I saw that, Buzz was giving it to the club, but he was mostly right, he said we struggle to sign any good players, and Madge and his hard nose coaching could be the issue, again he could well be right

In what format?
Care to post?

Only a month ago in his so called covertly obtained 100 richest NRL players he had Brooks on 600k...

A video link on Twitter
https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1298857171036192770

Performances suggest truth

 

[Guest]

Price put on Saab release ahead of de Belin court date
Author - Dan Walsh
NRL.com Reporter
Timestamp - Thu 27 Aug 2020, 07:26 PM

The Dragons' release of promising winger Jason Saab to a rival club will require a player swap or transfer fee being paid as Jack de Belin prepares for his latest appearance in court.

De Belin will appear in Wollongong Local Court on Friday where a ruling on legal argument in his criminal case is expected.

Friday's proceedings will determine if and when a trial date is scheduled, with de Belin's playing future dictated accordingly.

The Dragons face serious competition from the Warriors for his services should he be able to play in 2021.

His uncertain future holds significant influence over St George Illawarra's roster as the club looks to appoint Paul McGregor's long-term successor in the next month.

Meanwhile, Saab's early exit from the last two years of his Dragons deal is contingent on the club not being left empty-handed by his departure.

Saab has been pushing for a release on compassionate grounds for much of 2020.

The 19-year-old has struggled with a three-hour daily commute to Wollongong for training and family circumstances that prevent him moving closer to the club's headquarters.

Dragons officials have met with Saab's management multiple times throughout the year but have been unable to resolve the impasse.

Saab has fielded interest from several Sydney rivals including Wests Tigers and Manly over the course of 2020, but the Dragons preference is for a player swap to hasten his release.

"It's worth noting that contrary to media reports Jason Saab has not been granted a release at the end of the season," CEO Ryan Webb wrote in an update to Dragons members on Thursday.

"Although we will consider allowing him to depart on compassionate grounds if we were to receive a commensurate compensation in the form of a player and/or cash consideration."

NRL.com understands that the Dragons are not necessarily chasing a like-for-like replacement for Saab, with reinforcements on the edges and in their middle forwards stocks also a roster priority.

Saab has stressed that welfare concerns are driving his push for a release despite struggling for game time, with the 199-centimetre winger behind Mikaele Ravalawa and Jordan Pereira in the club's pecking order.

Utility Tristan Sailor faces a similar predicament and has been unable to get a run under interim coach Dean Young after playing the final three games of McGregor's tenure.

The 22-year-old son of former dual-international Wendell Sailor is yet to begin contract talks with the Dragons and may well have to move on to see regular first grade at the end of 2020.

Queensland Origin prop Christian Welch remains a front-row target with a three-year deal reportedly tabled, while Melbourne are also bidding to hang onto him with a two or three-year contract of their own.

Webb's message to members confirmed the key elements underpinning the Dragons coaching recruitment process, with an emphasis on "strong discipline", the "ability to develop young players", being "defensively minded" and coming "from a culture of success".

In the same memo, Webb referenced the imminent re-signing of "our brightest young talent in the coming weeks."

NRL.com understands the Dragons are poised to lock in several up and coming SG Ball players, having earlier this week elevated twins Max and Matt Feagai to next year's top 30 squad and re-signed the pair until the end of 2022.

 

[851]

I'm kind of stunned that people on here still give the cretins at the DT any air at all. The club has had issues over the DT producing garbage after garbage in the past. The WT don't give them exclusives and they're left to dig for crumbs and make up their own agenda. SMH get factual information from the club...

They are not far off the mark, fair cop as far as I am concerned, we haven't proven them wrong

 

[bptiger]

We should have signed masters young brother he looks pretty good .

 

[hobbo1]

6 Munster
7 Adam Reynolds

Make it happen Tigers

 

[JC99]

I'm kind of stunned that people on here still give the cretins at the DT any air at all. The club has had issues over the DT producing garbage after garbage in the past. The WT don't give them exclusives and they're left to dig for crumbs and make up their own agenda. SMH get factual information from the club...

SMH is the best for tigers news especially Chammas and Niclousi

 

[izotope]

Doueihi needs to become a much better ballplayer if we're going to run him at 6. I like the idea of grabbing Staines and Burton, but we need to be careful with how green our spine would be. The Tigers had a relatively young spine when we won the comp in 05, but Hodgson and Prince had both played state of origin and Marshall and Farah have gone on to become 2 legends of the game. Obviously we didn't know they'd be that good then, but with the benefit of hindsight it's pretty clear that a young spine having success like that is more the exception than it is the rule and they were all great players.

If we're planning to write-off next year and probably not really be a contender until 2023, then I can see the logic. But what's the point of creating a young team and then by the time they're ready to compete, they're all gonna come off contract. We need a mix of young, improving players who exceed their cap number and veterans who are win now players to continually compete. Otherwise you just end up at square 1 again (see what happened to us after 2013/14 when we ushered in the Big 4).

If Doueihi was moved to 5/8 we would need to look at new outside backs. He is to tall.

**> It has already been established on the forum that passing between players of different heights creates an issue.**

this is a gee up surely?

 

[JD Tiger]

Doueihi needs to become a much better ballplayer if we're going to run him at 6. I like the idea of grabbing Staines and Burton, but we need to be careful with how green our spine would be. The Tigers had a relatively young spine when we won the comp in 05, but Hodgson and Prince had both played state of origin and Marshall and Farah have gone on to become 2 legends of the game. Obviously we didn't know they'd be that good then, but with the benefit of hindsight it's pretty clear that a young spine having success like that is more the exception than it is the rule and they were all great players.

If we're planning to write-off next year and probably not really be a contender until 2023, then I can see the logic. But what's the point of creating a young team and then by the time they're ready to compete, they're all gonna come off contract. We need a mix of young, improving players who exceed their cap number and veterans who are win now players to continually compete. Otherwise you just end up at square 1 again (see what happened to us after 2013/14 when we ushered in the Big 4).

If Doueihi was moved to 5/8 we would need to look at new outside backs. He is to tall.

**It has already been established on the forum that passing between players of different heights creates an issue.**

this is a gee up surely?

Yes there was a comment a while back about it being harder for a player to pass to his fellow player if there was a significant height difference.

I forget the particulars, but it's sort of become folklore, like Woods 'It is what it is', or that 'we thought we had him' line. (The latter I can't even remember when that started).

 

[TigerLouis]

Our contracted players for 2021 are:
Douiehi
Nofoaluma
Leilua
Talau
Kepaoa
Mbye
Brooks
Twal
Leilua
Garner
Aloiai
Liddle
Musgrove
Reynolds
Blore
Mikaele
Utoukamanu
Cini
Bradley
Walters
Madden
Chee Kam
Packer
Simpkins

Thats 24 Contracted Players. If we can offload Mbye, Reynolds & Packer & not resign the off contract players in Jennings,Marshall,Taylor,McIntyre,Mcqueen,Clark,
Setfarth & Eisenhuth then we should have plenty of money to sign at least 5 quality players plus some depth players & I would go all out to sign
Addo-Carr,Johnston,Widdop,Procter & Welch.
Then My Top 17 would be
Addo-Carr
Nofoaluma
Leilua
Douiehi
Johnston
Widdop
Brooks
Twal
Proctor
Leilua
Welch
Liddle
Musgrove
Bench
Walters
Aloiai
Mikaele
Utoukamanu
Reserves
Kepaoa
Cini
Talau
Bradley
Madden
Chee Kam
Garner
Simpkins
Blore
That’s 26 players so still room to sign more players for depth maybe some more props.

 

[Tiger5150]

Doueihi needs to become a much better ballplayer if we're going to run him at 6. I like the idea of grabbing Staines and Burton, but we need to be careful with how green our spine would be. The Tigers had a relatively young spine when we won the comp in 05, but Hodgson and Prince had both played state of origin and Marshall and Farah have gone on to become 2 legends of the game. Obviously we didn't know they'd be that good then, but with the benefit of hindsight it's pretty clear that a young spine having success like that is more the exception than it is the rule and they were all great players.

If we're planning to write-off next year and probably not really be a contender until 2023, then I can see the logic. But what's the point of creating a young team and then by the time they're ready to compete, they're all gonna come off contract. We need a mix of young, improving players who exceed their cap number and veterans who are win now players to continually compete. Otherwise you just end up at square 1 again (see what happened to us after 2013/14 when we ushered in the Big 4).

If Doueihi was moved to 5/8 we would need to look at new outside backs. He is to tall.

**It has already been established on the forum that passing between players of different heights creates an issue.**

this is a gee up surely?

Yes there was a comment a while back about it being harder for a player to pass to his fellow player if there was a significant height difference.

I forget the particulars, but it's sort of become folklore, like Woods 'It is what it is', or that 'we thought we had him' line. (The latter I can't even remember when that started).

Tana umaga

 

[momo_amp_medo]

Well just read last 10 pages.
I thought we would learn about paying overs and long term contracts.
For me Burton better value than stains.
And if your considering paying anyone $500 JAC should be first to consider.

 

[izotope]

havn't heard that one! Poor Warren if thats on his recruitment criteria :grin:

However theirs always next year

 

[bathursttiger1]

We should have signed masters young brother he looks pretty good .

Cousin.

 

[the_third]

Doueihi needs to become a much better ballplayer if we're going to run him at 6. I like the idea of grabbing Staines and Burton, but we need to be careful with how green our spine would be. The Tigers had a relatively young spine when we won the comp in 05, but Hodgson and Prince had both played state of origin and Marshall and Farah have gone on to become 2 legends of the game. Obviously we didn't know they'd be that good then, but with the benefit of hindsight it's pretty clear that a young spine having success like that is more the exception than it is the rule and they were all great players.

If we're planning to write-off next year and probably not really be a contender until 2023, then I can see the logic. But what's the point of creating a young team and then by the time they're ready to compete, they're all gonna come off contract. We need a mix of young, improving players who exceed their cap number and veterans who are win now players to continually compete. Otherwise you just end up at square 1 again (see what happened to us after 2013/14 when we ushered in the Big 4).

If Doueihi was moved to 5/8 we would need to look at new outside backs. He is to tall.

**It has already been established on the forum that passing between players of different heights creates an issue.**

this is a gee up surely?

Must be April 1st somewhere. That’s absolute garbage. Langer would never have made the cut if that’s the case.

 

[diedpretty]

Doueihi needs to become a much better ballplayer if we're going to run him at 6. I like the idea of grabbing Staines and Burton, but we need to be careful with how green our spine would be. The Tigers had a relatively young spine when we won the comp in 05, but Hodgson and Prince had both played state of origin and Marshall and Farah have gone on to become 2 legends of the game. Obviously we didn't know they'd be that good then, but with the benefit of hindsight it's pretty clear that a young spine having success like that is more the exception than it is the rule and they were all great players.

If we're planning to write-off next year and probably not really be a contender until 2023, then I can see the logic. But what's the point of creating a young team and then by the time they're ready to compete, they're all gonna come off contract. We need a mix of young, improving players who exceed their cap number and veterans who are win now players to continually compete. Otherwise you just end up at square 1 again (see what happened to us after 2013/14 when we ushered in the Big 4).

If Doueihi was moved to 5/8 we would need to look at new outside backs. He is to tall.

**It has already been established on the forum that passing between players of different heights creates an issue.**

this is a gee up surely?

Must be April 1st somewhere. That’s absolute garbage. Langer would never have made the cut if that’s the case.

I remember the argument well. It was debated for quite a long time amongst forumers. The conclusion was that there was definitely some evidence that suggested passing between players of different heights was difficult. Most of the evidence revolved around Marshall constantly passing 3 feet above wingers and landing in row 5 and Brooks short passes that were always at knee height,

 

[the_third]

Doueihi needs to become a much better ballplayer if we're going to run him at 6. I like the idea of grabbing Staines and Burton, but we need to be careful with how green our spine would be. The Tigers had a relatively young spine when we won the comp in 05, but Hodgson and Prince had both played state of origin and Marshall and Farah have gone on to become 2 legends of the game. Obviously we didn't know they'd be that good then, but with the benefit of hindsight it's pretty clear that a young spine having success like that is more the exception than it is the rule and they were all great players.

If we're planning to write-off next year and probably not really be a contender until 2023, then I can see the logic. But what's the point of creating a young team and then by the time they're ready to compete, they're all gonna come off contract. We need a mix of young, improving players who exceed their cap number and veterans who are win now players to continually compete. Otherwise you just end up at square 1 again (see what happened to us after 2013/14 when we ushered in the Big 4).

If Doueihi was moved to 5/8 we would need to look at new outside backs. He is to tall.

**It has already been established on the forum that passing between players of different heights creates an issue.**

this is a gee up surely?

Must be April 1st somewhere. That’s absolute garbage. Langer would never have made the cut if that’s the case.


I remember the argument well. It was debated for quite a long time amongst forumers. The conclusion was that there was definitely some evidence that suggested passing between players of different heights was difficult. Most of the evidence revolved around Marshall constantly passing 3 feet above wingers and landing in row 5 and Brooks short passes that were always at knee height,

Yup, April 1st. ?

 

[Cairnstigers]

You mean
6 Herman Munster
7 Adams Family

Make it happen Tigers

The jokes on us because that's about as close as we would get

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Doueihi needs to become a much better ballplayer if we're going to run him at 6. I like the idea of grabbing Staines and Burton, but we need to be careful with how green our spine would be. The Tigers had a relatively young spine when we won the comp in 05, but Hodgson and Prince had both played state of origin and Marshall and Farah have gone on to become 2 legends of the game. Obviously we didn't know they'd be that good then, but with the benefit of hindsight it's pretty clear that a young spine having success like that is more the exception than it is the rule and they were all great players.

If we're planning to write-off next year and probably not really be a contender until 2023, then I can see the logic. But what's the point of creating a young team and then by the time they're ready to compete, they're all gonna come off contract. We need a mix of young, improving players who exceed their cap number and veterans who are win now players to continually compete. Otherwise you just end up at square 1 again (see what happened to us after 2013/14 when we ushered in the Big 4).

If Doueihi was moved to 5/8 we would need to look at new outside backs. He is to tall.

**It has already been established on the forum that passing between players of different heights creates an issue.**

this is a gee up surely?

Must be April 1st somewhere. That’s absolute garbage. Langer would never have made the cut if that’s the case.


I remember the argument well. It was debated for quite a long time amongst forumers. The conclusion was that there was definitely some evidence that suggested passing between players of different heights was difficult. Most of the evidence revolved around Marshall constantly passing 3 feet above wingers and landing in row 5 and Brooks short passes that were always at knee height,

Yup, April 1st. ?

This whole year has been April 1st!

 

[happy_tiger]

Doueihi needs to become a much better ballplayer if we're going to run him at 6. I like the idea of grabbing Staines and Burton, but we need to be careful with how green our spine would be. The Tigers had a relatively young spine when we won the comp in 05, but Hodgson and Prince had both played state of origin and Marshall and Farah have gone on to become 2 legends of the game. Obviously we didn't know they'd be that good then, but with the benefit of hindsight it's pretty clear that a young spine having success like that is more the exception than it is the rule and they were all great players.

If we're planning to write-off next year and probably not really be a contender until 2023, then I can see the logic. But what's the point of creating a young team and then by the time they're ready to compete, they're all gonna come off contract. We need a mix of young, improving players who exceed their cap number and veterans who are win now players to continually compete. Otherwise you just end up at square 1 again (see what happened to us after 2013/14 when we ushered in the Big 4).

If Doueihi was moved to 5/8 we would need to look at new outside backs. He is to tall.

**It has already been established on the forum that passing between players of different heights creates an issue.**

this is a gee up surely?

Must be April 1st somewhere. That’s absolute garbage. Langer would never have made the cut if that’s the case.

Cmon man Alfie to Kevie ..Kevie to Renouf ...Renouf to Hancock ...height wise might be 3 inches between tallest to shortest

 

[twentyforty]

I'm kind of stunned that people on here still give the cretins at the DT any air at all. The club has had issues over the DT producing garbage after garbage in the past. The WT don't give them exclusives and they're left to dig for crumbs and make up their own agenda. SMH get factual information from the club...

They are not far off the mark, fair cop as far as I am concerned, we haven't proven them wrong

Have to agree 851. Shooting the messenger doesn’t make the message untrue.