Skando

[Citizen_Tiger]

'Won't let anyone down'….'been selected for a purpose'....'no errors'.....'solid and reliable'.....That's all very well, but the point that's missed whenever there's another sentimental journey down the old Skando road, is that our recruiting in a key area has been woeful. It's not arguable......

 

[coop]

I know Ron, for Skando to prove he was worthy he had to make 25 hitups @ 22metres per hitup and 45 tackles in his 33 minutes on the field for mine.

Bad Skando.

Seriously, if the bloke had scored 4 tries you'd still have whined and given it to him.

You're the forum sook.

 

[hybrid_tiger]

I must have been watching a different game because as soon as he hit the line he dropped everytime from what I saw.

I love him but his time is up and some of you need to take the black and white glasses off.

No need to turn this into a magpies balmain thing HT….. I thought you were past that.

He didnt let us down, thats what most that WERENT bagging his selection was saying.
As Snake says...he's a bit insurance, and a cool old head among a very very green bench of forwards with NO semis experience

Mate I am not turning it into anything, I am judging with my own eyes and from where I was sitting he was dominated in nearly every tackle. If someone wants to provide some stats, go for it - I don't think he offers more than Moors or Fifita could at the moment.

I love Skandalis as much as anyone, but we are in 2010 - he should not be playing ahead of better, more deserving options.

 

[tiger05]

I am not a Skando fan and never have been. When I see him compared to great players I find it bordering on ridiculous.

In saying that he was good last night and in all his short stints in the top grade I have found his playing ability to be about as good as it ever was. His playing ability imo has not dimished at all. I suppose because of this he can be called on as a solid reliable back-up.

How he can be choosen ahead of Moors though is something I do not understand. I assume Moors must be undisciplined or something like that.

The team should be choosen on merit - Fifita and Moors should have 2 bench spots every week.

 

[innsaneink]

Gibbs, Fulton, Payten, Farah, Heighington and Ellis have all won Premierships…....

Wouldn't say short on Expirience....Opportunity sure....

You might wanna read wat I wrote again

 

[coop]

Mate I am not turning it into anything, I am judging with my own eyes and from where I was sitting he was dominated in nearly every tackle. **If someone wants to provide some stats, go for it** - I don't think he offers more than Moors or Fifita could at the moment.

I love Skandalis as much as anyone, but we are in 2010 - he should not be playing ahead of better, more deserving options.

Skando averaged more per carry than Heighno, Gibbs, Big Red, Flanagan and the Big Hombre.

He missed 0 tackles from 18.

I believe Sheens thinks we need an old hard-head there to help get the players minds in the right place when its needed. And if that's the plan, can anybody argue that it didn't work last night?

 

[coop]

I am not a Skando fan and never have been. When I see him compared to great players I find it bordering on ridiculous.

You should have stopped there. The rest of your post is wasted keystrokes.

 

[coop]

Just a tip everyone.

If you're unhappy with Skando being chosen, that's fine be unhappy with the person who chose him.

But Skando doesn't deserve the disrespect some posters here are throwing at him. He has always given everything he has and has never, ever let us down.

He did exactly what was expected of him last night.

 

[coop]

he wanna be doin more then that last night to warrant his selection…what did he have 4 hit ups? total waste.....

Read my post about his stats. Then shhhhhhh.

 

[innsaneink]

Mate I am not turning it into anything, I am judging with my own eyes and from where I was sitting he was dominated in nearly every tackle. If someone wants to provide some stats, go for it - I don't think he offers more than Moors or Fifita could at the moment.

I love Skandalis as much as anyone, but we are in 2010 - he should not be playing ahead of better, more deserving options

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Hybrid, I assume you were listening to MMM last night as i was, going by a cpl of ur posts.
You would heard brandy ask Sheens - "There were too many passes hrown at times…." where sheens replied "Yeh, we got into the side to side thing throwing passes into the crowd etc etc"

Moors or Fifita = while these guys are good, they cannott help themselves in promoting the ball, sometimes coaches just want steadying go forward which is what Sheens is after in Skando along with some insurance imo.
As for him being dominated, Ive only seen a fast forwarded replay at 5am this morning thru bleary eyes...I will watch again, but fwiw, it was his first game in NRL in a year.

He didnt let us down, imo he steadied the ship when he came on, which is what Sheens wants I think.

 

[Geo]

Yeah….. I should have read what you wrote.....

Your right Skando did his Job.....

 

[stryker]

Just a tip everyone.

If you're unhappy with Skando being chosen, that's fine be unhappy with the person who chose him.

But Skando doesn't deserve the disrespect some posters here are throwing at him. He has always given everything he has and has never, ever let us down.

He did exactly what was expected of him last night.

Agreed Coop, well said.

 

[innsaneink]

:laughing: haha good to see that rubbish deleted

 

[Citizen_Tiger]

Just a tip everyone.

If you're unhappy with Skando being chosen, that's fine be unhappy with the person who chose him.

But Skando doesn't deserve the disrespect some posters here are throwing at him. He has always given everything he has and has never, ever let us down.

He did exactly what was expected of him last night.

Disrespect? Well that takes unreality to an entirely new level. He's a player, like any other, that attracts opinions. The weight of opinion and indeed the stats suggest he is still the journeyman he was 12 years ago. If some want him to remain an icon, fair enough, he can be your Kevin Hardwick or Kerry Hemsley, both much loved, for their persistence and loyalty, nothing else

 

[angeman]

skando is a champion. though he did well 8 hitups for 70 metres? hardly gets dominated when tackles so we get a quicker play-the-ball, and he doesn't miss tackles! still would like to see moors there if fit?

 

[coop]

Just a tip everyone.

If you're unhappy with Skando being chosen, that's fine be unhappy with the person who chose him.

But Skando doesn't deserve the disrespect some posters here are throwing at him. He has always given everything he has and has never, ever let us down.

He did exactly what was expected of him last night.

Disrespect? Well that takes unreality to an entirely new level. He's a player, like any other, that attracts opinions. The weight of opinion and indeed the stats suggest he is still the journeyman he was 12 years ago. If some want him to remain an icon, fair enough, he can be your Kevin Hardwick or Kerry Hemsley, both much loved, for their persistence and loyalty, nothing else

Firstly, that post was aimed at one poster. He knows who.

Secondly, as has been pointed out, he was chosen to play by the coach, rightly or wrongly. He didn't pick himself.

Thirdly, as I pointed out earlier, he averaged more per metre in 9 hit ups than most of the current pack, made 18 or 19 tackles without missing one, didn't make an error and didn't give away a penalty. All in 33 minutes.

Do you actually think his game warranted criticism based on that?

I don't care if the bloke is 80, if he does the job the criticism is unwarranted. Criticise the decision to pick him, sure. Criticise the bloke for accepting the offer to do a job for his team and doing it well…?

I guess if he has played the '99 season for Balmain, this thread would be a bit different.

 

[Yossarian]

I don't think Skando had a bad game - he was solid enough - but I'd think Fifita and/or Moors offer better choices off the bench. I realise Fifita is not fit at the moment so you come down to a question of props and whether there is anyone else to pick. Gower is leaving at the end of the year so I guess Sheens doesn't have a huge amount of options with Cayless still suffering from the worst boil ever and at the moment Skano is the low risk option.

 

[Citizen_Tiger]

Just a tip everyone.

If you're unhappy with Skando being chosen, that's fine be unhappy with the person who chose him.

But Skando doesn't deserve the disrespect some posters here are throwing at him. He has always given everything he has and has never, ever let us down.

He did exactly what was expected of him last night.

Disrespect? Well that takes unreality to an entirely new level. He's a player, like any other, that attracts opinions. The weight of opinion and indeed the stats suggest he is still the journeyman he was 12 years ago. If some want him to remain an icon, fair enough, he can be your Kevin Hardwick or Kerry Hemsley, both much loved, for their persistence and loyalty, nothing else

Firstly, that post was aimed at one poster. He knows who.

Secondly, as has been pointed out, he was chosen to play by the coach, rightly or wrongly. He didn't pick himself.

Thirdly, as I pointed out earlier, he averaged more per metre in 9 hit ups than most of the current pack, made 18 or 19 tackles without missing one, didn't make an error and didn't give away a penalty. All in 33 minutes.

Do you actually think his game warranted criticism based on that?

I don't care if the bloke is 80, if he does the job the criticism is unwarranted. Criticise the decision to pick him, sure. Criticise the bloke for accepting the offer to do a job for his team and doing it well…?

I guess if he has played the '99 season for Balmain, this thread would be a bit different.

Well, the 99' Balmain team didn't have anyone with the longevity that Skandalis has displayed. That pack contained O'Neill, O'Donnell, Senter etc and I would rate Skandalis' contribution over a long period of time above any of those players.

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

He is there to steady the ship .With Gareth Ellis out you need a workhorse and Chris Heighington can only do so much on his own.Todd does his bit to inspire too but we need a brick and Skando was there when GE wasnt.
I must admit he did get bounced around a bit and found the turf more than others but his courage cant be questioned.I'm happy for him to be picked over Fitzy but not over Fafita.
All that said he is a great servant for our club and we all have high respect for him.

 

[bonstonker]

Mate I am not turning it into anything, I am judging with my own eyes and from where I was sitting he was dominated in nearly every tackle. If someone wants to provide some stats, go for it - I don't think he offers more than Moors or Fifita could at the moment.

I love Skandalis as much as anyone, but we are in 2010 - he should not be playing ahead of better, more deserving options.

then go watch a replay,
he wasn't dominated at all.
early in his first stint made a great one on one tackle on webb .stopped him in his tracks and locked up the ball in a situation webb more often than not gets the off load away.
was busy in defense and prepared to be the 3rd man in to bring someone down and get straight back in the line instead of sliding to marker.nobody got an offload from one of his tackles.
did exactly what any coach would want in defense.
tell me what your eyes saw from him in defense.
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he also worked in attack.
did you notice that after we scored he took the 3rd and 5th hitup of the set.
again,just what the coach wants after you score.
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skando was not great and he wasn't poor or showed up because of his age.
he was simply rock solid.
how that is a negative is beyond me.