Smith retires:

@geo said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312445) said:
@fade-to-black said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312442) said:
@gnr4life said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312312) said:
@fade-to-black said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312267) said:
@jc99 said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312229) said:
@tigerap said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312219) said:
Good Riddance....IMO he and his coach are solely responsible for introducing the cheating element, aka wrestle and win at any cost into the game....I will never forget his reaction while Alex McKinnon lay there crippled.

Man I bloody hate when people say this

How the hell was Smith meant to know what happened to McKinnon? He's not a doctor for Christ's sake, he doesn't have x ray vision he can't see broken bones. He argued to the ref like he's done a million other times and like a million other players have done. Just so happened that McKinnon was hurt bad

Fair enough if you don't like the grubby tactics he did on the field but I can't see how him talking to the ref in that situation somehow makes him a monster

There was a fair bit of media around (pretty sure McKinnon himself said it as well) that he was telling quite distinctly that he could not feel his legs.
Watching it live at the time it was blatantly obvious he was in serious trouble (perhaps not to the extent it turned out) but Smith chose to keep carrying on for a fair while when the medicab was out, neck was stabilised etc.
He is a germ. Not a bad football player.....Johns, Thurston, Lockyer at least of modern day players were better though IMO.

That is an out and out lie that he carried on while the medicab was on the field. He asked what the penalty was for then stood back and waited till McKinnon was off

Please watch to mend your selective memory

https://youtu.be/GC1CCzBJDnE

The actual fact that he still continued to carry on AFTER McKinnon had treatment and was driven off the field makes him even more of a germ, thanks for clarifying.
Playing the victim after a bloke is carted off in serious trouble just highlights what a maggot he is. People don't despise the bloke for no reason.

So I take it you won't be picking Melbourne in the Last Man Standing comp which starts TONIGHT..

On to it now?
 
@fade-to-black said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312442) said:
@gnr4life said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312312) said:
@fade-to-black said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312267) said:
@jc99 said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312229) said:
@tigerap said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312219) said:
Good Riddance....IMO he and his coach are solely responsible for introducing the cheating element, aka wrestle and win at any cost into the game....I will never forget his reaction while Alex McKinnon lay there crippled.

Man I bloody hate when people say this

How the hell was Smith meant to know what happened to McKinnon? He's not a doctor for Christ's sake, he doesn't have x ray vision he can't see broken bones. He argued to the ref like he's done a million other times and like a million other players have done. Just so happened that McKinnon was hurt bad

Fair enough if you don't like the grubby tactics he did on the field but I can't see how him talking to the ref in that situation somehow makes him a monster

There was a fair bit of media around (pretty sure McKinnon himself said it as well) that he was telling quite distinctly that he could not feel his legs.
Watching it live at the time it was blatantly obvious he was in serious trouble (perhaps not to the extent it turned out) but Smith chose to keep carrying on for a fair while when the medicab was out, neck was stabilised etc.
He is a germ. Not a bad football player.....Johns, Thurston, Lockyer at least of modern day players were better though IMO.

That is an out and out lie that he carried on while the medicab was on the field. He asked what the penalty was for then stood back and waited till McKinnon was off

Please watch to mend your selective memory

https://youtu.be/GC1CCzBJDnE

The actual fact that he still continued to carry on AFTER McKinnon had treatment and was driven off the field makes him even more of a germ, thanks for clarifying.
Playing the victim after a bloke is carted off in serious trouble just highlights what a maggot he is. People don't despise the bloke for no reason.

Don’t pretend to care about Mckinnon’s health. That’s the problem with most of you. If it was another player, it would be a non issue.
 
And I love the backtrack btw. So much for arguing the point while the medicab was attending huh? I bet it really annoys some of you that it didn’t really happen the way you remembered it
 
Abdo was interviewed on Sydney radio this morning and even he joked that Cammy could join the referees ranks now that he has retired.
 
Melbourne Storm calls for changes to Immortal rules for Cameron Smith
By WWOS staff
8 hours ago

Melbourne Storm officials have urged the NRL to change its rules regarding Immortal status, calling for Cameron Smith to be inducted into the exclusive club as soon as possible.

Smith called time on his 430 NRL game career on Wednesday but the existing rules state a player can only be eligible for Immortal status five years after retiring.

Melbourne Storm boss Matt Tripp has appealed to the NRL "not to wait" to name Smith an Immortal.
Craig Bellamy and Cameron Smith after winning the 2020 NRL grand final for Melbourne Storm. (Getty)

"He shouldn't have to [wait]," Storm chairman Tripp said. "I'm not aware of the rationale, but if they were ever going to change it they wouldn't get many arguments with Cameron."

ARL Commission chairman Peter V'landys broached the notion of changing the rule at a meeting of the game's top officials last year, however the NRL has confirmed changing the set up is not on the agenda.
Cameron Smith retires from rugby league

Five players were announced as Immortals in 2018 – Mal Meninga, Norm Provan, Frank Burge, Dave Brown and Dally Messenger.

The Storm are hoping to keep Smith at the club in an off-field role, although the Titans and Broncos are expected to express interest as well.
 
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312311) said:
A statue of this would have been much more recognisable.

![158774231_302951767847511_6440670557053113180_n.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1615410854351-158774231_302951767847511_6440670557053113180_n.jpg)

😂 GOLD
 
@bagnf05 said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312423) said:
@gnr4life said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312414) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312404) said:
@gnr4life said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312403) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312402) said:
@jirskyr said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312381) said:
It interests me how such a dominant successful player can be so divisive. I don't like Thurston but I can respect his footballing ability, and generally speaking I don't think people hate him much. I don't like Cronk's personality at all, literally the most annoying pundit going around for me, but you can't argue with his success, even if he potentially stood on the shoulders of greats.

I don't like the lifestyle Joey Johns had off-field but ultimately, so long as the bloke's not a convicted criminal, I tend to only think about the fooball.

I think that's how I'll end up with Cameron Smith - don't like the bloke, but man, could he play football! You'd be lining up to shake his hand if he was a Wests Tiger.

That part of him that people don't like - the personal winning at all costs - you wish your team's players had that drive to succeed over 430 FG matches. There's lots of things he could have done differently as a sporting personality, but he's an indisputable winner in all aspects of his career. He even had Cronk and Slater and Inglis move on and he still dragged his side to premierships.

He'll be an Immortal before long, so if you hate him, at least prepare yourself for the inevitable.

Not a fan of the ‘if he played for Wests Tigers we’d all love him’ line, obviously he didn’t and never considered playing for a battling team, it’s not his MO. His fans cannot deny he had a charmed career, always playing in stacked teams and getting showered in riches and diamonds the whole way. Good footy player, not a bloke I’d want to see play for us, because it’s below him.

Lol wow that’s quite the assumption, based on virtually nothing but your dislike for him.





@gnr4life said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312403) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312402) said:
@jirskyr said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312381) said:
It interests me how such a dominant successful player can be so divisive. I don't like Thurston but I can respect his footballing ability, and generally speaking I don't think people hate him much. I don't like Cronk's personality at all, literally the most annoying pundit going around for me, but you can't argue with his success, even if he potentially stood on the shoulders of greats.

I don't like the lifestyle Joey Johns had off-field but ultimately, so long as the bloke's not a convicted criminal, I tend to only think about the fooball.

I think that's how I'll end up with Cameron Smith - don't like the bloke, but man, could he play football! You'd be lining up to shake his hand if he was a Wests Tiger.

That part of him that people don't like - the personal winning at all costs - you wish your team's players had that drive to succeed over 430 FG matches. There's lots of things he could have done differently as a sporting personality, but he's an indisputable winner in all aspects of his career. He even had Cronk and Slater and Inglis move on and he still dragged his side to premierships.

He'll be an Immortal before long, so if you hate him, at least prepare yourself for the inevitable.

Not a fan of the ‘if he played for Wests Tigers we’d all love him’ line, obviously he didn’t and never considered playing for a battling team, it’s not his MO. His fans cannot deny he had a charmed career, always playing in stacked teams and getting showered in riches and diamonds the whole way. Good footy player, not a bloke I’d want to see play for us, because it’s below him.

Lol wow that’s quite the assumption, based on virtually nothing but your dislike for him.

Cos I’m sure half way through all that winning he thought, might chuck it all in and go come 9th?????

Or maybe he wanted to be a one club man. But no, let’s assume it’s the most selfish reason. Do you feel the same about a player like Lockyer?

He came pretty close to signing with Broncs I believe.

On Lockyer, no salary cap scandal although many would have doubts. No diamond rings. No wrestling. Club has fallen apart post his career. I’ve got a lot more respect for his achievements.

100%.

All the Smith Whiteknights in this thread are missing this very important point. Smith isn't hated because he was a great player, he is hated because he undermined the game we all enjoy. Skill has nothing to do with it, if it did, we would have a thread every other week on players that everyone hated.

But don't let the truth get in the way of the chance to be contrary on a internet forum....
 
Somewhere for the seagulls to shit..

![158622126_3777579142331994_7132582266438475034_n.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1615439596643-158622126_3777579142331994_7132582266438475034_n.jpg)
 
@hobbo1 said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312477) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312311) said:
A statue of this would have been much more recognisable.

![158774231_302951767847511_6440670557053113180_n.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1615410854351-158774231_302951767847511_6440670557053113180_n.jpg)

? GOLD


BAHAHAHA ik aye beauty?
 
@gnr4life said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312456) said:
And I love the backtrack btw. So much for arguing the point while the medicab was attending huh? I bet it really annoys some of you that it didn’t really happen the way you remembered it

As I said, your re-iteration of what actually happened showed him to be even more of a maggot😂. Nice work👍. Wouldn't want you as my lawyer.
 
@gnr4life said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312455) said:
@fade-to-black said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312442) said:
@gnr4life said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312312) said:
@fade-to-black said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312267) said:
@jc99 said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312229) said:
@tigerap said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312219) said:
Good Riddance....IMO he and his coach are solely responsible for introducing the cheating element, aka wrestle and win at any cost into the game....I will never forget his reaction while Alex McKinnon lay there crippled.

Man I bloody hate when people say this

How the hell was Smith meant to know what happened to McKinnon? He's not a doctor for Christ's sake, he doesn't have x ray vision he can't see broken bones. He argued to the ref like he's done a million other times and like a million other players have done. Just so happened that McKinnon was hurt bad

Fair enough if you don't like the grubby tactics he did on the field but I can't see how him talking to the ref in that situation somehow makes him a monster

There was a fair bit of media around (pretty sure McKinnon himself said it as well) that he was telling quite distinctly that he could not feel his legs.
Watching it live at the time it was blatantly obvious he was in serious trouble (perhaps not to the extent it turned out) but Smith chose to keep carrying on for a fair while when the medicab was out, neck was stabilised etc.
He is a germ. Not a bad football player.....Johns, Thurston, Lockyer at least of modern day players were better though IMO.

That is an out and out lie that he carried on while the medicab was on the field. He asked what the penalty was for then stood back and waited till McKinnon was off

Please watch to mend your selective memory

https://youtu.be/GC1CCzBJDnE

The actual fact that he still continued to carry on AFTER McKinnon had treatment and was driven off the field makes him even more of a germ, thanks for clarifying.
Playing the victim after a bloke is carted off in serious trouble just highlights what a maggot he is. People don't despise the bloke for no reason.

Don’t pretend to care about Mckinnon’s health. That’s the problem with most of you. If it was another player, it would be a non issue.

??
 
@newtown said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312470) said:
Melbourne Storm calls for changes to Immortal rules for Cameron Smith
By WWOS staff
8 hours ago

Melbourne Storm officials have urged the NRL to change its rules regarding Immortal status, calling for Cameron Smith to be inducted into the exclusive club as soon as possible.

Smith called time on his 430 NRL game career on Wednesday but the existing rules state a player can only be eligible for Immortal status five years after retiring.

Melbourne Storm boss Matt Tripp has appealed to the NRL "not to wait" to name Smith an Immortal.
Craig Bellamy and Cameron Smith after winning the 2020 NRL grand final for Melbourne Storm. (Getty)

"He shouldn't have to [wait]," Storm chairman Tripp said. "I'm not aware of the rationale, but if they were ever going to change it they wouldn't get many arguments with Cameron."

ARL Commission chairman Peter V'landys broached the notion of changing the rule at a meeting of the game's top officials last year, however the NRL has confirmed changing the set up is not on the agenda.
Cameron Smith retires from rugby league

Five players were announced as Immortals in 2018 – Mal Meninga, Norm Provan, Frank Burge, Dave Brown and Dally Messenger.

The Storm are hoping to keep Smith at the club in an off-field role, although the Titans and Broncos are expected to express interest as well.


An “ambassador role” based in SE QLD where he can scout and keep the pathway clear to Melbourne?
 
@fade-to-black said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312439) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312339) said:
@leck said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312237) said:
Whether you love, loath or absolutely hate Cam there’s no denying he was an exceptional player.

If he played for us we’d all be singing his praises and have a very different opinion.

The problem is that the NRL and News Corp threw and continue to throw countless dollars into the Melbourne franchise to ensure that they’re relevant in an AFL centric market.

With another QLD and possibly NZ team added to the mix in 2022/23, local Sydney clubs will quickly become less relevant.

Wests Tigers will never have that level of support from the NRL, so as an organisation we need to stand up, prove them wrong and make the finals this year.

Melb did receive more funding at the start but the Storm as an organisation has been self sufficient for over a decade now. Same can't be said of Sydney teams fighting each other.

I don't get why people have difficulty believing that teams such as Broncos, Roosters, Melbourne and Rabbitohs are better managed clubs and businesses. They get a leg up because of the rich people who own/run that club but that's how it is in every business.

It's so wrong to take away any credit from Smith, Bellamy and co for their on-field and off-field success.

Which one of Smith, Bellamy and co was willing to take the credit for the salary cap cheating? Answer is none, they all to a man deny it ever happened.

So the NRL has cleared them but you want them to put their hand up and say hey we signed two contracts? Get over it. All us mug fans thinking we know more than the people in-charge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFu2G7j2ab4&ab_channel=FoxLeague

Look at these idiots after 13 minutes.. sore losers.
 
All this crap about "he hasn't addressed this or that" Why does he need to? Media is hating on him coz he gives them nothing.
 
@papacito said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312441) said:
Finishing as one of the greats and retiring quietly (on the eve of a new season when the media can't make a big deal about it) is pretty classy in my books.

Seems like he beat them at their own game.

Sarcasm?
 
@fade-to-black said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312496) said:
@gnr4life said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312456) said:
And I love the backtrack btw. So much for arguing the point while the medicab was attending huh? I bet it really annoys some of you that it didn’t really happen the way you remembered it

As I said, your re-iteration of what actually happened showed him to be even more of a maggot?. Nice work?. Wouldn't want you as my lawyer.

No point playing chess with a pigeon
 
@tig_prmz said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312505) said:
@fade-to-black said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312439) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312339) said:
@leck said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312237) said:
Whether you love, loath or absolutely hate Cam there’s no denying he was an exceptional player.

If he played for us we’d all be singing his praises and have a very different opinion.

The problem is that the NRL and News Corp threw and continue to throw countless dollars into the Melbourne franchise to ensure that they’re relevant in an AFL centric market.

With another QLD and possibly NZ team added to the mix in 2022/23, local Sydney clubs will quickly become less relevant.

Wests Tigers will never have that level of support from the NRL, so as an organisation we need to stand up, prove them wrong and make the finals this year.

Melb did receive more funding at the start but the Storm as an organisation has been self sufficient for over a decade now. Same can't be said of Sydney teams fighting each other.

I don't get why people have difficulty believing that teams such as Broncos, Roosters, Melbourne and Rabbitohs are better managed clubs and businesses. They get a leg up because of the rich people who own/run that club but that's how it is in every business.

It's so wrong to take away any credit from Smith, Bellamy and co for their on-field and off-field success.

Which one of Smith, Bellamy and co was willing to take the credit for the salary cap cheating? Answer is none, they all to a man deny it ever happened.

So the NRL has cleared them but you want them to put their hand up and say hey we signed two contracts? Get over it. All us mug fans thinking we know more than the people in-charge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFu2G7j2ab4&ab_channel=FoxLeague

Look at these idiots after 13 minutes.. sore losers.

they cleared him because they want to end the negative publicity - he is receiving the money in his bank account and you tell me he doesn't know? hahahaha - I give up!!!
 
@tig_prmz said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312509) said:
All this crap about "he hasn't addressed this or that" Why does he need to? Media is hating on him coz he gives them nothing.

Cam played the media beautifully. I love how he kept them guessing all pre season and had them so upset because he hadn't told them what he was doing. Hilarious that they thought they deserved to know what's he's doing lol like you said he doesn't have to tell them anytbiny
 
@mike said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312510) said:
@papacito said in [Smith retires:](/post/1312441) said:
Finishing as one of the greats and retiring quietly (on the eve of a new season when the media can't make a big deal about it) is pretty classy in my books.

Seems like he beat them at their own game.

Sarcasm?

I'm not one for the corny build-ups to retirement. The month long highlights reels and tributes.

To be honest, I would have been vomiting in my mouth a bit with the media's month long "they're doing it for Cam" stories leading up to the GF.

I don't like the bloke at all, but am in awe at what he achieved.

I don't think the way he retired was intended to eclipse the 2021 season launch and I think it's laughable that the media have their knickers in a knot over something so minor.
 

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