Have to agree with you sirro about Gibbs, he should have been in the run on team IMO. He does attaract some penalties that's a combination of his rugged style and he is 'watched' by the refs. I was listening at the game last night through sportears and I was a bit concerned about Archer and Suttor discussing Woods to the point where they eventually penalised him, haven't heard that in any other games this year.