Something I'd Like To Know

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Chris

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Admittedly, when it comes to the salary cap Im not the sharpest tool in the shed but what I would love to know is how does Parramatta fix their salary cap issues in less than a month but it takes us more than 2 years to fix ours? Am I missing something here?
 
They let go of three players (Peats, Foran and Paulo) and had another retire (Watmough).

But hard to accept anything re: the salary cap these days.
 
We are paying massive overs for a lot of players I would imagine. Also when it comes to TPA's we are probably close to the bottom of the pile, so all our payments are coming straight of the cap
 
Because the NRL hit them with a feather duster.

The question i have is what will happen next time a club finds themselves in a position such as ours? Will they spend 3-4 years trying to correct it or take the odds of cheating knowing that at worst they get caught and lose 1 year?

The NRL missed it's chance to make an example and provide a solid deterrent.
 
Geo hit the nail on the head… Salary Cap Management/rorting is something this club needs to get smarter at.

On another factor, Parra was over-inflated due to signing quality players. Its easier to send them to other clubs.

The Tigers are always bulging due to signing potential/junior talent. Not easy to send them to other clubs without being forced to cover a large chunk of the salary. Further to this, due to a few seasons of high injury, activation clauses have probably kicked in to some players that were only here for depth inflating our SC further.

Forget about the rules... We need to hire a smart operator who fight for Salary Cap Minimisation like many of us do with our yearly tax!
 
@Tiger Watto said:
Geo hit the nail on the head… Salary Cap Management/rorting is something this club needs to get smarter at.

On another factor, Parra was over-inflated due to signing quality players. Its easier to send them to other clubs.

The Tigers are always bulging due to signing potential/junior talent. Not easy to send them to other clubs without being forced to cover a large chunk of the salary. Further to this, due to a few seasons of high injury, activation clauses have probably kicked in to some players that were only here for depth inflating our SC further.

Forget about the rules... We need to hire a smart operator who fight for Salary Cap Minimisation like many of us do with our yearly tax!
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Would slippery Sam take on a night job?
 
I think the last 5 years we have put to much focus on talent in the under 20's coming through and junior talent thinking that they will be something that there not.

How many players that have made there debuts the last 5 years have really kicked on and been outstanding 1st Graders for us? I can think of Tedesco, Sue and Woods. Moses is finally finding his feet but just needs to do it consistently week to week.

Due to Salary Cap issues obviously we've had to rely more on juniors and persist with our investment in them.
Hopefully when we get our books in order we can attract proven 1st Graders that are on the Market.

Bugger the Loyalty crap.
 
My suggestion is for Wests Tigers to hire Ian Schubert to look after our salary cap. It could well be that the club has been overly conservative in working the salary cap. Second suggestion is to encourage Harry to start offering quite a few more TPA's which would lift our burden in encouraging good players to the club.
 
It was always going to be the case that once the nrl came in to assist the club everything would be done by the book same for Newcastle, Saints, although Titans are an exception.
 
@foreveratiger said:
I think the last 5 years we have put to much focus on talent in the under 20's coming through and junior talent thinking that they will be something that there not.
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Absolutely.
It's one thing to promote the likes of Teddy and Broses from within, but another to hope for NRL talent out of guys like Milone and co.
No point in using home grown guys if we're going to overpay them. Judge players on ability, not their postcode.
 
@supercoach said:
We are paying massive overs for a lot of players I would imagine. Also when it comes to TPA's we are probably close to the bottom of the pile, so all our payments are coming straight of the cap
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I want to see TPA'S gone, then we will all be on an even playing field :crazy
 
Err
Watmough got the tap on the shoulder and said ok.
Foran got the tap on the shoulder and said ok.

That's $1.5M saved right there, plus the Eels made a $150K termination payment to Foran that was not counted to the cap.

So they are better at offloading their weight and hoodwinking the NRL into giving them special allowances, to settle quickly.

What Tigers really should have done, and this is not tongue-in-cheek but learned from experience, is fully rort the salary cap and keep Farah on the books at the same time. As in sign another $1M +worth of talent and try to hide it. Then when it finally comes out in the press, which it always does, it's such an enormous clusterF that the NRL will do anything to quiet it down quickly a la Eels or Storm.

At which time you make a few judicious termination payments, cut a few players you didn't like anyway, retain your best players, then install new management and move on.

Because in all seriousness, Tigers tried to move Farah on and it was a 2-year saga that got dragged back and forth in the media. Eels totally screwed Nathan Peats and it barely rated for a few weeks, because club and player moved on, and it all got drowned out in the overall Eels saga anyway.
 
@jirskyr said:
Err
Watmough got the tap on the shoulder and said ok.
Foran got the tap on the shoulder and said ok.

That's $1.5M saved right there, plus the Eels made a $150K termination payment to Foran that was not counted to the cap.

So they are better at offloading their weight and hoodwinking the NRL into giving them special allowances, to settle quickly.

What Tigers really should have done, and this is not tongue-in-cheek but learned from experience, is fully rort the salary cap and keep Farah on the books at the same time. As in sign another $1M +worth of talent and try to hide it. Then when it finally comes out in the press, which it always does, it's such an enormous clusterF that the NRL will do anything to quiet it down quickly a la Eels or Storm.

At which time you make a few judicious termination payments, cut a few players you didn't like anyway, retain your best players, then install new management and move on.

Because in all seriousness, Tigers tried to move Farah on and it was a 2-year saga that got dragged back and forth in the media. Eels totally screwed Nathan Peats and it barely rated for a few weeks, because club and player moved on, and it all got drowned out in the overall Eels saga anyway.
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Very well said jirskyr.

The verse that comes to mind " if you can't beat them join em " :mrgreen: :laughing:
 
@foreveratiger said:
@jirskyr said:
Err
Watmough got the tap on the shoulder and said ok.
Foran got the tap on the shoulder and said ok.

That's $1.5M saved right there, plus the Eels made a $150K termination payment to Foran that was not counted to the cap.

So they are better at offloading their weight and hoodwinking the NRL into giving them special allowances, to settle quickly.

What Tigers really should have done, and this is not tongue-in-cheek but learned from experience, is fully rort the salary cap and keep Farah on the books at the same time. As in sign another $1M +worth of talent and try to hide it. Then when it finally comes out in the press, which it always does, it's such an enormous clusterF that the NRL will do anything to quiet it down quickly a la Eels or Storm.
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At which time you make a few judicious termination payments, cut a few players you didn't like anyway, retain your best players, then install new management and move on.

Because in all seriousness, Tigers tried to move Farah on and it was a 2-year saga that got dragged back and forth in the media. Eels totally screwed Nathan Peats and it barely rated for a few weeks, because club and player moved on, and it all got drowned out in the overall Eels saga anyway.

Very well said jirskyr.

The verse that comes to mind " if you can't beat them join em " :mrgreen: :laughing:
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@jirskyr said:
Err
Watmough got the tap on the shoulder and said ok.
Foran got the tap on the shoulder and said ok.

That's $1.5M saved right there, plus the Eels made a $150K termination payment to Foran that was not counted to the cap.

So they are better at offloading their weight and hoodwinking the NRL into giving them special allowances, to settle quickly.

What Tigers really should have done, and this is not tongue-in-cheek but learned from experience, is fully rort the salary cap and keep Farah on the books at the same time. As in sign another $1M +worth of talent and try to hide it. Then when it finally comes out in the press, which it always does, it's such an enormous clusterF that the NRL will do anything to quiet it down quickly a la Eels or Storm.

At which time you make a few judicious termination payments, cut a few players you didn't like anyway, retain your best players, then install new management and move on.

Because in all seriousness, Tigers tried to move Farah on and it was a 2-year saga that got dragged back and forth in the media. Eels totally screwed Nathan Peats and it barely rated for a few weeks, because club and player moved on, and it all got drowned out in the overall Eels saga anyway.
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Love your way of thinking…

I always thought the Tigers shouldve photoshopped a picture of Farah having simulated sex with a puppy, but your way is heaps better.

Cheers
 
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