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tig_prmz
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5-1?
i missed the second half completely but we got 5 penalties in the first 20 mins didnt we?
i missed the second half completely but we got 5 penalties in the first 20 mins didnt we?
dazza65
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As mentioned in another thread - we absolutely should have won that game on those stats - as above, embarrassing.
happy_tiger
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And we are still 34-1 …........please
jirskyr
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I think that's short-sighted Eddie. The Tigers got on top of the stats because of the way we played - many of the Melbourne errors were forced ones, not just dropsies. Tigers played themselves into the front, but overall lacked that execution.
It was a superior performance to Round 2 and 3, you cannot say it's not an improvement.
The primary issue yesterday was not being able to convert enough of those opportunities and then slackening off for short moments to let Melbourne back into the game. Apart from tearing the Rabbits up Round 1, we have struggled to structure our attack close to the opposition line, something I blame the halves for. Cameron Smith was able to turn the match with a 40/20 and a few astute kicks, but Brooks and Moses were afforded many more opportunities than this and really only executed 3 or 4 of them.
And there is still clearly the slackening off that occurs, the half-time one I don't count because that wasn't for lack of effort, they'd just snuffed out a set. But the two long-range tries are not to FG standard and you'll never win if you give those opportunities to the top sites. Melbourne are the exact opposite of us, they are in it for the full 80 and don't need multiple invitations to claw the match back.
Christ how do you lose a game with those numbers?
simonthetigerrrr
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Spot on Jirksyr AFAIC.
Melbourne made errors cos of our line speed and we were bashing them. Give the boys some credit.
Def agree that our halves cost us that game….poor 5th tackle options with both kicks and passes killed us.......and we were an inch off being 20-0 at half time......quite cruel really.
If out halves can execute better and the forwards keep up the intensity i reckon we will win more games than we lose.
Melbourne made errors cos of our line speed and we were bashing them. Give the boys some credit.
Def agree that our halves cost us that game….poor 5th tackle options with both kicks and passes killed us.......and we were an inch off being 20-0 at half time......quite cruel really.
If out halves can execute better and the forwards keep up the intensity i reckon we will win more games than we lose.
old_man_tiger
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I have to disagree with the first paragraph. We had massive amounts of ball amongst the Panthers and raiders early. The fact that we didn't score in those games sealed our fate.
Yesterday we corrected that and at least got over the line, but we still don't have anything more that 35 minutes of footy in us, which is pathetic from the rest of your post I guess we agree on this)
Tiger_Watto
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The halftime stats for Melbourne were worse, but we simply are not up to playing at this level.
We have Structural and Stock problems, the same as the last 4 years.
Cleary will need to be given an open cheque book to turn us around!
We have Structural and Stock problems, the same as the last 4 years.
Cleary will need to be given an open cheque book to turn us around!
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Thanks mate. Melbourne are the best or close to it right now but still - you shouldn't lose under normal circumstances with those numbers.
jirskyr
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I don't think you are wrong but I wasn't talking about the Panthers or Raiders games. I believe yesterday the Tigers' energy in the first 20 got us on top, forced dropped balls, strong defence and good contact. I feel we got the better of the stats because we played fairly well for 39 minutes, which is a 10 minute improvement at least, and we scored points, which you are right we failed to do. It is all a small step in the right direction.
Second half fell away AGAIN and until that's fixed, we won't trouble many sides. But I think Melbourne played badly because we started well, we forced that bad play… Melbourne aren't a team to come out and drop ball without contact, throw forward passes, kick out on the full... they don't do that stuff, you have to take the game to them to force errors. And I think for about 40 mins total we did that, we really troubled them.
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I think your missing my point. No doubt we forced some errors and played with some grit for periods.
However I reckon 95% of teams win games with those stats.
We lost and lost fairly comfortably in the end.
Sure we did some good things. However its about winning and losing and if you can't win when you have all those things in your favour your in trouble as a team.
jirskyr
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Sorry if I missed your point, I agree with everything you said in your last post. You just said earlier that "Melbourne played as badly as they could have" and I didn't think that was a true assessment, I think Tigers got on top and forced errors, Melbourne didn't play so badly, we got on top. But then Melbourne hung in and in the end their top players stepped up, so overall not so bad from Melbourne.
Tiger_Watto
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13 missed tackles in the opening 10min
old_man_tiger
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All fair points. I'm more disappointed today because I feel we really had to win yesterday given our start.
I put that loss down to retention and recruitment. Nothing against Suli who is coming along nicely, but what do you think the result would have been had we kept Ado-Carr for the same money? Bellamy has an eye for talent and value for money while we obviously don't. Great stats, but we were lacking the attacking flair that won so many games for us in the past.
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