Stefano Utoikamanu #241

Tiger-ferret said:
there’s a difference between trying and achieving. Our squad is very young (and mostly tried hard) and steff could have stepped up to be the leader he always verbalized he wanted to be. He did the opposite.
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It’s a poor footy side. Has been for years. A leader of shit, will only produce more shit.
 
Tiger-ferret said:
Ok. Just checking. I don’t think anyone is overlooking how bad the squad is. Just pointing out the cats who found it too hard and gave up.
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Stef was poor this year, I’m not disputing that.

The issue I have is that he’ll go to Melbourne and be a good player in the league.

We need to create a better team environment to stop that happening.

The criticism of Api has me more triggered than that of Stef.
 
Winston Churchill said:
Champions shine through adversity. Lift your team and take them with you. The guy could have been a real leader and who knows where he may have finished in a decade if the tigers had become successful. Instead, we got arm grabing 50mtrs a game Stef. He will slot right into the Melbourne system as he will work just as hard doing sweet FA and yet will appear a better player as others are doing the heavy lifting. The bloke threw away an endearing legacy to chase an easy job and pay cheque elsewhere. The divas of today.
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IMO, Stef will not be good enough to dislodge the incumbents at storm.
Bellyache may give him a cameo appearance to test him out, but I don't see him being mentally capable to sustain the reliable effort that Bellyache would require.
Not in his natural character to be consistently; mentally tough.
Most likely will be playing in the Bears side. Just my gaze into the future.
 
BAGNF05 said:
Stef was poor this year, I’m not disputing that.

The issue I have is that he’ll go to Melbourne and be a good player in the league.

We need to create a better team environment to stop that happening.

The criticism of Api has me more triggered than that of Stef.
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He won't be a good player for any team. No heart or football nous.
 
I don’t get why players that are preparing to leave the tigers go so poorly even when they are trying to get a better contract.
You take horses effort atm for example really putting himself in the front window or even Zac lomax
 
Red88_Tiger said:
I don’t get why players that are preparing to leave the tigers go so poorly even when they are trying to get a better contract.
You take horses effort atm for example really putting himself in the front window or even Zac lomax
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I think in most cases they already have their next club settled - it just can't be publicised.

I don't think Lomax had his Eels contract until after it was known he was unhappy on the wing, so he was busting a gut to show another club. He went well and just kept playing well even after the Eels signed him. Shows character....

Either way, I think a lot of how someone deals with that situation comes down to the individual - some fight, some surrender.
 
Red88_Tiger said:
I don’t get why players that are preparing to leave the tigers go so poorly even when they are trying to get a better contract.
You take horses effort atm for example really putting himself in the front window or even Zac lomax
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The Stef has a clause stories started before rd 1. Unfortunately I’d say Melbourne expressed their interest and 2024 became an exit operation for Stef & his management. Fix the club, stop it happening.
 
Tucker said:
He could have busted his arse on Friday to show the club and it’s supporters that he appreciates all that’s been done for him over the years.
One big effort where he left it all on the field and he could hold his head up and say “sorry guys, I tried my best to help miss this spoon”….he did not do that.
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Agree with this but also have to question if any of his teammates left it all out there? The only person I noticed look like putting in was Seyfarth and even he was questionable.
 
BAGNF05 said:
It’s a poor footy side. Has been for years. A leader of shit, will only produce more shit.
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That’s a cop out man . You can only control your performance , especially as a front rower . It’s an important job . But a very simple one . If youre lazy in defence and apathetic towards work , that has very little to do with the team you’re in .
Friday night was a disgrace from him . Sure he could be an international , but not if that’s the level he’s dishing up . That’s bench for KOE level performance .
 
Winston Churchill said:
The bloke showed his character all year. You certainly wouldn't want to be in the trenches with a bloke like that. Best thing for tigers culture going forward is to weed out the weak. Its a net positive leaving the club, the money and an instant upgrade in Hunt even if Hunt only plays 20mins a game.
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Exactly ! I’d honestly rather twal play the difference , make his tackles , make his hitups , and play the percentages . Allow a hunt to come on and change the tempo .
Rather than a one hit up where he knocks a dummy half flying to drop like a fly and 5 others where he gets turned on his back and takes a year and half to get the play the ball going , to basically screw over anyone who dares take a hit up after him .
 
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