Stefano Utoikamanu #241

@JoshColeman99 said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1240670) said:
People will have to remember he’s still young and Learning the game. Reports are he’s a big body with a good motor who gets through a lot of work. Played NSW U18’s and U20’s, scored the match winner in the 18’s and had impressive stats in the 20’s.

He will come good for us but everyone will have to be patient

Patience will be the key Slimeys did the kid no favours this year with virtually no game time which seemed unfair but on the upside should be injury free he must have something with what he's done upto U20s
 
@05TIGZZ said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1240897) said:
Just shows how grubby parra really are. Wouldn’t release him and had no intention of playing him this year. The two games they gave him I think he played about 10 minutes in total. Just to make sure he wasn’t in tiger colours this year.

Could also add that ‘oh yeah they had injuries’ but he played 2 games with minimal minutes in the lead up to his last game in 2020 against us. Says everything about parramatta and how they felt about us signing him from under their nose. Had he resigned with Parramatta you can guarantee he would of seen a lot more game time. But no Parramatta kept him on their books to play him if only absolutely necessary culminating in a haha moment against his future club where he gets 20mins in the game to rub the salt further into the wound. I have no doubt Stefano would of made a greater difference to us this year then he did in Parramatta and he has probably regressed a year from where he was to start the year.
Hate Parramatta!
 
There are a lot of similarities to Payne Haas in 2018. For starters, Haas played stuff-all minutes in his first season. He made mega-levels of hype at that time, and when he went of injured in his third game, people were calling him a dud. Not long after, he was signed on a, what was thought to be at the time, ludicrous $600K per year over 6 years contract. Haas started at prop in 2019 and has gone on to put up record numbers, making that contract look small and undervalued.

Now, let's look at Stefano Utoikamanu. He has similar levels of hype next to his name. He also played next to no minutes in his first season and did nothing in his short game time. There was an article written earlier this year labelling him the best player yet to player NRL. That same article had hot prospects ranked below him such as Jayden Sullivan (Dragons, #10), Ethan Bullemor (Broncos, #9), and Bradman Best (Knights, #7).

Article: [The top ten players in the NRL’s next generation](https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/04/17/the-top-ten-players-in-the-nrls-next-generation/)
This is the excerpt on Stefano:

**1. Stefano Utoikamanu**
Age: 19
Position: Front row
Current club: Parramatta Eels (Wests Tigers from 2021)

Normally we talk about the Wests Tigers letting good players go, but this time around they won the contract fight for possibly the brightest young star rugby league has to offer.

If you thought Payne Haas was scary, then you probably haven’t seen Utoikamanu play yet. Officially listed at 191 centimetres and 115 kilograms, the 19-year-old has made a name for himself pushing through the Eels junior ranks, so it’s little surprise the contention for his signature ran hot in January.

He has played for New South Wales throughout the junior age brackets and was playing for Wentworthville in reserve grade action before most of his peers had finished playing SG Ball.

And for New South Wales fans, Utoikamanu and Haas as a starting front row combination somewhere into the future. Talk about scary.
 
@05TIGZZ said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1240897) said:
Just shows how grubby parra really are. Wouldn’t release him and had no intention of playing him this year. The two games they gave him I think he played about 10 minutes in total. Just to make sure he wasn’t in tiger colours this year.


Am I the only one who would chuckle a bit if he broke COVID protocols again as a parting gift?
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1240670) said:
People will have to remember he’s still young and Learning the game. Reports are he’s a big body with a good motor who gets through a lot of work. Played NSW U18’s and U20’s, scored the match winner in the 18’s and had impressive stats in the 20’s.

He will come good for us but everyone will have to be patient


I don't think Brad Arthur wanted to give him much game time as he had signed with the Tigers.
They really wanted to keep him but however there is history between Utoikamanu's family and the club over the handling of a neck injury to his younger brother that prevented the club from retaining his services.

It's understood the history was a factor in negotiations.

He was respectful enough to state if the Eels would not release him early he would do what was required until next season before he joined the Wests Tigers.

At 191cm 115kg and a good motor sounds like a good buy and with an experienced prop in Tamou coming should be excited to learn his craft from an experienced player.
 
Bottom line is once the penny dropped for Parra that the guy was not going to backflip he was pushed down to the bottom of the list. Okay they still used him a few times, but I guess they knew injuries could hit and he might be needed as a last resort.

Anyway it is impossible to judge anything on his few minutes he got this year, you would imagine he was not happy with Parra and Parra was not happy with him. Long hard offseason with Madge might see a different player next year.....fingers crossed
 
we paid decent money for an untested rookie and earmarked him and Shawn Blore to be the leaders of our pack for the next decade. our judgement of young talent has been on the mark the past 2 years, I'd like to think that they've got it right again.
 
@cqtiger said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1240605) said:
How many runs in first grade did Stefano get with parra this year? Didn’t see anything at all but I didn’t watch a lot of footy.

Will he be a regular first grader with the Tigers or just a fill in? Does he have a good motor or will he be limited minutes off the bench?

Can he tackle?

To me looks similar to Tautola and Pasaka ..wait ...where are they now 2 years down the track?
 
@tigerap said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1241090) said:
@Tcat said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1241057) said:
Hopefully Stef is pissed and will take it all out on MMoses and Matterson next year.

I think it’s time we moved on....

Nah I still hate Moses and matterson and forever will
 
@WT2019 said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1241078) said:
@cqtiger said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1240605) said:
How many runs in first grade did Stefano get with parra this year? Didn’t see anything at all but I didn’t watch a lot of footy.

Will he be a regular first grader with the Tigers or just a fill in? Does he have a good motor or will he be limited minutes off the bench?

Can he tackle?

To me looks similar to Tautola and Pasaka ..wait ...where are they now 2 years down the track?

let's hope, for our sake, that he is our new Fafita or at least Aloiai!😛ray:
 
@TheDaBoss said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1241099) said:
@tigerap said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1241090) said:
@Tcat said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1241057) said:
Hopefully Stef is pissed and will take it all out on MMoses and Matterson next year.

I think it’s time we moved on....

Nah I still hate Moses and matterson and forever will

I still don’t have my voice back after giving it to Moses all during the game. Hate that scum.
 
@mike said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1241109) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1241099) said:
@tigerap said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1241090) said:
@Tcat said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1241057) said:
Hopefully Stef is pissed and will take it all out on MMoses and Matterson next year.

I think it’s time we moved on....

Nah I still hate Moses and matterson and forever will

I still don’t have my voice back after giving it to Moses all during the game. Hate that scum.

Don’t worry I’m pretty sure he will be well familiar to NAS’s hips this week.
 
@the_third said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1241114) said:
@hobbo1 said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1241113) said:
@izotope said in [How good is Stefano?](/post/1240909) said:
im giving him one game or he's getting the plodder sticker

We will know after his 1st hit-up lol

Or decoy

Packer giving him after training private sessions
 
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