Stefano Utoikamanu #241

[Mccarry]

I would love to pull the offer on him. Say we are going in another direction. If you want to stay in 25 we will honour the contract with you playing off the bench. Wipe him.

I agree with this. We literally can’t gamble with $0.8m of the cap for 5 YEARS!

 

[Robbie's Love Child]

Pull the offer asap Richo, and go hard for a real couple of props. Stephano is a myth.

 

[J.T]

I've always been a big fan of Stef. Have always felt he will become an elite prop. I still think he will. But it's really hard to defend him after his efforts the last 2 weeks. He was terrible in this game and his defensive efforts in particular were a major reason why they lost. Can only assume the contract saga is really messing with his head. For his sake i hope it gets sorted one way or another asap and he can get back to just concentrating on his footy.

 

[Tito Santana]

RE-SIGN POLE!

He is a gun.

Stefano is lazy and soft. Cut him loose. He’s big. But that’s it.

 

[Tigers_Wests]

I've always been a big fan of Stef. Have always felt he will become an elite prop. I still think he will. But it's really hard to defend him after his efforts the last 2 weeks. He was terrible in this game and his defensive efforts in particular were a major reason why they lost. Can only assume the contract saga is really messing with his head. For his sake i hope it gets sorted one way or another asap and he can get back to just concentrating on his footy.

Someone mentioned it before and I agree....sit him out next week. Tell him to get his contract sorted similar to Turuva did at Penrith. His mind is elsewhere at the moment.

 

[The_Patriot]

I mean the guy (or his manager) are talking about him going back to Parra who supposedly treated him so poorly that he had to leave. He’s starting to get Glenn Morrison/Matterson vibes. Hope I’m wrong.

Yep.

You can tell he is tanking.

He is nowhere to be seen in the first 4 hit ups if the set, often out the back watching it all unfold.

He may have talent but his attitude is just dead ordinary. Not really the type of player to build a club around.

Id drop him to reserves until we see otherwise.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I mean the guy (or his manager) are talking about him going back to Parra who supposedly treated him so poorly that he had to leave. He’s starting to get Glenn Morrison/Matterson vibes. Hope I’m wrong.

Mattereon and Moses also got punted and went back. Clearly something in the water.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The way Pole has been playing, why would you stand in his way. Pole is the one they should be looking to extend, not this jabroni

 

[Bellend]

After watching the game again this morning Stefano is done withdraw the offer and lets move in a different direction. Offer Pole a 3 year contract on a better package.

 

[426Tlgerland]

Someone mentioned it before and I agree....sit him out next week. Tell him to get his contract sorted similar to Turuva did at Penrith. His mind is elsewhere at the moment.

Probably give him Monday to Thursday off , and tell him to sort contract , bring him back Friday and access where he is at and simply ask him are you in 100% this game if not we give another guy a crack , let him tell the coach he is not up for it , keeps all the pressure off the club and coach , I’m ok if he misses next game , but we need the decision made , stay or go , Pole upgrade and extension is where I would be busy now along with a couple of recruits for next season

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

I would love to pull the offer on him. Say we are going in another direction. If you want to stay in 25 we will honour the contract with you playing off the bench. Wipe him.

stef is contracted to us for the next 2 years though so we can't pull the offer can we ?
All it means is he is free to look around but ultimately can elect to stay and we can't do anything about it
if he doesn't move on we can have the same circus next year too

 

[king_sirro]

stef is contracted to us for the next 2 years though so we can't pull the offer can we ?
All it means is he is free to look around but ultimately can elect to stay and we can't do anything about it
if he doesn't move on we can have the same circus next year too

I'm talking about the extension offer that is on the table. And he is contracted for just next year isn't he?

 

[Wiz]

He is contracted for next year if he wants to be here. Can also leave at the end of this year due to the origin and top 8 clauses in his contract.

 

[Tiger_claws]

I think the deadline thing has always backfired. I don't really hear other clubs impose deadlines.

They simply carry on about their business and if the right player comes up, they hit the button and let the guy that's procrastinating walk.

Stef is sadly on his own in our pack. We don't have a one/two punch. Two props that can take second and third tackle, get a quick play the ball and set the scene for the edges against a retreating defence.

Twal and Klemmer are too slow in the ptb to get us on a roll. Twal is an honest player, but isn't aggressive enough. Klemmer has had his best days.

With the money Stef is asking for, I think it ties up a lot of cash for a player that hasn't performed consistently yet. Perhaps he will, but 800k is minutes and consistency money. He's probably worth about 650k today.

I understand not putting a deadline on as you say has backfired on us previously. I think Panthers sat Turuva out for a week so he could focus on his contract decision and Turuva said it was the right call. We are hearing he wants to wait until Parra announce their coach. To me that is taking the Pi55. Its alot of money we can invest elsewhere

 

[426Tlgerland]

We can pull the current offer off the table and he can stay next year on his current deal.
he needs to make a call , if Parra hand down who is coach Monday , then he should be given 3 days to decide , if it’s Ryles and Parra have made an offer , take it and move on , One point we all forget is does the new coach want Stef , Parra may want him but he may say no chance I’ve got other plans and some one who wants to follow me to Parra , , o

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I think you could make the argument both Sione Fainu and Pole are better than Steph.

It is a good sign for the future that our two young props are playing well. Hopefully they will inspire Utoikamanu.

 

[weststigers]

I understand not putting a deadline on as you say has backfired on us previously. I think Panthers sat Turuva out for a week so he could focus on his contract decision and Turuva said it was the right call. We are hearing he wants to wait until Parra announce their coach. To me that is taking the Pi55. Its alot of money we can invest elsewhere

I hear ya buddy. I don't think Richo is waiting around to find out. I think he's out there looking for a replacement because he knows the outcome already. Stef played like he had one foot out the door yesterday. He's as good as gone.

 

[Tigerstigerstigers]

I hear ya buddy. I don't think Richo is waiting around to find out. I think he's out there looking for a replacement because he knows the outcome already. Stef played like he had one foot out the door yesterday. He's as good as gone.

If not, he should be. Pillows are harder

 

[tonza]

Unfortunately it does look like Stef is playing that bad we are stuck with him as he pisses away any chances of teams wanting to pick him up for $800K+ a year playing as shit as he is. The same can be said for Klem, its clear he has a 2 year contract left and is playing that shit he doesn't want to be shopped/advertised over to the SNL to break offload his contract, no other club wants to pick him up either. We are stuck with 2 complete shithouse props with zero output for the foreseeable future. Yay

Stef is young and will get better. Klemmer on the other hand is mature but his stats are no better than Stef's most games. I am over Klemmer turning his back to the opposition and slowing down the play the ball. Everybody is awake to his attempted offloads which are very rare these days. Steph needs more help and like his teammates is too gassed after the numerous stupid errors.

 

[69-05-41]

If this is the best Stefani can produce when chasing a contract then best wishes for the next five years to whoever signs him. Hope it is Pawwa, or maybe he can join Nofa at Glebe, but please don't let it be us.

Use the money to upgrade and extend Pole ASAP.