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@JET said:
Another bitter magpie supporter :blah :blah
Ever since i have been on this forum there has always been this BS argument that our recruitment & develpment is a disgrace but at the end of the day it seems to be spot on.
Can anyone who thinks our recruitment or development is bad can they name a player from state cup who we let go that is setting the NRL on fire?? i bet you cant
State cup for what ever reason is substandard comp.There are only hand full of players that a worthy of a first grade jersey & that is a fact
@JET said:
I simply can't agree with this statement. In my opinion the recruitment and development program which has been implemented over the past 5 years of so is among the best in the competition. There are simply too many examples to use all of them, but look at the development of Chris Lawrence, Tim Moltzen, Simon Dwyer, Keith Galloway, Chris Heighington, all players who have been developed under our system in the last 5 years and played representative football. Beyond that there are countless examples of our development before that.
In the recruitment sense, we have recruited an international to the squad for the past 2 years, and it seems that we will have another for the third year running this year in Blair, as well as junior recruitment that has put our NYC squad among the best in the competition.
And the players in the state cup you're talking about, and I'm talking with knowledge as I do watch a fair bit of the state cup action, there are plenty of players with some first grade qualities in both squads, but there are no players in either side, in my opinion, who should be walk-up starters here, or at any other club than the Sharks maybe. At Wests in particular, only Josh Davis and Rocky Trimarchi stand out. Davis runs good lines and is strong, but he is all at sea in defence, particularly in the centres, and he needs to sort that out before he is FG standard. Trimarchi works hard, but is probably a bit too small for FG.
I think that our performances over the past three years in all grades show that our recruitment and development, both at a junior and senior level, are very good, and far from the disgrace that you believe.
Sorry I am not a bitter Magpie supporter at all as a matter of fact I support the Melbourne Storm and the reason for that is the way that Craig Bellamy has developed the young players under his control and the style of football they play. I love watching them play.
If the recruitment and development program is so good at the Tigers why do we get the same old comments about the coach and the teams performance, day in and day out.
Outside The Storm, Manly, the Dragons and the Broncos the rest of the teams are State Cup level I believe the coaches have a lot do with that.
If the recruitment and development program is so good at the Tigers why do we get the same old comments about the coach and the teams performance, day in and day out.
Outside The Storm, Manly, the Dragons and the Broncos the rest of the teams are State Cup level I believe the coaches have a lot do with that.
The_Phantom
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@jas83 said:
We are now Westsitgers, move on !!!!
@JET said:
Why do you care about the Tigers retention policy if you follow the Storm?
Tigersmurf
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The Storm who do not have a State Cup team anyway, and get first dibbs on the best up and coming talent - or at least they did when they were cheating!
@Tigersmurf said:
You sound like a broken record. Look how they have bounced back and look at the kids coming through down there this year, that all clubs had access to. They do have a State Cup team and are doing extremely well actually running second at the moment.
Where did you get the idea that they had 'first dibbs', whatever that means, on the best up and coming talent?
The Storm are not the only ones. If you need any proof about the importance of a development strategy look at the way the four top teams are developing their young players and that is why they are up there!.
Tigersmurf
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I think all clubs develop their own juniors and do a good job at it. It is more the fact that some clubs can draw on a larger area of juniors then others. And that is why the Storm and the Roosters rape and pillage juniors from the other clubs in the competition. Then when they have taken the best kids they parade about how good their system is. Even if their previous Junior Development officer was kicked out in disgrace…......and ended up at the Roosters!
I was of the understanding that the Storm took over a previously existing state cup team, but isn't it in Queensland? Can you take over a junior team and then give yourself recognition for running it well and coming second - PLEASE! Give me a break!
I was of the understanding that the Storm took over a previously existing state cup team, but isn't it in Queensland? Can you take over a junior team and then give yourself recognition for running it well and coming second - PLEASE! Give me a break!
innsaneink
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@palms said:
LOL….so naive
So many just lap it all up
Tigersmurf
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@JET said:
Which Part????????
The storm are developing juniors. Does anyone remember their 20's beat ours a couple of years back in the gf. Wests tigers problem is they take the huge south west nursery for granted. I have seen a 100 posts about old magpie supporters being bitter and twisted this week and being told to move on. I agree to an extent. But if they are to move on so should sheens, humpty and co. Make the move west and become a team representing south west sydney not a couple of hundred greenies in balmain. I'm not saying don't play a few choice games at leichhardt but the club should be making strategic moves now not waiting for the chooks and the dogs and the eels to get under their guard. In 10 years time the whole dynamic of rugby league may be different with Perth and Adelaide and the need to cull Sydney sides will arise again. We don't want to be the sharks when this time comes. Er
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tiger4ever
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Balmain would never desert their heartland. leichhardt as long as balmain are involved in the joint venture will be one of our home grounds.Its not like we dont get more fans at leichhardt and win a alot of our games there.
All clubs raid each others areas it can never be stopped.
You may of seen alot of disgruntled post by old magpie fans but its only been 4 or 5 fans most are thankful they have a team at all.
All clubs raid each others areas it can never be stopped.
You may of seen alot of disgruntled post by old magpie fans but its only been 4 or 5 fans most are thankful they have a team at all.
Tigersmurf
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I think everyone is missing my point. The Storm were able to pay overs to sign the best youg talent in the comp from Sydney and Queensland. They get a lot of credit for blooding their own, and sure Belamy is great at getting the best out of his players. But I believe they get this opportunity because they take the best that they can get their hands on from the inner Sydney and Qld clubs.
Norths got kicked out because they were broke. Well the Storm were given $5million a year every year to stay in the comp. The AFL allow the new teams to purchase the best kids, you can't tell me the NRL hasn't allowed the same thing to happen behind closed doors.
This year they purcahsed journeymen and turned them into a successful first grade side thus far and I respect them for that. But don't give me the whole "our system is the best" because we bring through so many top players…
And ER, I dont get your point. We play as many games at Campbelltown as we do at Leighhardt and SFS. Our players go to the schools and support the local businesses. You lost your credibility with the "greenies" comment.
Norths got kicked out because they were broke. Well the Storm were given $5million a year every year to stay in the comp. The AFL allow the new teams to purchase the best kids, you can't tell me the NRL hasn't allowed the same thing to happen behind closed doors.
This year they purcahsed journeymen and turned them into a successful first grade side thus far and I respect them for that. But don't give me the whole "our system is the best" because we bring through so many top players…
And ER, I dont get your point. We play as many games at Campbelltown as we do at Leighhardt and SFS. Our players go to the schools and support the local businesses. You lost your credibility with the "greenies" comment.
Gary_Bakerloo
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@tiger4ever said:
You may have missed the point of ed's post. He was not suggesting to leave leichhardt altogether, but more for the club to make a strategic move to secure the south west Sydney area.
You have to think of the rugby league landscape on 10, 15, 20 years. The club can't rest on its laurels because if/when more regional teams enter the nrl, competition for sponsors etc will become that much harder.
tiger4ever
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Im not so sure if i did miss the point…....Ok so how do you secure the south west of sydney.?what do you suggest do
Do you think every other team has there area secured lots of sydney teams are doing the same thing its dog eat dog
No more sydney teams will come in so it wont effect us at all.
Im sure when i seen some figures a year or so a go wests tigers financially are in a better position then most other sydney teams.
Do you think every other team has there area secured lots of sydney teams are doing the same thing its dog eat dog
No more sydney teams will come in so it wont effect us at all.
Im sure when i seen some figures a year or so a go wests tigers financially are in a better position then most other sydney teams.
He's a great operator, Humphreys.
He knows what to market and thats the Tigers brand not Magpies, they are dead and un marketable.
Face it, black and orange all the way, Magpies are and always will be associated with losing and thats just the reality of it.
I couldn't of thought of a better club to take over!
He knows what to market and thats the Tigers brand not Magpies, they are dead and un marketable.
Face it, black and orange all the way, Magpies are and always will be associated with losing and thats just the reality of it.
I couldn't of thought of a better club to take over!
