Taking a wrecking ball to the club! (Recent Media Reports)

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Ron Brodrick's Spirit said:
There are subtle cues.
Constant rubbishing of Burgess, (many posts based on the remarkably important hair style he has).
Maybe he deserves it. I can't say I know either way.

Stapleton is reported to be negotiating for a Balmain departure and the silence has been deafening.
I wonder why that is?
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What do you reckon Balmain are going to depart with, they are lucky to own the clothes they stand up in
 
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Ron Brodrick's Spirit said:
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Not much interest shown in this post is there RBS.
I really would have thought there would have been a lot of interest.
No more horrible squabbles and the very real chance of being the dominant partner in the JV.
Plus, they still keep their Tiger logo and pure Tiger colours and the fans and members won't have to travel to the horrible and crime ridden Campbelltown/South West area that so many on here have complained about.
 
Magpie_Magic said:
If people are having trouble understanding why this is so toxic to HBG and many supporters it's the above.

All parties want success and steps have already commenced towards this endeavour.

However fancy a segment of the fanbase seemingly hoping that by some miracle the government intervenes to create problems for one JV party which happens to own controlling interest and has bailed out and supported its Balmain partner to the tune of close to 15 million over the last 5 years in order to keep things nice, between the partners.

HBG and Wests Magpies will never sell. To get out and do what? We spend 15 million bailing Balmain to sell for what 20 million? To do what with it? Bring back the magpies? No. HBG want to retain investment in senior RL and have a strong interest in keeping the Wests brand within the WT visible inclusive within the inner west as well as the south west. RL is part of our foundation charter........to support Wests and now also Wests Tigers.

Unbelievable lack of empathy and understanding of what drives the motives of the parties especially considering your professional line of work.

Unfortunately this is toxic.
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The relationship between Wests Ashfield (HBG) and Wests Campbelltown was toxic.

The relationship between HBG and Balmain Tigers RLFC is toxic.

The relationship between Magpies board FC member-elected board members and HBG-appointed members is toxic.

The relationship between HBG and Wests Tigers supporters is toxic.

The relationship between board members within HBG is toxic.

The common theme in all this toxicity s HBG!
 
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Magpie_Magic said:
This is the lowest treachery.
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Yes, it could be M_M but the future is still to come and none of us know what the future holds.

But I look upon it as a great way for the [Balmain} Tigers to reach their full potential.

I've been to both islands of N.Z. and I can tell you without doubt the South Island is amazing.
Fresh mountain air, fresh mountain spring water and lots and lots of cuddly sheep 🐑🐏🐏🐏.
Snow skiing around Queenstown in winter and jet boating and white water rafting on the 75 klm. long Shotover River in summer.
And that's why the All Blacks are such a great team.

What's not to like, apart from learning how to speak Kiwi.
 
Ron Brodrick's Spirit said:
There are subtle cues.
Constant rubbishing of Burgess, (many posts based on the remarkably important hair style he has).
Maybe he deserves it. I can't say I know either way.

Stapleton is reported to be negotiating for a Balmain departure and the silence has been deafening.
I wonder why that is?
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If Stapleton was successful and the Tigers left and started with the Kiwi consortium what would that mean? Does that mean there would be two teams with Tigers in their name, the existing HBG owned Tigers would change their name to Magpies or some other mascot or some other iteration?
I don’t understand the machinations of such a move if it was to occur or if it even could.
 
GCfan said:
I don’t understand the machinations of such a move if it was to occur or if it even could.
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It can't, NRL control the licences. It's not even worth wasting brainpower on, I have no idea why anyone is giving this nonsense airtime.

That NZ bid (that has already failed) have reached out to a lot of clubs, not just 'Balmain' (who have about $2 to rub together BTW).
 
BZN said:
G'day M_M... really pleased that you also picked up on this post from Joel.
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There are no parallels with the major governance violations at Parramatta Leagues and its disingenuous to make an association.

Likewise with the early attempt to fuse the so called Magpies die hards in tne petition.

Unfortunately, lacking substance the petition organisers and some of their supporters are now using this thread to advance baseless claims and wild off the mark speculation in an attempt to further their cause.

I'm sure many who signed their petition wouldn't be all in with some of this.
 
cktiger said:
Stapleton doesn't get a say....can get outvoted every time.
So yes, HBG run the board.
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Let's hope so. He's reported as conspiring to split the club up.
Would you want other board members to agree with that?
Would you like the Balmain split to prevail?
Do you agree he should be permanently banned from the club if that is proven to be true?
 
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Pascoes_barber said:
It can't, NRL control the licences. It's not even worth wasting brainpower on, I have no idea why anyone is giving this nonsense airtime.

That NZ bid (that has already failed) have reached out to a lot of clubs, not just 'Balmain' (who have about $2 to rub together BTW).
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You should probably address that question to Stapleton.
(I presume NZ would provide the finance. Balmain are providing the brand)
 
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Ron Brodrick's Spirit said:
Let's hope so. He's reported as conspiring to split the club up.
Would you want other board members to agree with that?
Would you like the Balmain split to prevail?
Do you agree he should be permanently banned from the club if that is proven to be true?
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Balmain can do what they want. The ARLC controls the name Wests and Tigers. They've got [This word has been automatically removed] all
 
Iron Fist said:
The relationship between Wests Ashfield (HBG) and Wests Campbelltown was toxic.

The relationship between HBG and Balmain Tigers RLFC is toxic.

The relationship between Magpies board FC member-elected board members and HBG-appointed members is toxic.

The relationship between HBG and Wests Tigers supporters is toxic.

The relationship between board members within HBG is toxic.

The common theme in all this toxicity s HBG!
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All except your first point were instigated by the petition/review process inclusive of Balmain's apparent laterly attempts to split from the WT.

The type of thing which I was initially concerned about.
 
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cdinoz007 said:
...ok I'll bite here.

How about this. Instead of being antagonistic towards the HBG, perhaps look into setting up a Supporters Trust and offering to work with the football club.

These are very popular in the UK (ManUtd supporters trust has a quarter of a million members!). I am a member of 2x supporters trusts and are in place for many football, rugby and cricket clubs.

It's never been done here before to my knowledge, but this would give you something to look at instead of ranting and petitioning and could be a groundbreaking achievement

Some sporting organisations allow the supporters trust to present to the board, and sit in on some board members. Some sporting organisations invite the trust to appoint a board member.

A Trust would have a paid for subscription, which simply covers costs of running the Trust, nothing else. Perhaps $20 a year for a personal membership, $200 for a corporate membership.

The Trust would need its own constitution, and by laws, and a board to run it.

The suggestion would be the board made up of a selection of members, but perhaps including a board member of legal standing (and not already involved in sponsorship of the club).

If Wests Tigers saw a formalise supporters group, they would take the supporters groups more seriously and perhaps actually listen.
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'YOU'RE' a straight shooter cdinoz007...YOU'D have to be with 007 in 'YOUR' name.

This post of 'YOURS' is brilliant, so well written, "YOU'VE taken the WTF by storm Imo.
So many sensible suggestions and comments.

Bloody well done 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏.
YOU ARE a breath of fresh N.Z. mountain air, so invigorating.
 
Pascoes_barber said:
It can't, NRL control the licences. It's not even worth wasting brainpower on, I have no idea why anyone is giving this nonsense airtime.

That NZ bid (that has already failed) have reached out to a lot of clubs, not just 'Balmain' (who have about $2 to rub together BTW).
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I understand the NRL licence part I was more thinking through the hypothetical of why Stapleton would engage in these discussions at all if there was no potential.

To be honest, I’m so over the BS around both sides of the club wanting to be top Dog.
Just get on with setting the WT up for success and focusing on that and that alone
 
cdinoz007 said:
It's nothing like North Korea.

In North Korea, you have a gun pointed to your head to vote for the divine leader.

Here,
  1. You have a choice to join Holman Barnes Group
  2. You have a choice to go to the AGM
  3. You have a choice in voting for a board member
  4. You have a choice to request to become a general member
  5. You have a choice of 20 candidates to vote for as a general member to make 5 board members
Let's stop the emotive outbursts ... You'll gain more support from everywhere when you make salient points and your statements are factually backed and your sources are referencable.

There is a positive way forward here. I don't think your highly emotive approach is the right one. But you can get it right
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👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
 
Ron Brodrick's Spirit said:
If it's proven that Balmain are conspiring to leave the joint venture and form an NZ partnership does anyone disagree that the people involved should receive life bans?

Should Balmain receive a Board member suspension at the very least as punishment?
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As an ex Balmain supporter, absolutely should be banned.
Additionally, if there is a push to change the Wests Tigers to be Wests Magpies then those involved should also be banned.

Leave our NRL club alone and stop the factions, we are Wests Tigers.
 
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