Taylor said something that hurts

[stevetiger]

And Sheens didn't get the best out of Benji and Farah at crucial times in crucial games

The same issues , same club and still no accountability 16 seasons later

So your answer to no accountability is to not hold Taylor accountable. There is something illogical about this.

 

[stevetiger]

JT has been talking about toughening up for close to a year now, and we're still not there. Is it any wonder people are questioning him?

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/wests-tigers/jason-taylor-reveals-horrendous-salary-cap-situation-cruelling-wests-tigers-20150718-gif8ce.html#ixzz3gG3DXWq4

I want the guy to be successful because I freaken hate watching us lose but he is really the biggest muppet I have ever seen.

He came in here hanging crap on as many people as possible and stated simplistic comments that only a moron would buy. It completely failed last season. Then he handles the Farah situation as poorly as it is possible to handle the situation. Then this season starts out good but now the wheels have fallen off and he doesn't seem to have a clue how to change things around. He sounds better now compared to last year but he really set himself up for failure last year and in the off-season.

I know it's not all his fault but he comes across as so freaken inexperienced.

Apart from that he is ok?

I wonder what you think about Mick Potter, Terry Lamb, Junior, most of Sheens' career where we got the same low results.

Who got the same low results as good old JT and who came in speaking spin left right and centre.

To add to that Lamb got sacked as he should have been, Junior was let go as he should have been and Sheens was let go way too late.

I want Taylor to be successful but if we keep having dud seasons he has to go.

 

[happy_tiger]

And Sheens didn't get the best out of Benji and Farah at crucial times in crucial games

The same issues , same club and still no accountability 16 seasons later

So your answer to no accountability is to not hold Taylor accountable. There is something illogical about this.

Actually I'll be filthy at Taylor if Milone plays and Edwards isn't in the side

No Steve , some of us are prepared to throw mud at everyone who is at fault

You on the other hand …...........

 

[southerntiger]

It seems to me that the club has a culture problem. Until thats fixed it doesn't matter who is coach.

Funny how people think we lost on the weekend because Taylor selected Milone. Actually its not funny, it friggin embarrassing.

We aren't losing, and never have as far back as Sheens, because of team selections. We are losing because we are stupid footy team and have been for a long time. Until our key players learn to pay smart, it doesn't matter who we have around them

 

[stevetiger]

And Sheens didn't get the best out of Benji and Farah at crucial times in crucial games

The same issues , same club and still no accountability 16 seasons later

So your answer to no accountability is to not hold Taylor accountable. There is something illogical about this.

Actually I'll be filthy at Taylor if Milone plays and Edwards isn't in the side

No Steve , some of us are prepared to throw mud at everyone who is at fault

You on the other hand …...........

I'm more than prepared to throw mud at everyone.

 

[Harvey]

The team seems to lack energy and concentration at times. They have tried the gluten free diet, I think JT should introduce coffee enemas for the players.

 

[happy_tiger]

And Sheens didn't get the best out of Benji and Farah at crucial times in crucial games

The same issues , same club and still no accountability 16 seasons later

So your answer to no accountability is to not hold Taylor accountable. There is something illogical about this.

Actually I'll be filthy at Taylor if Milone plays and Edwards isn't in the side

No Steve , some of us are prepared to throw mud at everyone who is at fault

You on the other hand …...........

I'm more than prepared to throw mud at everyone.

I think you'd only throw mud at blokes standing near Taylor ….......oops

 

[jirskyr]

Apart from that he is ok?

I wonder what you think about Mick Potter, Terry Lamb, Junior, most of Sheens' career where we got the same low results.

Who got the same low results as good old JT and who came in speaking spin left right and centre.

To add to that Lamb got sacked as he should have been, Junior was let go as he should have been and Sheens was let go way too late.

I want Taylor to be successful but if we keep having dud seasons he has to go.

Well Mick Potter did. He came in talking about earning the right to play expansive football, focusing on a defensive platform… he got 7 wins that year, with losing streaks of 7 and 6\. Following year we win 5 out of the first 7, then 5 for the remainder of the year.

You seem so overwrought about things Taylor says, about press conferences and his comments about what he wants the team to do. You must write the word "spin" in every second post, but let's all be frank that every coach can be accused of "spinning" the media, whether they be winning or losing.

You reckon Wayne Bennett makes comments without a strategic intention, that he is not working on some angle to help himself and his club?

If results are all that matter, so be it, Taylor is well on his way to working elsewhere. But the constant denunciation, the ongoing commentary about your interpretation of what he thinks, what he can and cannot do... oh so boring.

Sure you can post whatever you like, but you are like a record stuck in a groove, and even an ok song gets irritating after 100 plays.

 

[innsaneink]

"I want Taylor to be successful, but…...."
"I want the team to win, but.... "
"I want JT to improve, but....."

E/W betting Steve.... Yawn

 

[Geo]

Way too many butt's for my liking….

What Taylor said in the presser L have heard every Coach say this year...they all spin faster than those rusty old roundabouts in the park...Bennett even had a go at his side that held the Dragons to blot...

What's said in pressers and what's said in the sheds can be entirely different...Tedesco's interview infers Taylor ripped them a new one after the game...lets see how this great Wests Tigers team responds...

 

[Guest]

Not sure I would refer to the team as great at the moment Geo. They're playing like amateurs at the moment.

 

[happy_tiger]

It seems to me that the club has a culture problem. Until thats fixed it doesn't matter who is coach.

Funny how people think we lost on the weekend because Taylor selected Milone. Actually its not funny, it friggin embarrassing.

We aren't losing, and never have as far back as Sheens, because of team selections. We are losing because we are stupid footy team and have been for a long time. Until our key players learn to pay smart, it doesn't matter who we have around them

Wingers on the bench ??

Small backs cum forwards ??

Its does have an effect ST , it puts too much pressure on other players in the side

 

[barra]

It seems to me that the club has a culture problem. Until thats fixed it doesn't matter who is coach.

Funny how people think we lost on the weekend because Taylor selected Milone. Actually its not funny, it friggin embarrassing.

We aren't losing, and never have as far back as Sheens, because of team selections. We are losing because we are stupid footy team and have been for a long time. Until our key players learn to pay smart, it doesn't matter who we have around them

Wingers on the bench ??

Small backs cum forwards ??

Its does have an effect ST , it puts too much pressure on other players in the side

The team and bench selection is even more important with the reduced interchange. The bench needs to be more effective than before but apart from one player ours usually lacks… well just about everything. Massive load for the others to carry and they are mostly not up to it.

 

[mike]

Unfortunately Wests Tigers will never win a comp whilst Jason Taylor is coach, it is never going to happen.

 

[southerntiger]

Why would the players care? They underperform run near the bottom of the ladder, the coach gets sacked and they get a new contract. New coach comes in, has the same cattle to work with. Gets the same results, gets sacked and the players stay on. The only coach that has made a big decision and tried to move on one of the mainstays, was forced into a backflip with the player telling the media that the coach apologised. I seriously wonder who runs this club.

Ok but he can make a statement at the selection table I am assuming?

No he cant Eddie. This is where you and half the forum just dont get it. Same as Potter in his first year here. The salary cap structure doesnt let Taylor just drop people. He has to balance his cap limit in case injuries hit. He cant have players playing 1 or 2 games a season (for non injury reasons) like Potter did. The salary cap means that you have to basically stick with your top 25 for the while season.

 

[southerntiger]

It seems to me that the club has a culture problem. Until thats fixed it doesn't matter who is coach.

Funny how people think we lost on the weekend because Taylor selected Milone. Actually its not funny, it friggin embarrassing.

We aren't losing, and never have as far back as Sheens, because of team selections. We are losing because we are stupid footy team and have been for a long time. Until our key players learn to pay smart, it doesn't matter who we have around them

Wingers on the bench ??

Small backs cum forwards ??

Its does have an effect ST , it puts too much pressure on other players in the side

Happy I agree getting the balance right can have an effect. However individual selections have little or no effect unless the persons name his Paul Carige.

In terms balance, the very things we whinge about on here - light benches, picking nuffies - are the same things that all coaches do from time to time. People are just very insular on this forum and think we are some exception.

Taylor has made some poor choices at times. Three hookers. Resigning Lovett. Letting Nathan Brown go. But his choices are not costing us games. He was saddled with two young immature halves who he cannot drop. The young halves are the primary reason we have lost 5 in a row. Im not blaming them as they are young and closing out games comes with maturity.

Funnily in all 5 games we have lost, we have been he better side for at least 40 mins. I dont recall the last time that happened.

This pretty average squad has been competitive in every game.

 

[innsaneink]

Why would the players care? They underperform run near the bottom of the ladder, the coach gets sacked and they get a new contract. New coach comes in, has the same cattle to work with. Gets the same results, gets sacked and the players stay on. The only coach that has made a big decision and tried to move on one of the mainstays, was forced into a backflip with the player telling the media that the coach apologised. I seriously wonder who runs this club.

Ok but he can make a statement at the selection table I am assuming?

No he cant Eddie. This is where you and half the forum just dont get it. Same as Potter in his first year here. The salary cap structure doesnt let Taylor just drop people. He has to balance his cap limit in case injuries hit. He cant have players playing 1 or 2 games a season (for non injury reasons) like Potter did. The salary cap means that you have to basically stick with your top 25 for the while season.

Correct