jirskyr
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@Newtown said:
We really don't have the depth to drop the number of players who deserve to be dropped.
Taylor said something that hurts
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We really don't have the depth to drop the number of players who deserve to be dropped.
@Eddie said:
apparently they had a shoot out a few weeks ago and moses won. seems like a fair enough way to select the kicker
after a few weeks of poor kicking he was dropped, again fair enough.
our kicking duties is far and away one of the least concerning things about JT or the club
@jirskyr said:
x2
picking JAC, Heleta for simona or some other fringe first grader to replace lovett solves very little. We need a controlling half which Brooks isnt right now and we need another strong second rower to replace lovett/halatau. Someone with some real power behind then and can tighten up our defence.
personally i would give JT 2 more weeks to see if he cant spark something within the team. woods and sue were enormous blows for us in our go forward today, makes the halves jobs impossible. i thought our D was pretty solid against the Eels - still missing some key parts in our overall game though. Sharks/Knights were very poor however.
realistically we need to be investigating a replacement coach now. feelers etc. within 2-4 weeks we should look at sigining someone like toovey or ivan cleary and making it public a couple weeks after that if things havent changed.
Taylor's Press Conference is spot on. The question is Why are we taking soft options?, Why do we need to toughen up?, Why do we need to train tough? WHY? This was what we were supposedly doing throughout the whole of last year and this offseason. 30 games later and we are talking the same story.
This is against a squad Knights squad that Nathan Brown said the offseason was 2 years ahead of the Knights in their rebuilding phase.
This is against a squad Knights squad that Nathan Brown said the offseason was 2 years ahead of the Knights in their rebuilding phase.
Coach…well the word says it all,if your the coach its your responsibility to prepare,train and select the team,if players dont respond then dont pick them.Knowing your not going to get dropped probably doesn't help with player attitude either,but is that JT doing or are his hands tired due to the fear of salary cap breaches...?
I watched JT being interviewed about the possibility of Benji returning. He said something that left me feeling concerned, along the lines of, Moses and Brooks are the future….... He repeated it like a mantra and something he had been told but did not believe. That implies to me his hands are tied. I hope not.
Most things being said Taylor needs to do were being done by Potter….. Trained them harder, got benji out, benched players and fixed injury problems. Just some front office muppets wouldn't let him run the team and a white ant of a reserves coach did his best to undermine everything
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We scored some very good tries in our opening two games, but you know what else we did well? The forwards went forward and dominated the ruck, we were getting quick play the balls and working off the back of it. That sadly has dropped away, along with our completion rate and it's obvious we don't have it in us to grind out a game for 80 minutes. Until we can get in the grind we're going to be bottom 4 every year.
@WTDiehard said:
The above is true , however Taylor keeps picking the muppets who are doing this ,so it is his fault.Whether the team loses by 2 or 50 you don't get the two points so try some players from lower grades, we might get lucky.Our season is over now if he makes the same selections again, don't start me on Milone!
Joel Helmes
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There are a few problems we face, many start off the field and relate to culture and direction. Sheens managed to get enough support from one side of the JV (Balmain) and used this to have control over the football operations.
Potter never had a chance and Taylor is already gone - as the boss you can't recover from something like the Farah debacle.
In 2016, on field, our problem is the mix of players, the balance in the team is wrong. We have some strengths but our weaknesses are pronounced - these include two young halves. We need to drop Brooks and put a more level-headed and experienced player next to Moses, he is the one I would be keeping.
We lost Simona - we lost pace
Naiqama - winger/finisher only
Backrow - we need a more dominant player than Halatau/Lovett, this is especially with Lawrence on the other side (who is doing well).
Sironen - he has good skills but is only ever used as a battering ram and that is not his strength.
Bench - our bench has consistently lacked punch (excluding times when we had guys like Taupau there, though that didn't last long.)
Potter never had a chance and Taylor is already gone - as the boss you can't recover from something like the Farah debacle.
In 2016, on field, our problem is the mix of players, the balance in the team is wrong. We have some strengths but our weaknesses are pronounced - these include two young halves. We need to drop Brooks and put a more level-headed and experienced player next to Moses, he is the one I would be keeping.
We lost Simona - we lost pace
Naiqama - winger/finisher only
Backrow - we need a more dominant player than Halatau/Lovett, this is especially with Lawrence on the other side (who is doing well).
Sironen - he has good skills but is only ever used as a battering ram and that is not his strength.
Bench - our bench has consistently lacked punch (excluding times when we had guys like Taupau there, though that didn't last long.)
Pawsandclaws
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@willow said:
I agree with what you have said and believe we need players who are football aware. Gould made this comment yesterday in the context of our players not being aware of what is actually happening on the field. The only two players who fall into this category are Farah and Moses. We need to recruit with a view to this and you only have to look at players such as Milford, Soward, Foran, JT, Gallen, Widdop and co to understand what these players bring to a team.
@willow said:
So true, and this comes down to attitude. We go out and do the above for 2 weeks in a row, so then we think we can do it every week. This is inbred into the Tigers, we've been doing it for years.
Until we change our attitude we will be, as you said in the bottom 4\. This then comes down to the coach and I don't think Taylor is capable of changing this.
I don't think Taylor meant it literally. They're probably being pushed to their physical peak at training, I have little doubt about that. I think he is referring to the mental application of the players more than anything.
That has dogged us for years, we've lacked resolve to do what is necessary to come away with the win. Too many times yesterday we pushed the pass early in the tackle count in good territory, or threw the pass that was never on in motion and settling the play. Passes to no one, no urgency in defence, no line speed. It has plagued us for years. This goes higher than Taylor, it's a club culture.
That has dogged us for years, we've lacked resolve to do what is necessary to come away with the win. Too many times yesterday we pushed the pass early in the tackle count in good territory, or threw the pass that was never on in motion and settling the play. Passes to no one, no urgency in defence, no line speed. It has plagued us for years. This goes higher than Taylor, it's a club culture.
Tuiaki_Chicken_Wings
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Taylor had a dig at the players, basically saying they let him and themselves down. If they aren't training hard why is that? Why not call them out during the week instead of calling them out in public. That is not going to give the players any lift in confidence. Yes the players need to take a long hard look at themselves and work out whats going on, but Taylor needs to think long and hard about his decisions picking his teams.
Picking players out of position (Ranko who did well for 98% of game yesterday), players who don't deserve to be in firsts (Hala, Buchanan, Lovett, Milone hell even Siro and Brooks i'd throw here), picking a side a few weeks back with 3 hookers and picking a small and "weak" second row and bench. These things put pressure on our team. You can tell that some players in our team don't have the confidence of there fellow players.
Picking players out of position (Ranko who did well for 98% of game yesterday), players who don't deserve to be in firsts (Hala, Buchanan, Lovett, Milone hell even Siro and Brooks i'd throw here), picking a side a few weeks back with 3 hookers and picking a small and "weak" second row and bench. These things put pressure on our team. You can tell that some players in our team don't have the confidence of there fellow players.
Basically we are at a disadvantage of 20-25% every time we take the field when you field the likes of Lovett,Buchanan,Milone and Rankin,and Halatau,then when you add in players who are dissapointing and or are very slowly finding their feet in FG it's little wonder we keep lossing.
Is there any other team in the NRL that continually fields sub standard players as much as the WT?
Is there any other team in the NRL that continually fields sub standard players as much as the WT?
851
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@Chevy said:
No there is not, other coach's drop players, ours unfortunately has no idea.
