Taylors favourite quote

@stevetiger said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
''Just go out and have fun boys''

We should all get a run as well. There should be a competition where fans get 2 of the spots on the reserve bench each week.

Happy will want to play in his black white and gold fishnets, if Geo hasn't borrowed them.
 
@Squaddy said:
I pay $400+ a year on my membership which I've renewed since 2007.

Why am I paying if it doesn't matter about the ladder or results? I don't even know what I'm meant to be appreciating in a performance. We conceded 28 points to a team who is equally poor. We squandered a decent halftime lead.

For the coach to come out and say it was a strong performance makes no sense whatsoever. Explain to us what a strong performance looks like and I might be less critical. At the moment, I just feel like I'm being 100% taken for granted as a full paying member

A Strong performance for me starts with us not being soft.
As we have mostly been , still am, and will remain like that until we get a Coach who won't accept that, and make inane excuses every time we let an opposition player stroll over our line , looking like he's on a Sunday walk.
 
@larrycorowa said:
We would have lost this game by 50 last year. You blokes have short memories….

Of course results are important, but instead of whinging about the refs and finding excuses Taylor chooses to focus on our performance and some of the gains we are making. Seems like a logical stance given that he is working with a young group who have heaps of areas to improve in.

That may be just around the corner. The 50 points, I mean
 
@Droppy said:
This guy makes Sheens & Potter look like Bennett & Belamey.
Worst coach in the comp.

Why be so negative ? Everything is going to plan. Our defensive structures look so much better.

Or you are probably correct.
 
In order to attract and keep sponsors and members I always thought winning was the key.

When will the club see that it's a comp driven by results. We have been rebuilding for 10 years now.

When will they see that an inexperienced coach can't lead a team of inexperienced players and what can we expect from an inexperienced board…

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@cattivo said:
In order to attract and keep sponsors and members I always thought winning was the key.

When will the club see that it's a comp driven by results. We have been rebuilding for 10 years now.

When will they see that an inexperienced coach can't lead a team of inexperienced players and what can we expect from an inexperienced board…

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You don't need fans and money to run a rugby league club. Complete disagree with this post.
 
@Eddie said:
@happy tiger said:
@cktiger said:
I thought we went ok tonight with half the backline being reserve graders plus Farah and Woods out and a rort with the penalties - still no reason to be happy .
I wish Taylor would show some passion .
Ricky Stuart would have copped $10,000 after that second half penalty count !

It was a real good performance ,

We have so many deficiencies defensively its just a matter of time till they find the one that will work

Happy stop making excuses for him in this regard.

His whole mantra coming in was his defensive system. He said it was all to do with system not players.

**He said it would be easy to turn around the defence and bagged previous coaches.**

Seriously, the coach needs to lift as well as the players.

We is not sounding so bullish now about his system. it was really smug how he bagged former coaches and it is coming back to bite him now as he find different ways to say sitting in last place that we are improving.

Honestly its becoming excruciating to watch his press conference. I honestly am not not sure he beleives what he is saying. If he does its a worry.

Just a small thing but I dont recall him saying it would be easy
 
@ryanda01 said:
@cattivo said:
In order to attract and keep sponsors and members I always thought winning was the key.

When will the club see that it's a comp driven by results. We have been rebuilding for 10 years now.

When will they see that an inexperienced coach can't lead a team of inexperienced players and what can we expect from an inexperienced board…

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You don't need fans and money to run a rugby league club. Complete disagree with this post.

We don't even have a club and if it's not the members and sponsors that make a club what does?

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@innsaneink said:
@Eddie said:
@happy tiger said:
@cktiger said:
I thought we went ok tonight with half the backline being reserve graders plus Farah and Woods out and a rort with the penalties - still no reason to be happy .
I wish Taylor would show some passion .
Ricky Stuart would have copped $10,000 after that second half penalty count !

It was a real good performance ,

We have so many deficiencies defensively its just a matter of time till they find the one that will work

Happy stop making excuses for him in this regard.

His whole mantra coming in was his defensive system. He said it was all to do with system not players.

**He said it would be easy to turn around the defence and bagged previous coaches.**

Seriously, the coach needs to lift as well as the players.

We is not sounding so bullish now about his system. it was really smug how he bagged former coaches and it is coming back to bite him now as he find different ways to say sitting in last place that we are improving.

Honestly its becoming excruciating to watch his press conference. I honestly am not not sure he beleives what he is saying. If he does its a worry.

Just a small thing but I dont recall him saying it would be easy

JT did though state it was previous coaches and players faults and his structures would fix everything.

Its obvious that we have gone backwards.

I think we can safely state that JT is a dud coach. The question is can he improve ?
 
Well personally I think JT's only objective this year is to have better "points against" numbers at the end of the year.

That way he can say that his strategy is working

2012 - 551 against
2013 - 687 against
2014 - 631 against
2015 - 341 against YTD

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@Gary Bakerloo said:
@happy tiger said:
Please don't wish that on us

It was a real good performance , but just proves what I have said

We have so many deficiencies defensively its just a matter of time till they find the one that will work

Taylor can only pick the best squad available each week a squad that many thought would get beaten by 30

They were in it for 73 minutes , really copped the wrong end of the pineapple on some calls and had 12 less sets in attack and missed less tackles

How many players from the Round 1 game weren't there ??

Brooks ,Farah ,Sironen ,Woods , Simona and no Nofoaluma as well

Two tries conceded from kicks, Tedesco's "try" disallowed and a poor refereeing performance. It is evident with Simona out, we can't defend down the right. Interestingly, I thought we were solid in defence on the left.

They were in the game, but I think they have forgotten how to win, plus if something goes against them, be it a ref decision or a lucky opposition try, they fall apart. When the stars align, this team plays some excellent footy, but if something is amiss, they lose every time.

True Gary. The boys do tend to hang their heads , when things don't go their way. That's when the trainer should run up and give them a spoonful of concrete…Princesses! :unamused:
 
@cqtiger said:
Well personally I think JT's only objective this year is to have better "points against" numbers at the end of the year.

That way he can say that his strategy is working

2012 - 551 against
2013 - 687 against
2014 - 631 against
2015 - 341 against YTD

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The problem with those figures CQ , is that in isolation , they don't mean much.
Yes, they give the actual points, but it doesn't really show the quality of our defence (same with attacking figures)
We have a lopsided competition with not playing everyone twice,
If we play all the top 8 teams twice in a season, it's a good chance that we will have a lot more points against us in that year than we would if we only play them once.
Also if we play the Top sides during the Origin, period we would think that we should have less points against us over that time.

Other things influence the number of points scored for and against such as, did a lot of games take place in bad weather( possibly less points scored either way, ) or at night
Did we (or our opposing team ) have a large list of injuries?
The last rounds of last year was an example of us taking the field with almost a whole backline made up with forwards playing out of position. ( more points against)
Same for our opposition, if they were injury ravaged, then it's likely that we will have less points against.
All these things and more, can influence the actual,points in individual games or seasons,
Even down to, did Farah play or not. With his defence rate, if he is not there, then we could expect that maybe more points would be scored against.( as there is no one else that can take over his workload)
Did we or the opposition have suspensions??

These are not excuses . Just reasons why , the points scored are only part of the picture.
Its possible that we ( or any team) could have won more games in a season, where we have the highest points against us , than we did in the season where we had our lowestpoints against us.
The uneven nature of this competition makes it almost impossible to compare a lot of statistics , as there is no even base to start from
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@cqtiger said:
Well personally I think JT's only objective this year is to have better "points against" numbers at the end of the year.

That way he can say that his strategy is working

2012 - 551 against
2013 - 687 against
2014 - 631 against
2015 - 341 against YTD

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The problem with those figures CQ , is that in isolation , they don't mean much.
Yes, they give the actual points, but it doesn't really show the quality of our defence (same with attacking figures)
We have a lopsided competition with not playing everyone twice,
If we play all the top 8 teams twice in a season, it's a good chance that we will have a lot more points against us in that year than we would if we only play them once.
Also if we play the Top sides during the Origin, period we would think that we should have less points against us over that time.

Other things influence the number of points scored for and against such as, did a lot of games take place in bad weather( possibly less points scored either way, ) or at night
Did we (or our opposing team ) have a large list of injuries?
The last rounds of last year was an example of us taking the field with almost a whole backline made up with forwards playing out of position. ( more points against)
Same for our opposition, if they were injury ravaged, then it's likely that we will have less points against.
All these things and more, can influence the actual,points in individual games or seasons,
Even down to, did Farah play or not. With his defence rate, if he is not there, then we could expect that maybe more points would be scored against.( as there is no one else that can take over his workload)
Did we or the opposition have suspensions??

These are not excuses . Just reasons why , the points scored are only part of the picture.
Its possible that we ( or any team) could have won more games in a season, where we have the highest points against us , than we did in the season where we had our lowestpoints against us.
The uneven nature of this competition makes it almost impossible to compare a lot of statistics , as there is no even base to start from

Agree with all that GCT, I'm only saying that the only KPI that Taylor seems to have is the season's points against stats. The stats, one can argue, is the only quantitative data needed. All the other stuff is qualitative or subjective.

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@cqtiger said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@cqtiger said:
Well personally I think JT's only objective this year is to have better "points against" numbers at the end of the year.

That way he can say that his strategy is working

2012 - 551 against
2013 - 687 against
2014 - 631 against
2015 - 341 against YTD

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The problem with those figures CQ , is that in isolation , they don't mean much.
Yes, they give the actual points, but it doesn't really show the quality of our defence (same with attacking figures)
We have a lopsided competition with not playing everyone twice,
If we play all the top 8 teams twice in a season, it's a good chance that we will have a lot more points against us in that year than we would if we only play them once.
Also if we play the Top sides during the Origin, period we would think that we should have less points against us over that time.

Other things influence the number of points scored for and against such as, did a lot of games take place in bad weather( possibly less points scored either way, ) or at night
Did we (or our opposing team ) have a large list of injuries?
The last rounds of last year was an example of us taking the field with almost a whole backline made up with forwards playing out of position. ( more points against)
Same for our opposition, if they were injury ravaged, then it's likely that we will have less points against.
All these things and more, can influence the actual,points in individual games or seasons,
Even down to, did Farah play or not. With his defence rate, if he is not there, then we could expect that maybe more points would be scored against.( as there is no one else that can take over his workload)
Did we or the opposition have suspensions??

These are not excuses . Just reasons why , the points scored are only part of the picture.
Its possible that we ( or any team) could have won more games in a season, where we have the highest points against us , than we did in the season where we had our lowestpoints against us.
The uneven nature of this competition makes it almost impossible to compare a lot of statistics , as there is no even base to start from

Agree with all that GCT, I'm only saying that the only KPI that Taylor seems to have is the season's points against stats. The stats, one can argue, is the only quantitative data needed. All the other stuff is qualitative or subjective.

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I agree entirely that that is all he cares about , hence the stupid game plan.

My point was only that those figures can't be compared to give an indication as to whether we are any better or not, as there are too many variables in the comparison.
Then again, knowing this club, that could may well be the only indicator that he has to meet.
Us Mushrooms don't get told anything, . It's more likely that there is no KPIs
 
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