Tevita Pangai Junior

[Spartan117]

I hate when people say this but im going to say it.

If our so called fans are sooking because the Bulldogs have or might sign someone we are interested in well then go and support the Bulldogs.

People who actually understand where this club is at understand the recruitment we have already done and how it will project over the next couple of seasons.

Stop being miserable losers and find the bigger picture.

As a society we demand instant gratification.

Almost 2 decades of failure has left the WTs with a negative brand amongst players. That's the sad truth.

We need to embrace this legitimate rebuild of on and off the field. ITS Happening.

Need the right players at the right price acrosss the squad.

 

[cochise]

I hate when people say this but im going to say it.

If our so called fans are sooking because the Bulldogs have or might sign someone we are interested in well then go and support the Bulldogs.

People who actually understand where this club is at understand the recruitment we have already done and how it will project over the next couple of seasons.

Stop being miserable losers and find the bigger picture.

Tuki Simpkins will do me... hungry and keen to learn..

Was great in attack yesterday, he has a big future.

 

[WT2K]

If it was a long term dynasty or NFL fantasy comparison I'd be happy to settle with Tuki.

We don't need to mortgage the club to sign him and he may turn out to be just as good.

If we miss TPJ I'm ok with that.

This is where I'm at too.

 

[happy_tiger]

I hate when people say this but im going to say it.

If our so called fans are sooking because the Bulldogs have or might sign someone we are interested in well then go and support the Bulldogs.

People who actually understand where this club is at understand the recruitment we have already done and how it will project over the next couple of seasons.

Stop being miserable losers and find the bigger picture.

Tuki Simpkins will do me... hungry and keen to learn..

One bad miss in D ...take that out and he was a 7/10

 

[Spartan117]

Dont worry, salary cap turmoil is a very real risk for the Dogs.

 

[yeahcaz]

Not fussed if we don't get him. Will eat too much salary cap and is very risky given his inconsistency.

We have to sign someone and he's by far and away the best available. He also addresses a couple of weaknesses (offloads and impact).

Going into next year with Gildart and Hastings as our major signings will be a complete disaster.

The attitude of "we have to sign someone" is exactly what got us in this salary cap mess. The club appears to have decided to take the patient approach, and Madge confirmed that when he said we will be not looking at a "quick fix, bandaid approach".

Titans still suck with Fifita and Tino. Bulldogs still suck with Thompson, Flanagan, Cotric, and Allan. Look at the top teams and how many "big name" signings they made in the prior few years.

Well it’s taking us from a salary cap mess to a no one wants to play for us mess because 1. We’re rubbish, from pretty much top to bottom as an organisation and 2. We won’t pay overs for anyone.

All these youngsters will leave after their first deals because their clearly isn’t any intent to drastically improve the team anytime soon

Pangai is not the guy to pay overs on, we already went past what we wanted to pay. If he goes to the dogs for more than so be it.

Then I hope this club is ready to embrace the spoon next season. Regardless of how much the bulldogs are paying their players next year, it’s a drastically better side than ours. Every other club around us is improving and we are completely stuck in the mud

We are improving, did you notice who the better players were yesterday?

Exactly! New signings isn't the only way a squad improves - the experience our youngsters like Laurie, Stefano and Simpkins are picking up will put us in a better position next year even in the absence of big name signings. These blokes have me excited for the future.

They are the big names of the near future

And they’ll be at another club by the time they’re a big name because this club can’t improve the situation around them

Can't get any more negative than that.

I’d love to be proved wrong, but I’m pretty confident I’ll be right. This club is still in need of drastic change and I don’t buy any paper over cracks win over a garbage team on the weekend

 

[Spartan117]

I hate when people say this but im going to say it.

If our so called fans are sooking because the Bulldogs have or might sign someone we are interested in well then go and support the Bulldogs.

People who actually understand where this club is at understand the recruitment we have already done and how it will project over the next couple of seasons.

Stop being miserable losers and find the bigger picture.

Tuki Simpkins will do me... hungry and keen to learn..

Was great in attack yesterday, he has a big future.

Only 19yo

 

[Geo]

I hate when people say this but im going to say it.

If our so called fans are sooking because the Bulldogs have or might sign someone we are interested in well then go and support the Bulldogs.

People who actually understand where this club is at understand the recruitment we have already done and how it will project over the next couple of seasons.

Stop being miserable losers and find the bigger picture.

Tuki Simpkins will do me... hungry and keen to learn..

One bad miss in D ...take that out and he was a 7/10

Like no one in Rugby League at 19 has ever missed Payne Haas..

 

[TigerWest]

Dont worry, salary cap turmoil is a very real risk for the Dogs.

And Barrett and Gould start squabbling about how the team should be playing?

 

[yeahcaz]

I hate when people say this but im going to say it.

If our so called fans are sooking because the Bulldogs have or might sign someone we are interested in well then go and support the Bulldogs.

People who actually understand where this club is at understand the recruitment we have already done and how it will project over the next couple of seasons.

Stop being miserable losers and find the bigger picture.

As a society we demand instant gratification.

Almost 2 decades of failure has left the WTs with a negative brand amongst players. That's the sad truth.

We need to embrace this legitimate rebuild of on and off the field. ITS Happening.

Need the right players at the right price acrosss the squad.

Hard to tell this fan base be patient when we’ve made the finals 3 times when we’ve existed for over 2 decades

 

[The_Patriot]

I hate when people say this but im going to say it.

If our so called fans are sooking because the Bulldogs have or might sign someone we are interested in well then go and support the Bulldogs.

People who actually understand where this club is at understand the recruitment we have already done and how it will project over the next couple of seasons.

Stop being miserable losers and find the bigger picture.

Tuki Simpkins will do me... hungry and keen to learn..

One bad miss in D ...take that out and he was a 7/10

They really need to be the next incarnation of Sonny Bill for you to be excited dont they.

So many miserable posts today.

 

[cochise]

Not fussed if we don't get him. Will eat too much salary cap and is very risky given his inconsistency.

We have to sign someone and he's by far and away the best available. He also addresses a couple of weaknesses (offloads and impact).

Going into next year with Gildart and Hastings as our major signings will be a complete disaster.

The attitude of "we have to sign someone" is exactly what got us in this salary cap mess. The club appears to have decided to take the patient approach, and Madge confirmed that when he said we will be not looking at a "quick fix, bandaid approach".

Titans still suck with Fifita and Tino. Bulldogs still suck with Thompson, Flanagan, Cotric, and Allan. Look at the top teams and how many "big name" signings they made in the prior few years.

Well it’s taking us from a salary cap mess to a no one wants to play for us mess because 1. We’re rubbish, from pretty much top to bottom as an organisation and 2. We won’t pay overs for anyone.

All these youngsters will leave after their first deals because their clearly isn’t any intent to drastically improve the team anytime soon

Pangai is not the guy to pay overs on, we already went past what we wanted to pay. If he goes to the dogs for more than so be it.

Then I hope this club is ready to embrace the spoon next season. Regardless of how much the bulldogs are paying their players next year, it’s a drastically better side than ours. Every other club around us is improving and we are completely stuck in the mud

We are improving, did you notice who the better players were yesterday?

Exactly! New signings isn't the only way a squad improves - the experience our youngsters like Laurie, Stefano and Simpkins are picking up will put us in a better position next year even in the absence of big name signings. These blokes have me excited for the future.

They are the big names of the near future

And they’ll be at another club by the time they’re a big name because this club can’t improve the situation around them

Can't get any more negative than that.

I’d love to be proved wrong, but I’m pretty confident I’ll be right. This club is still in need of drastic change and I don’t buy any paper over cracks win over a garbage team on the weekend

I'm not talking about the win yesterday, our way out of this is not by buying players. We aren't attractive enough to do that and there is only one thing that can change that. We need to stick to the path we are on, attract the best quality juniors from around the country and develop them into high quality NRL players. It is the only way out.

You don't get out of it by throwing stupid money at the likes of TPJ, despite how much I want him here.

 

[happy_tiger]

I hate when people say this but im going to say it.

If our so called fans are sooking because the Bulldogs have or might sign someone we are interested in well then go and support the Bulldogs.

People who actually understand where this club is at understand the recruitment we have already done and how it will project over the next couple of seasons.

Stop being miserable losers and find the bigger picture.

Tuki Simpkins will do me... hungry and keen to learn..

One bad miss in D ...take that out and he was a 7/10

Like no one in Rugby League at 19 has ever missed Payne Haas..

I've never missed him ......actually you have never missed him either .....

 

[cochise]

I hate when people say this but im going to say it.

If our so called fans are sooking because the Bulldogs have or might sign someone we are interested in well then go and support the Bulldogs.

People who actually understand where this club is at understand the recruitment we have already done and how it will project over the next couple of seasons.

Stop being miserable losers and find the bigger picture.

Tuki Simpkins will do me... hungry and keen to learn..

Was great in attack yesterday, he has a big future.

Only 19yo

I was really impressed, it was a great debut.

 

[supercoach]

You can have all the young talent in the world but without some top shelve quality around them it will be very difficult for them to reach their full potential.

I understand that when your chasing a player and there are multiple clubs doing the same your going to miss your man sometimes, but to miss your man basically every time you have to ask serious questions why.

All clubs need the odd big name signing, it generates interest that translates into memberships on top of what they bring to the team. Ok our last few big name signings from Ivan’s days turned out to be duds but that was just bad recruitment.

 

[TigerWest]

I hate when people say this but im going to say it.

If our so called fans are sooking because the Bulldogs have or might sign someone we are interested in well then go and support the Bulldogs.

People who actually understand where this club is at understand the recruitment we have already done and how it will project over the next couple of seasons.

Stop being miserable losers and find the bigger picture.

As a society we demand instant gratification.

Almost 2 decades of failure has left the WTs with a negative brand amongst players. That's the sad truth.

We need to embrace this legitimate rebuild of on and off the field. ITS Happening.

Need the right players at the right price acrosss the squad.

Hard to tell this fan base be patient when we’ve made the finals 3 times when we’ve existed for over 2 decades

We are all aware of our history, but we are fans and most can see the improvements happening and coming.

 

[yeahcaz]

You can have all the young talent in the world but without some top shelve quality around them it will be very difficult for them to reach their full potential.

I understand that when your chasing a player and there are multiple clubs doing the same your going to miss your man sometimes, but to miss your man basically every time you have to ask serious questions why.

All clubs need the odd big name signing, it generates interest that translates into memberships on top of what they bring to the team. Ok our last few big name signings from Ivan’s days turned out to be duds but that was just bad recruitment.

Exactly.

 

[happy_tiger]

I hate when people say this but im going to say it.

If our so called fans are sooking because the Bulldogs have or might sign someone we are interested in well then go and support the Bulldogs.

People who actually understand where this club is at understand the recruitment we have already done and how it will project over the next couple of seasons.

Stop being miserable losers and find the bigger picture.

Tuki Simpkins will do me... hungry and keen to learn..

One bad miss in D ...take that out and he was a 7/10


They really need to be the next incarnation of Sonny Bill for you to be excited dont they.

So many miserable posts today.

7/10 is good ...you realize that .....

 

[Newtown]

Not fussed if we don't get him. Will eat too much salary cap and is very risky given his inconsistency.

We have to sign someone and he's by far and away the best available. He also addresses a couple of weaknesses (offloads and impact).

Going into next year with Gildart and Hastings as our major signings will be a complete disaster.

The attitude of "we have to sign someone" is exactly what got us in this salary cap mess. The club appears to have decided to take the patient approach, and Madge confirmed that when he said we will be not looking at a "quick fix, bandaid approach".

Titans still suck with Fifita and Tino. Bulldogs still suck with Thompson, Flanagan, Cotric, and Allan. Look at the top teams and how many "big name" signings they made in the prior few years.

Well it’s taking us from a salary cap mess to a no one wants to play for us mess because 1. We’re rubbish, from pretty much top to bottom as an organisation and 2. We won’t pay overs for anyone.

All these youngsters will leave after their first deals because their clearly isn’t any intent to drastically improve the team anytime soon

Pangai is not the guy to pay overs on, we already went past what we wanted to pay. If he goes to the dogs for more than so be it.

Then I hope this club is ready to embrace the spoon next season. Regardless of how much the bulldogs are paying their players next year, it’s a drastically better side than ours. Every other club around us is improving and we are completely stuck in the mud

We are improving, did you notice who the better players were yesterday?

Exactly! New signings isn't the only way a squad improves - the experience our youngsters like Laurie, Stefano and Simpkins are picking up will put us in a better position next year even in the absence of big name signings. These blokes have me excited for the future.

Give me a break, we played the wooden spooners. It’s a legit coinflip between the bulldogs and broncos as the worst team in the Comp. the difference ? They’ll improve next year with their signings.

I’ll come back in a weeks time after we’ve copped 40-50 from manly and you can tell me how much we’re “improving”

If we're not allowed get overly-positive after beating Brisbane, by the same token we shouldn't get all 'woe is me' after a thrashing at the hands of someone like Melbourne, who is flogging anyone that comes their way.

I do think it is a fair observation that our best performers this year are are young blokes who should only get better. While our worst (or total non-performers) are the older, dead wood like Mbye, Packer, BJ, that will all be gone in the next year or two.

Your observation is spot on. Nervous nellies on this forum are crying out for a player (Pangai) who based on his childish performances at Brisbane is ready to follow the same path as MBye, Packer and BJ who followed the motto "I am guaranteed big money no matter how badly or lazily I play. Wests tigers must base their team on quality players who really want to play for West tigers.

 

[The_Patriot]

You can have all the young talent in the world but without some top shelve quality around them it will be very difficult for them to reach their full potential.

I understand that when your chasing a player and there are multiple clubs doing the same your going to miss your man sometimes, but to miss your man basically every time you have to ask serious questions why.

All clubs need the odd big name signing, it generates interest that translates into memberships on top of what they bring to the team. Ok our last few big name signings from Ivan’s days turned out to be duds but that was just bad recruitment.

Thats not really how the Panthers built it is it. Besides Maloney who would be considered a reasonable but not top shelf signing they built it from the ground up.

Teams like Newcastle however are still struggling due to a lack of depth and junior talent.