Tevita Pangai Junior

@clontarfkid said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391403) said:
@jc99 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1390981) said:
Loose cannon? Madge will get best out of him’: Tamou backs Pangai to thrive at Tigers
By Christian Nicolussi
June 18, 2021 — 6.22pm
Wests Tigers skipper James Tamou knows Tevita Pangai Jr would thrive with a change of scenery and any concerns about his discipline, on and off the field, would quickly be ironed out by “no-nonsense” coach Michael Maguire.

The Tigers first approached the Broncos six weeks ago about luring Pangai to the joint venture, only for Brisbane officials to pass.


Tevita Pangai Junior has opened up on his contract drama at Red Hill as he prepares to shop himself on the NRL market.
On Wednesday, the Broncos backflipped and told Pangai Jr he was free to find a deal elsewhere, and initially hoped the news would be kept quiet until after their 46-0 thrashing against South Sydney. Pangai himself admitted he was told on his day off to be told he could chase a deal elsewhere, even remarking in a post-match TV interview that “contracts don’t mean much these days”.

Brisbane gave Pangai’s management official permission to negotiate with rival clubs on Friday and the Tigers are viewed as the early favourites because of the interest they showed earlier this season.

Pangai is earning around $650,000 this year before the final year of his existing contract jumps closer to $800,000. Brisbane coach Kevin Walters remains hopeful of coaching his son Billy who is with the Tigers, and any swap deal with Pangai, along with any money the Broncos would pay towards the rest of his contract, would be favourable for the Tigers’ salary cap.


Pangai is one of the most devastating and explosive back-rowers in the game, but has been inconsistent and has a poor on-field disciplinary record.

He is facing a three-week ban for a crusher tackle on Cameron Murray on Thursday, an offence which would have normally carried a one-match ban had it not been for the Tongan international’s loading from previous offences.

Brait Anasta said on Thursday night’s Fox Sports coverage that the Tigers might be better chasing a senior player who is more reliable. “If I’m the Tigers, I’m looking for a player that you just know what you’re going to get every week,” Anasta added.

Given his likely unavailability for the next month, the Tigers could let the Broncos continue to pick up Pangai’s tab, or sign him now and give him three weeks in Maguire’s care.

The Tigers know Pangai is not reaching his full potential. Former Broncos coach Wayne Bennett was not subtle after Thursday’s game when he said about Pangai being told he could leave: “Well, he came here because of me, OK, he came here because he wanted to play under me, but that was taken away from him.”

Tigers officials have made a point of not wanting to publicly declare their interest in Pangai. They did so with Latrell Mitchell and Josh Addo-Carr, only for fans to feel short-changed when that pair signed elsewhere.

Tamou, however, was happy to tell the Herald that Pangai would be a welcome addition to the Tigers’ forward pack. The Tigers’ captain pointed out another Broncos forward who had his own off-field indiscretions at Red Hill, Joe Ofahengaue, had thrived with the move to Sydney and even found his way back into the Queensland Origin team.

“Sometimes players can go stale and a change of coach and scenery can bring out the best in you,” Tamou said. “[Pangai] has shown what a powerhouse he is and he’s a game-breaker when used the right way. He would be an asset to any team he goes to.

“Every club is always on the lookout for a player of his calibre.

“If he is a bit of a loose cannon, ‘Madge’ [Maguire] will get the best out of him. Madge is a no-nonsense type of coach and I could see him working out well here.

$650 going up to $800 next year....!No wonder Broncos have cap problems..and they wanted Fifita at $1.1mil too..
Factoring all risks,particularly that hes likely to miss half a dozen games next year unless he improves his discipline on and off the field,hes not really worth what hes being paid THIS year,so will be an interesting negotiation.
**Not sure how Walters Jnr is a factor as hes off contract this year and free to go...**?And very welcome to btw..if he hasnt shown anything at 27 its just not there.
Surely if we get TPJ onboard we'll have a formidable pack that wont get rolled like Eels did to us?
After TPJ,our priority s/b a quality centre....or two.JTJ/Giddart/Talau are all maybes at best.

If Walters loses his coaching position at the Broncos because of a second wooden spoon, he may never coach his son at Nrl level
So I see this as a reason to getting his son over now
The remainder of this year may be his only chance
 
@iofthetigers said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391413) said:
If there is a concern about a player or two, I have not heard anything? But that should in no way reflect on the character of the club? In fact it’s the club’s duty to provide an opportunity for someone to participate in a team sport that will help strengthen their character.

The Tigers are an NRL club not a Betty Ford clinic, the Tigers are under no obligation to reform anyone, if someone is ill disciplined & takes short cuts off the field why would they be any different on it. For the club to be successful it needs to build & support what is coming up from the lower grades not what is here now or wooden spoon rejects.

IMO, to be successful, clubs need a real good player or two, with some mongrel in them, prepared to do what it takes (preferably legally) to get the team over the line.
 
@hugh1954 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391381) said:
@krammy said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391377) said:
@tigerpower said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391270) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391206) said:
@crucible said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1390964) said:
For what it's worth,I would ask which TPJ are we going after? Are we going after the TPJ of 18 months ago or the Adam Blair Version of now. Presumably he is not going to come cheap, so is it fair to ask why are we persuing someone with a dubious past, and not in form? Furthermore what happened to our no dickhead policy. Just asking.


I dont know....the 2021 version is going pretty good in a team getting lapped every week.

Averaging 3 tackle breaks a game. Averaging 3 offloads a game (best in teh NRL). Tackle efficiency in the 90's,

![tpj.png](/assets/uploads/files/1624015359603-tpj.png)

And there are some on here that don’t want him lol

We need players of his ability. I agree with an earlier poster who mentioned that it would be a punt, but life is a punt. We will not play finals footy without players of his ability. I would definitely take him on. If it goes awry, as Ned Kelly said when the hangman's noose went around his head.......that's life.

wasnt it "such is life"

Correct
 
I think Pangai is what we need. Can anyone tell me, can a contract have a stipulation that any off field incidents contrary to the NRLs rule of behaviour can result in the players contract to be terminated? If this is legal it should be in every contract .
 
Was listening to MMM and Brent Reed, reckons he will end up at the Tigers. Other clubs he mentioned were Storm and Roosters but have salary cap limitations, whereas the Tigers are ok.
 
Would love to sign him but would not be overly disappointed if we miss out on him as I think our second row is the least of our concerns…

We urgently need decent halves and would much prefer our money went towards that…
 
@milky said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391538) said:
Would love to sign him but would not be overly disappointed if we miss out on him as I think our second row is the least of our concerns…

We urgently need decent halves and would much prefer our money went towards that…

Hastings is coming
 
@twentyforty said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391297) said:
@spartan117 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391285) said:
This recruitment is about credibility as a destination club.


The sort of credibility you get with playing finals footy?

On that point say we'd come 8th instead of 9th the four or five times it happened, would we be cut some slack? Probably not.
 
@rustycage said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391395) said:
@hugh1954 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391381) said:
@krammy said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391377) said:
@tigerpower said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391270) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391206) said:
@crucible said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1390964) said:
For what it's worth,I would ask which TPJ are we going after? Are we going after the TPJ of 18 months ago or the Adam Blair Version of now. Presumably he is not going to come cheap, so is it fair to ask why are we persuing someone with a dubious past, and not in form? Furthermore what happened to our no dickhead policy. Just asking.


I dont know....the 2021 version is going pretty good in a team getting lapped every week.

Averaging 3 tackle breaks a game. Averaging 3 offloads a game (best in teh NRL). Tackle efficiency in the 90's,

![tpj.png](/assets/uploads/files/1624015359603-tpj.png)

And there are some on here that don’t want him lol

We need players of his ability. I agree with an earlier poster who mentioned that it would be a punt, but life is a punt. We will not play finals footy without players of his ability. I would definitely take him on. If it goes awry, as Ned Kelly said when the hangman's noose went around his head.......that's life.

wasnt it "such is life"

https://youtu.be/Lf6ao8cvyoU

If you like 'smoooth' @rustycage Frank Sinatra does a great version of this song.
 
Pangai is on 600k this year and 800k next year.
Broncos are willing to pay 350k next year and have already paid half this years salary. I’m told it will happen Broncos have leverage over Pangai stemming from last years incident.

If the Tigers can get Pangai on 450k a season he’s worth the risk and can be a game breaker.
Broncos have overpaid forwards Pangai, Lodge, Haas and bent their cap out of shape.

This move is wise whilst he is a loose cannon and gets suspended he’s very strong and rarely is not one of the best forwards on the field. I’m all seriousness he’s better than any forward we have.
 
@milky said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391538) said:
Would love to sign him but would not be overly disappointed if we miss out on him as I think our second row is the least of our concerns…

We urgently need decent halves and would much prefer our money went towards that…

Mate I think backrow is our weakest suit at present.
 
@tyga said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391558) said:
Pangai is on 600k this year and 800k next year.
Broncos are willing to pay 350k next year and have already paid half this years salary. I’m told it will happen Broncos have leverage over Pangai stemming from last years incident.

If the Tigers can get Pangai on 450k a season he’s worth the risk and can be a game breaker.
Broncos have overpaid forwards Pangai, Lodge, Haas and bent their cap out of shape.

This move is wise whilst he is a loose cannon and gets suspended he’s very strong and rarely is not one of the best forwards on the field. I’m all seriousness he’s better than any forward we have.

Told it will happen by a reliable source?

Would definitely be a huge plus for us.
 
@supercoach said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391559) said:
@milky said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391538) said:
Would love to sign him but would not be overly disappointed if we miss out on him as I think our second row is the least of our concerns…

We urgently need decent halves and would much prefer our money went towards that…

Mate I think backrow is our weakest suit at present.

Center is our weakest, lock & backrow next. I feel we are 3 key players short of being a decent side.
 
Don’t worry about Pengai’s discipline, the rules will change again very soon, as games are being decided by ridiculous send off & sin binnings. Pengai would be a good pick up. Go Weststigers!
 
TPJ to the Tigers abd under Mandge will.see him break into NSW Origin team.

Devastating on his day.
 
@mighty_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391569) said:
@supercoach said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391559) said:
@milky said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391538) said:
Would love to sign him but would not be overly disappointed if we miss out on him as I think our second row is the least of our concerns…

We urgently need decent halves and would much prefer our money went towards that…

Mate I think backrow is our weakest suit at present.

Center is our weakest, lock & backrow next. I feel we are 3 key players short of being a decent side.

We got Gildart coming next year, can’t say I don’t know any thing about him, but he is an international? The other one is Doueihi, they should do OK?

I didn’t think we needed another SR, but you can always use good players. Otherwise the pack is looking good anyway imo. The young blokes will only benefit from this season.

Good times ahead.
 
@mighty_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391569) said:
@supercoach said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391559) said:
@milky said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391538) said:
Would love to sign him but would not be overly disappointed if we miss out on him as I think our second row is the least of our concerns…

We urgently need decent halves and would much prefer our money went towards that…

Mate I think backrow is our weakest suit at present.

Center is our weakest, lock & backrow next. I feel we are 3 key players short of being a decent side.

Correct.
 
@elleryhanley said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391561) said:
@tyga said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391558) said:
Pangai is on 600k this year and 800k next year.
Broncos are willing to pay 350k next year and have already paid half this years salary. I’m told it will happen Broncos have leverage over Pangai stemming from last years incident.

If the Tigers can get Pangai on 450k a season he’s worth the risk and can be a game breaker.
Broncos have overpaid forwards Pangai, Lodge, Haas and bent their cap out of shape.

This move is wise whilst he is a loose cannon and gets suspended he’s very strong and rarely is not one of the best forwards on the field. I’m all seriousness he’s better than any forward we have.

Told it will happen by a reliable source?

Would definitely be a huge plus for us.

Yep. There will be more carnage for broncos club is more toxic than the tigers under Jason Taylor. Good young players also want out Hetherington, Farnworth, Beullemor and other senior players being told to leave.
 
@milky said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1391538) said:
Would love to sign him but would not be overly disappointed if we miss out on him as I think our second row is the least of our concerns…

We urgently need decent halves and would much prefer our money went towards that…

There's nothing worth buying in the halves, unless you consider Shaun Johnson a worthwhile investment. There are probably only 10 top quality halves in the league and they are all locked away. It's why Reynolds went for plenty and why the Dogs were prepared to throw plenty at Burton in the hope that he develops into a top quality half.
No point holding onto cash in the hope a top quality half suddenly becomes available because that will only happen if they have a major form slump.
 

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