The Ashes

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Maxwell was in form when he was dropped and is still in form presently.

In form in what type of cricket? He is a product of the short form of the game. This is quite different to test of your batting technique and temperament experienced in test cricket. Can you envisage Maxell being able to demonstrate the discipline shown by Smith at the Gabba or Marsh in Adelaide?

He did in Ranchi? He and Smith were the only ones to have done anything in that first innings, granted the Test was drawn but if he fell cheap in that first innings we would have been something like 190 runs poorer for it and almost would have certainly lost the Test.

I should have explained that the wickets in both Brisbane and Adelaide gave the bowlers assistance, both pace and spin. Funny how when we provide wickets which do a bit for bowlers, we get better crowds and more interest in test cricket?

I don't believe Maxwell has the temperament or technique to survive on these wickets. Ranchi would no doubt turn but not offer much for pace or swing bowlers. I don't believe he would have survived like Marsh did in Adelaide.

Very true Paws

When curators are setting up pitches you would hope they always set up with helping bowler friendly conditions rather than helping batsmen friendly conditions

Much more exciting cricket
 
That's why I hope they don't serve up another highway like they did against the Kiwis in Perth, that was absolute garbage that pitch.

The point I make on Maxi Paws is that he's maturing as a player in the longer form of the game. Even if it was only a Shield game, you don't score 200 odd if you don't have some patience about your innings.
 
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That's why I hope they don't serve up another highway like they did against the Kiwis in Perth, that was absolute garbage that pitch.

The point I make on Maxi Paws is that he's maturing as a player in the longer form of the game. Even if it was only a Shield game, you don't score 200 odd if you don't have some patience about your innings.

The more competitive it is for Aust Cricket selections the better. I do hope Handscombe regains his form.
 
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If you want an allrounder Jack Wildermuth could be worth a shot.

In 5 Shield matches, he has played 8 innings and scored 251 runs, 14 wickets at an average of 25.07

We dont want all rounders, they are con artists.
 
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yep. Mitch Marsh is simular to Watson/Maxwell . Can Bowl and can Bat but rarely get it together at Test level…

Watto Lotto threw the spanner in the works after his 15 6's v Mosman on the weekend

Big deal, he bullied a grade side.

Maxwell and Mitch Marsh have been tried and failed. Marsh jnr should be required to put in two years of solid state results before being reconsidered. All this talk of Marsh jnr to me appears to be nothing more than pandering to the parochial WA mafia. Handscombe should be given this series to perform.

100% correct!!!! Mitchell Marsh can bat a bit and bowl a bit but he does neither at test standard. I’ve seen him bowl an occasional good over but he is not a test no6’s shoelace!!
 
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If you want an allrounder Jack Wildermuth could be worth a shot.

In 5 Shield matches, he has played 8 innings and scored 251 runs, 14 wickets at an average of 25.07

We dont want all rounders, they are con artists.

Unless your name is Jacques Kallis or Garfield Sobers.
 
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If you want an allrounder Jack Wildermuth could be worth a shot.

In 5 Shield matches, he has played 8 innings and scored 251 runs, 14 wickets at an average of 25.07

We dont want all rounders, they are con artists.

Unless your name is Jacques Kallis or Garfield Sobers.

Today's "allrounder" is a con artist who is average at everything so they declare themselves to be something to help them fit in. Very few are successful because its a BS title.
 
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If you want an allrounder Jack Wildermuth could be worth a shot.

In 5 Shield matches, he has played 8 innings and scored 251 runs, 14 wickets at an average of 25.07

We dont want all rounders, they are con artists.

Unless your name is Jacques Kallis or Garfield Sobers.

Today's "allrounder" is a con artist who is average at everything so they declare themselves to be something to help them fit in. Very few are successful because its a BS title.

I'm agreeing, basically unless you're them you're not really an allrounder.

Even then Kallis was basically a bat who was a good first or second change bowler.

You'd want an allrounder to average over 35 with the bat and less than 35 with the ball.
 
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We dont want all rounders, they are con artists.

Unless your name is Jacques Kallis or Garfield Sobers.

Today's "allrounder" is a con artist who is average at everything so they declare themselves to be something to help them fit in. Very few are successful because its a BS title.

I'm agreeing, basically unless you're them you're not really an allrounder.

Even then Kallis was basically a bat who was a good first or second change bowler.

You'd want an allrounder to average over 35 with the bat and less than 35 with the ball.

Cummins is our best all rounder.
 
If we had six blokes we could routinely rely on to put on 350 runs per innngs we wouldn't need an allrounder.

Our bowlers have no dramas taking 20 wickets when they've got a total to defend.
 
Exactly. We need 6 specialist bats to combine for 300+ and the wickey+bowlers to chip in a further 100-150.
 
Yeah a wicketkeeper who can bat is always handy. Gilchrist really changed the role of a keeper.

I would still take a great gloveman who is an average bat rather than a great bat who is an average gloveman, keepers win you games from behind the stumps, not so much in front of them.
 
The Poms really hit the self destruct button on this tour. They've served it up on a platter for the Aussies. Aussie tour of SA should be a good series. The best two pace attacks in the world.
 
Looks like we brought back Warne and Mark Waugh for this Test

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/cricket/ashes-2017-18-series-embroiled-in-match-fixing-report/ar-BBGIgcI?ocid=ientp
 
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