The beginning of the end for the Titans??

[foreveratiger]

Please NO , this is a game that us Tigers fans mark on our Calender to go and watch

 

[happy_tiger]

They aren't going anywhere

6th most populated city in Australia

They need a WT's like shake up from the top to the bottom

 

[foreveratiger]

They aren't going anywhere

6th most populated city in Australia

They need a WT's like shake up from the top to the bottom

They will definitely not be kicked out as the NRL have an Obligation to have 16 Teams as they have an obligation with Foxtel and Channel 9 .

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

The only way sporting franchises will be successful in the Gold Coast is if the sporting body pours endless amounts of cash propping up the club.

The Coast does not have the commercial clout of a major capital city to sponsor/support a club.

Tell the Gold Coast Suns that… They are KILLING it up here.[/quote

Killing it??????
I don't have a great knowledge of the ins and outs of the Suns , but I have friends here that are Mad Suns supporters( as well as one whose Son plays for them , ) and they all say that despite the millions that have been thrown into the Code here , that they too are struggling .
The Hunt stunt was less than a raging success( although he did attract attention for a little while( for about as long as it took to get on the field in a fair dinkum game). Then the bubble burst.
The AFLHave thrown bucket loads of money and preferential treatment into the Suns with very little results. Don't be swayed by the numbers that they claim in the juniors. They are a joke.
They are the rubberiest figures I have ever seen.

Any one, (boy or girl ) , who has ever played even ONE game of Ozkick). ( you should have seen what autocorrect did to this sentence) ,think it's called, at school, is counted by the AFL as a registered junior. Anyone who goes to any of their "coaching clinics" also finds themselves as a registered Junior.
Their junior figures , on the Coast anyway , are as about as believable as The Mad Monks election promises.
There's hasn't been Any team of Any Code on the Coast, that could be called a genuine moderate success .
Soccer , Basketball, AFL, Union, have all tried to be consistently successful , with League having the longest run of them all, but even they, have always struggled to fill stadiums on a regular basis.
Maybe if the league gave a Coast team half as much support as the AFL has thrown into their struggling team, a Coast team would have had more success
I hope that with the better management they now have , and with better support from the NRL, there may eventually be a class team here to stay.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I think they should be located to an area that really appreciates our game, there have been too many teams in all forms of sport fail since most games went fully professional, Baseball, Basketball, Soccer even AFL, the Brisbane Bears were based at Cararra before they morphed into the Brisbane Lions with their merger with Fitzroy.
While there have been many Incantations of the Rugby League version on the Gold Coast this should be taken into perspective, the Original Giants version were thrown together at the last moment and failed to recruit well.
The Seagulls club saw something in the franchise and for 5 seasons made a 'sort' of success of it before the debt of the Leagues Club saw them reluctantly relinquish the franchise, with the looming Super League war the ARL circumvented private ownership by some loony named Jeff who wanted to re-name them the Gladiators.
When the ARL stepped in they re-located them to Cararra, re-named them the Chargers and formed a pool of ARL contracted players to form the basis of the Chargers, finally the Gold Coast gained a team worthy of a side and with players like Martin Bella, Wes Patten, Jamie Goddard etc they transformed into a popular and reasonably competitive side.
However at the completion of the Hostilities the Chargers were sacrificed for the peace of the game, along with the Adelaide Rams the Chargers were collaterrol damage and faded into the memory banks, all along they had around a million in the bank set aside for future re-instation and in the intervening 10 years one cash starved club were able to borrow some of that money to win a Premiership.
In hindsight perhaps the NRL didn't follow due diligence in awarding the new Gold Coast franchise to Michael Searle but the first couple of seasons were spectacular with the side having a new Stadium built for them and making the finals for 3 or so years.
So now we have the situation where a small minority of players being arrested on drug charges where the media can't wait to reveal their names while in AFLland their protected players have really have to stuff up big time before they are outed, who did Karmichael play for before being busted and when the offences occurred.
If the ALF franchise in the Suns had to pay their own way how long would they last on the coast, five years ago the 60 Minutes program featured Clive Palmer who had formed a A-League franchise that was going to be the benchmark in Australian sport, well we all know how well that turned out.
Realistically let the Titans move some where that 'wants' them and let the AFL continue to pour wasted money into the Coast, money that could be spent on supporting Grass Roots rather than propping up the contract of SOG!.

One of the best things the AFL is best of all at' is covering up any problems in its game , The Victorian Press is expert in not reporting things that would embarrass the Game.
Unlike the Piranahs of the Sydney Press.
The last debacle is one off the few times that some of the Melbourne papers have got into their game.

Their Three Strikes system is hard to believe.
It's the worst example of turning a blind eye in any sport.
I hope it's one thing that we will never bring into our game.
I don't care how many blokes get kicked out of any club , it's the only way to be fair to the players who are clean.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

The only way sporting franchises will be successful in the Gold Coast is if the sporting body pours endless amounts of cash propping up the club.

The Coast does not have the commercial clout of a major capital city to sponsor/support a club.

Tell the Gold Coast Suns that… They are KILLING it up here.[/quote

Killing it??????
I don't have a great knowledge of the ins and outs of the Suns , but I have friends here that are Mad Suns supporters( as well as one whose Son plays for them , ) and they all say that despite the millions that have been thrown into the Code here , that they too are struggling .
The Hunt stunt was less than a raging success( although he did attract attention for a little while( for about as long as it took to get on the field in a fair dinkum game). Then the bubble burst.
The AFLHave thrown bucket loads of money and preferential treatment into the Suns with very little results. Don't be swayed by the numbers that they claim in the juniors. They are a joke.
They are the rubberiest figures I have ever seen.

Any one, (boy or girl ) , who has ever played even ONE game of Ozkick). ( you should have seen what autocorrect did to this sentence) ,think it's called, at school, is counted by the AFL as a registered junior. Anyone who goes to any of their "coaching clinics" also finds themselves as a registered Junior.
Their junior figures , on the Coast anyway , are as about as believable as The Mad Monks election promises.
There's hasn't been Any team of Any Code on the Coast, that could be called a genuine moderate success .
Soccer , Basketball, AFL, Union, have all tried to be consistently successful , with League having the longest run of them all, but even they, have always struggled to fill stadiums on a regular basis.
Maybe if the league gave a Coast team half as much support as the AFL has thrown into their struggling team, a Coast team would have had more success
I hope that with the better management they now have , and with better support from the NRL, there may eventually be a class team here to stay.

But I also hope that we cream them in round 1
Charitable thoughts only go so far.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I think they should be located to an area that really appreciates our game, there have been too many teams in all forms of sport fail since most games went fully professional, Baseball, Basketball, Soccer even AFL, the Brisbane Bears were based at Cararra before they morphed into the Brisbane Lions with their merger with Fitzroy.
While there have been many Incantations of the Rugby League version on the Gold Coast this should be taken into perspective, the Original Giants version were thrown together at the last moment and failed to recruit well.
The Seagulls club saw something in the franchise and for 5 seasons made a 'sort' of success of it before the debt of the Leagues Club saw them reluctantly relinquish the franchise, with the looming Super League war the ARL circumvented private ownership by some loony named Jeff who wanted to re-name them the Gladiators.
When the ARL stepped in they re-located them to Cararra, re-named them the Chargers and formed a pool of ARL contracted players to form the basis of the Chargers, finally the Gold Coast gained a team worthy of a side and with players like Martin Bella, Wes Patten, Jamie Goddard etc they transformed into a popular and reasonably competitive side.
However at the completion of the Hostilities the Chargers were sacrificed for the peace of the game, along with the Adelaide Rams the Chargers were collaterrol damage and faded into the memory banks, all along they had around a million in the bank set aside for future re-instation and in the intervening 10 years one cash starved club were able to borrow some of that money to win a Premiership.
In hindsight perhaps the NRL didn't follow due diligence in awarding the new Gold Coast franchise to Michael Searle but the first couple of seasons were spectacular with the side having a new Stadium built for them and making the finals for 3 or so years.
So now we have the situation where a small minority of players being arrested on drug charges where the media can't wait to reveal their names while in AFLland their protected players have really have to stuff up big time before they are outed, who did Karmichael play for before being busted and when the offences occurred.
If the ALF franchise in the Suns had to pay their own way how long would they last on the coast, five years ago the 60 Minutes program featured Clive Palmer who had formed a A-League franchise that was going to be the benchmark in Australian sport, well we all know how well that turned out.
Realistically let the Titans move some where that 'wants' them and let the AFL continue to pour wasted money into the Coast, money that could be spent on supporting Grass Roots rather than propping up the contract of SOG!.

One of the best things the AFL is best of all at' is covering up any problems in its game , The Victorian Press is expert in not reporting things that would embarrass the Game.
Unlike the Piranahs of the Sydney Press.
The Essendon debacle is one off the few times that some of the Melbourne papers have got into their game.

Their Three Strikes system is hard to believe.
It's the worst example of turning a blind eye in any sport.
I hope it's one thing that we will never bring into our game.
I don't care how many blokes get kicked out of any club , it's the only way to be fair to the players who are clean.

 

[TurnStyle]

I think they should be located to an area that really appreciates our game, there have been too many teams in all forms of sport fail since most games went fully professional, Baseball, Basketball, Soccer even AFL, the Brisbane Bears were based at Cararra before they morphed into the Brisbane Lions with their merger with Fitzroy.
While there have been many Incantations of the Rugby League version on the Gold Coast this should be taken into perspective, the Original Giants version were thrown together at the last moment and failed to recruit well.
The Seagulls club saw something in the franchise and for 5 seasons made a 'sort' of success of it before the debt of the Leagues Club saw them reluctantly relinquish the franchise, with the looming Super League war the ARL circumvented private ownership by some loony named Jeff who wanted to re-name them the Gladiators.
When the ARL stepped in they re-located them to Cararra, re-named them the Chargers and formed a pool of ARL contracted players to form the basis of the Chargers, finally the Gold Coast gained a team worthy of a side and with players like Martin Bella, Wes Patten, Jamie Goddard etc they transformed into a popular and reasonably competitive side.
However at the completion of the Hostilities the Chargers were sacrificed for the peace of the game, along with the Adelaide Rams the Chargers were collaterrol damage and faded into the memory banks, all along they had around a million in the bank set aside for future re-instation and in the intervening 10 years one cash starved club were able to borrow some of that money to win a Premiership.
In hindsight perhaps the NRL didn't follow due diligence in awarding the new Gold Coast franchise to Michael Searle but the first couple of seasons were spectacular with the side having a new Stadium built for them and making the finals for 3 or so years.
So now we have the situation where a small minority of players being arrested on drug charges where the media can't wait to reveal their names while in AFLland their protected players have really have to stuff up big time before they are outed, who did Karmichael play for before being busted and when the offences occurred.
If the ALF franchise in the Suns had to pay their own way how long would they last on the coast, five years ago the 60 Minutes program featured Clive Palmer who had formed a A-League franchise that was going to be the benchmark in Australian sport, well we all know how well that turned out.
Realistically let the Titans move some where that 'wants' them and let the AFL continue to pour wasted money into the Coast, money that could be spent on supporting Grass Roots rather than propping up the contract of SOG!.

One of the best things the AFL is best of all at' is covering up any problems in its game , The Victorian Press is expert in not reporting things that would embarrass the Game.
Unlike the Piranahs of the Sydney Press.
The last debacle is one off the few times that some of the Melbourne papers have got into their game.

Their Three Strikes system is hard to believe.
It's the worst example of turning a blind eye in any sport.
I hope it's one thing that we will never bring into our game.
I don't care how many blokes get kicked out of any club , it's the only way to be fair to the players who are clean.

the AFL allowed the likes of GCS and WS Giants extreme monopolies on selections for at least 2 (? paraphrasing…) drafts wherein they had their pick of the nations best young players. so for a couple of seasons they would struggle, but as they developed they would be stacked...in theory. unfortunately for the giants these same kids are not sticking around for the long haul and so that plan seems a bit flawed now.
they also allowed the swans the cost of living allowance, which they used to get the likes of franklin and tippett and now everyone else is jumping up and down about it.

what sort of aid could the nrl give the titans?

as for the AFLs three strikes policy, i wholeheartedly agree it is the most ridiculous exhibition of protecting ones own species ever: if anyone in society gets done for doing drugs do they get 2 chances before losing their anonymity and being charged with a criminal offence?!

 

[thaitiger]

These are the facts not my opinion:
# The Gold Coast Region might be the 6th largest population in Australia but they have "failed" to support any sport well enough to justify any sports team locating there. :dead
# The whole place is a joke and the people there do not deserve a team in the NRL!! :crazy
# I hope the NRL end this embarrassing joke of a team and move the franchise to say Rockhampton/Perth/Gosford/Nowra/Broken Hill anywhere but the Gold Coast!!!!!!!Please!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll

 

[happy_tiger]

Now its just gets ridiculous

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8960533

 

[hobbo]

Now its just gets ridiculous

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8960533

I think that this cocaine drama has all been blown out of proportion by the media , just like the darkest day in sport with the ASADA crap .
Yes the players most likely took coke and shared it around ? ( hence the trafficking ).
I seriously doubt IMO that they're permanent part time coke dealers ??
Yes , they should be punished IMO , but if Greg bird and his dumb associates fight these charges ?They're now saying this could drag out in the courts for maybe 2 years .. WTF ?
I'm more pissed off what all this crap is doing to the game we all love …

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[tig_prmz]

im not sure about that either. suspending them defeats the whole purpose of "innocent until proven guilty". and as bad as it looks, if they are indeed innocent, what then?

i understand however, that they brought the "game into disrepute"… idk. terrible situation altogether. they have no one to blame but themselves for being in this situation.

i believe though that the club should support them until this thing ends.

 

[Goose]

There is a different to being not guilty of a crime (or presumed innocence) and breaching the terms of an employment contract which has the lower burden of proof of balance of probabilities (and no presumption of innocence)
If the Titans have sufficient evidence to terminate their contract, they will be able to do so, whether or not they have committed a crime. I suspect they have the evidence to do this if they so choose.

Interestingly on the BSB this morning I heard it mentioned that their is talk of the Titans handing their licence back to the league.

 

[happy_tiger]

NRL planning an emergency visit to the Gold Coast

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8960557

 

[Goose]

RLW are reporting that the NRL will take over the running of the Titans.

Press conference at 1.30pm (Queensland time)

http://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/nrl-takes-control-gold-coast-titans/

This is all happening very quickly.

 

[TurnStyle]

I think that this cocaine drama has all been blown out of proportion by the media , just like the darkest day in sport with the ASADA crap .
Yes the players most likely took coke and shared it around ? ( hence the trafficking ).
I seriously doubt IMO that they're permanent part time coke dealers ??
Yes , they should be punished IMO , but if Greg bird and his dumb associates fight these charges ?They're now saying this could drag out in the courts for maybe 2 years .. WTF ?
I'm more pissed off what all this crap is doing to the game we all love …

of course its been exaggerated - hyperbole is the lifeblood of the media.
what i find astounding is that these sort of guys - ie, with a high public profile - risk doing this sort of thing?!

 

[Tigermama]

Seems like they will all plead not guilty. What a surprise….. Wish one of them had the guts and courage to admit they used the substance once or twice, at a party etc. and cop it on the chin.
Thats not going to happen now is it.

 

[Geo]

Seems like they will all plead not guilty. What a surprise….. Wish one of them had the guts and courage to admit they used the substance once or twice, at a party etc. and cop it on the chin.
Thats not going to happen now is it.

They are pleading not guilty to supply….which is different to personal use and would come with much more serious penalty i'd imagine....

 

[happy_tiger]

If the presso at 1.30 is as expected does everyone agree that the Titans should be saved by the NRL ??

Would a club that was partially controlled by the NRL get advantages that other clubs wouldn't ??

 

[tig_prmz]

smh had an article earlier that NRL is in control of the titans now