The Tim Moltzen thread

[Year_of_the_Tiger]

From another lawyer ,there is little point in going toe to toe with ST (who is another lawyer - sorry ST but im sure you disclosed it elsewhere), so little point in going toe to toe …. But the elements of negligence is an extremely boring topic IMO. Moltz is gone and the idea of anyone claiming negligence in this instance is near zero.

 

[gallagher]

Lighten up Perry
So many experts on here.
Christ

No mirrors in your joint?

 

[innsaneink]

Stuff the legal aspect, you clowns cant help yourself…lets look at this from a football perspective. Call it whatever you like, mismanagement, an error in judgement - anything...several here are claiming an injured player has played on and suffered worse damage, its not the first time its happened here- Hodgo comes to mind a few years back. Richards too I think.
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Gallagher, dont just have a go and disappear, back it up chump with something

 

[tomcat]

id like to know how many times moltzen did play with an injury , he always looked timid to me , specially at fullback.

 

[southerntiger]

Stuff the legal aspect, you clowns cant help yourself…lets look at this from a football perspective. Call it whatever you like, mismanagement, an error in judgement - anything...several here are claiming an injured player has played on and suffered worse damage, its not the first time its happened here- Hodgo comes to mind a few years back. Richards too I think.
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Gallagher, dont just have a go and disappear, back it up chump with something

Ink you brought up the legal issues by making an implication of medical negligence. Myself and TimmyB merely responding by asking you to elaborate on your implication by indicating your grounds for thinking so. You had nothing.

Once again you immediately, without solid (I should say any) information, want to think the worst of this club. Enjoy your misery and negativity.

 

[southerntiger]

id like to know how many times moltzen did play with an injury , he always looked timid to me , specially at fullback.

Interesting question. Few players dont play injured these days unfortunately. Its a tough sport.

 

[innsaneink]

Stuff the legal aspect, you clowns cant help yourself…lets look at this from a football perspective. Call it whatever you like, mismanagement, an error in judgement - anything...several here are claiming an injured player has played on and suffered worse damage, its not the first time its happened here- Hodgo comes to mind a few years back. Richards too I think.
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Gallagher, dont just have a go and disappear, back it up chump with something

Ink you brought up the legal issues by making an implication of medical negligence. Myself and TimmyB merely responding by asking you to elaborate on your implication by indicating your grounds for thinking so. You had nothing.

Once again you immediately, without solid (I should say any) information, want to think the worst of this club. Enjoy your misery and negativity.

Theres info in this thread from several people, stick your head back in the sand, fanboi…of course, because its of a negative nature it MUST be incorrect

 

[T-REXX]

id like to know how many times moltzen did play with an injury , he always looked timid to me , specially at fullback.

describe INJURY… all players play with an injury but depends on how bad... and i can tell u the injury he had was nothing major... not enough to warranty pulling him.

this injury was just a freak accident.. nothing more, nothing less..

and wouldnt u be a bit timid if u had what happened to Moltz arm last year. or Benjis Shoulders.. he was timid for nearly 2 years... doesnt make them injured in the NOW

 

[southerntiger]

If its on an internet forum it must be reliable :wink: Even if the info is true, which I have not once disputed, you still havent elaborated as to how it would constitute negligence. Good luck with that one.

Theres nothing wrong with negativity. But negativity for negavity's sake, thats a different story.

 

[innsaneink]

It may well be true…just because its the net, dont discount it....but we all know forums are full of liars, throwing out all sorts of accusations - dont we ST?

 

[southerntiger]

Yeh we do. Some do it in public as well, dont they Ink?

Once again I am not concerned with the truth or not of the original info. My issue is your jump that it implies neligence. I have asked you to elaborate as to how it constitutes negligence. You havent even indicated who the negligent party would be. Was it Benji?

 

[innsaneink]

I would be very very disappointed if they knew this end result injury was a possiblity, if he was injured like its been stated, and theyre linked…then thats very amateur hour. Its happened before iirc.
However if its all just bad luck, a fluke, freak occurence then thats footy.
Can you lie straight in bed ST?

 

[Chris]

The negligent party would be the medical staff and Tim Sheens for playing him knowing that he's injured. In saying that, how do you prove he was injured if all concerned play the silent game.

 

[southerntiger]

Thats a fair opinion. Thats a big difference from alleging medical negligence.

I lie quite comfortably in bed. Oh are you asserting I am a liar Ink? I think there is some forum rules about making such statements. But I am not a precious skirt who reacts to the smallest slights so I will let it slide this time. :wink:

 

[Chris]

If someone is prepared to allege negligence then they better have some damning proof because that is a serious accusation that could cost people their jobs.

 

[southerntiger]

The negligent party would be the medical staff and Tim Sheens for playing him knowing that he's injured. In saying that, how do you prove he was injured if all concerned play the silent game.

But Chris what is the negligence? That is the crux of the issue. Simply because the injury was conected to a preexisting injury, it is true, doesnt lead to a conclusion that someone has breached their duty of care to Tim. We dont know what goes on inside the club. Perhaps Tim was warned that this was a risk, took the advice on board but decided to play on to make the number 7 position is own. That sounds more plausible than the club pressured him to play or a doctor didnt advise him of a risk of further injury.

There are many scenarious that could be posited which dont lead to a conclusion of negligence.

 

[innsaneink]

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As i said before, I was aware med neg was a legal term, chill out people.
You lawyers jump on things like seagulls on a chip…. :deadhorse:

But I guess, on the other hand....There are many scenarious that could be posited which do lead to a conclusion of negligence.
Who knows?
Food for thought.

 

[innsaneink]

Anyway Ive thrown it out there, discussed it…or tried to, I'm done...I'll let you have your much sought after last word ST!
Happy?

 

[southerntiger]

Anyway Ive thrown it out there, discussed it…or tried to, I'm done...I'll let you have your much sought after last word ST!
Happy?

You didnt try and discuss it. I asked you to explain your reasoning and you got shirty. If you were genuine about discussing it, why were you so sensititve to my question. Rather, you wanted to make a smart asre comment to bait me and you got your bum smacked. Get over it.

 

[system]

Look it is possible he was sent out there with a knee strain.

It is not uncommon practice in any NRL team and the majority will never have the damage that Moltz had happen to him.

I do not know or have the slightest inkling if he was already injured going into the clash with the Cows though