The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears

@Tiger_Steve said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1200980) said:
I’m a Madge advocate but could this possibly be a sign that some are not able to cope with the level of intensity he brings to training/preparation. Are they having any fun?
If this is the case is the coach too tough or the players too soft?
Or this may not even be the issue - I’m just throwing out a possible scenario.


I doubt it. AD has played under him before. He’d have known what he was in for when he signed.
 
The one thing that stood out to me was who the real leader and captain of this side should be. Packer on 2 occasions walked with Doueihi, consoling him with his arm around his shoulder. Good work Russell.
 
@Tiger-Tragic said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201058) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1200980) said:
I’m a Madge advocate but could this possibly be a sign that some are not able to cope with the level of intensity he brings to training/preparation. Are they having any fun?
If this is the case is the coach too tough or the players too soft?
Or this may not even be the issue - I’m just throwing out a possible scenario.

And, we'll (probably) never know. I raised the same point in another topic on here. By compariosn, I think it's fair to say that a majority of their players "love" Bellamy, "love" Robbo, "love" Bennett, "love" Ricky, maybe even Hasler.

i don't see that same type of affection for Maguire from our boys or, in fact, from players in any other teams.

Perhaps the level of success/consistency of those other clubs can be explained by the genuine respect, affection and trust they have in the way they are led, coached, managed and supported by their coach?

The coaches you mentioned are all tough but are also known to be very good man managers that players want to play for. I see the toughness part with Maguire but I don’t see the other part.
 
Imo if you play anywhere from 1 to 7 you need to be quick.

I don't know what his position is.
He's not a 1, he's not a winger, he could be a 6 but he'd be an average one, centre is probably his go because centres don't really have much of a role anymore, they used to be attacking weapons but now it seems you're a good centre if you're a good defender.

Seems like a really nice kid but being brutally honest he's an average footballer
 
@diedpretty said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201059) said:
The one thing that stood out to me was who the real leader and captain of this side should be. Packer on 2 occasions walked with Doueihi, consoling him with his arm around his shoulder. Good work Russell.

Good point
 
One thing AD could really add to the team is keep working on goal kicking. He can kick and we are crying out for a consistent kicker above 65%. I think it's tailor made for him. If we start going up in sixes instead of fours we will have much more chance of being successful.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201073) said:
Doueihi coming over was largely because he wanted to be under Madge again let’s not forget

Madge did seem to be looking after him at halftime, I agree I don't think it had anything to do with Madge. I like seeing a bit of emotion, I like players showing they care.
 
@cochise said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201117) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201073) said:
Doueihi coming over was largely because he wanted to be under Madge again let’s not forget

Madge did seem to be looking after him at halftime, I agree I don't think it had anything to do with Madge. I like seeing a bit of emotion, I like players showing they care.

Yeah even Ennis I think commented on it, that Adam was in deep discussions with Madge at halftime.

Hopefully the rest of the team saw how much he cares and it’s a kick up the ass for them. It’s good knowing he wants this club to succeed and isn’t here for the money like a lot of tigers signings end up going.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201120) said:
@cochise said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201117) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201073) said:
Doueihi coming over was largely because he wanted to be under Madge again let’s not forget

Madge did seem to be looking after him at halftime, I agree I don't think it had anything to do with Madge. I like seeing a bit of emotion, I like players showing they care.

Yeah even Ennis I think commented on it, that Adam was in deep discussions with Madge at halftime.

Hopefully the rest of the team saw how much he cares and it’s a kick up the ass for them. It’s good knowing he wants this club to succeed and isn’t here for the money like a lot of tigers signings end up going.

Lifted my respect for him, I have been a little critical of him but genuinely think he is a good footballer, just playing out of position.
 
@cochise said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201124) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201120) said:
@cochise said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201117) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201073) said:
Doueihi coming over was largely because he wanted to be under Madge again let’s not forget

Madge did seem to be looking after him at halftime, I agree I don't think it had anything to do with Madge. I like seeing a bit of emotion, I like players showing they care.

Yeah even Ennis I think commented on it, that Adam was in deep discussions with Madge at halftime.

Hopefully the rest of the team saw how much he cares and it’s a kick up the ass for them. It’s good knowing he wants this club to succeed and isn’t here for the money like a lot of tigers signings end up going.

Lifted my respect for him, I have been a little critical of him but genuinely think he is a good footballer, just playing out of position.

If we can sign a good fullback I would be happy to move Adam to centre. Maybe 5/8, he has good long passing and his kicking is okay but not seen his short passing really. He did play there in the juniors, for now he’s the best fullback we have and has had good games there for us.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201126) said:
@cochise said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201124) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201120) said:
@cochise said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201117) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201073) said:
Doueihi coming over was largely because he wanted to be under Madge again let’s not forget

Madge did seem to be looking after him at halftime, I agree I don't think it had anything to do with Madge. I like seeing a bit of emotion, I like players showing they care.

Yeah even Ennis I think commented on it, that Adam was in deep discussions with Madge at halftime.

Hopefully the rest of the team saw how much he cares and it’s a kick up the ass for them. It’s good knowing he wants this club to succeed and isn’t here for the money like a lot of tigers signings end up going.

Lifted my respect for him, I have been a little critical of him but genuinely think he is a good footballer, just playing out of position.

If we can sign a good fullback I would be happy to move Adam to centre. Maybe 5/8, he has good long passing and his kicking is okay but not seen his short passing really. He did play there in the juniors, for now he’s the best fullback we have and has had good games there for us.

I think his passing is a little too inconsistent for 5/8th, he also seems to lack a spiral pass to move the ball quickly. I think he would be a very good centre.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201000) said:
22 year old who’s barely played here cares more about winning and losing than majority of our players. I’m sure covid and the Lebanon tragedy added to his tears but for me it’s good to know he cares. Wish everyone else cared that much

Visible tears doesn't equate to caring more
 
@weststigers said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1200968) said:
The emotional footage of teammates consoling distraught Wests Tigers fullback Adam Doueihi shocked many - here’s the sad reason behind the star’s tears.

His tears were as much for his club as they were for his country.

While most rightly assumed a distressed Wests Tigers fullback Adam Doueihi’s post-game tears on Saturday night were due to last week’s tragic explosion in Beirut, he was also lamenting his own modest form and his side’s horrible performance against Newcastle.

Doueihi has Lebanese heritage — and has represented Lebanon in rugby league — but has no immediate family living in the country.

Having been handed the Wests Tigers’ fullback spot at the start of this season, Doueihi remains frustrated at his own form and that of his underachieving side, which has lost three successive matches.

And the emotion poured out after his team’s 44-4 loss to the Knights — television cameras capturing the vision of Doueihi in tears. Insiders claim Doueihi was “flat” at halftime and “upset” at fulltime.

“It bubbled over and came out, it was sad to see,” the source said. “He is disappointed and frustrated because Wests Tigers are better than how they’re performing. He has so much passion. And he only turned 22 years old last week, he’s still very young.”

Teammates, primarily Russell Packer, comforted Doueihi — who had the word Lebanon on his wrist tape — at fulltime.

“Adam is pretty passionate. He’s been a junior at Wests Tigers and he wants this club up where we all want it,” Tigers coach Michael Maguire said. “He showed a bit of passion around what the game means to him, and I can assure you that every player in that change room feels the same.”

Former premiership-winning hooker Michael Ennis said Doueihi was gutted at full time.

“Adam Doueihi is absolutely distraught,” Ennis said on Fox League.

“They’re concerning scenes. At halftime we got some shots, we couldn’t see his face but he was in deep discussions with Michael Maguire.

“We know he’s of Lebanese heritage and it’s been a really tough week with what’s gone on in Lebanon and it could possibly be that.”

Former Test and Queensland superstar Cooper Cronk also spoke passionately about Doueihi.

“It’s hard to talk over because you don’t know the pain and suffering that the young man is going through at the moment,” Cronk said.

“Our hearts are with him and we hope there are good times ahead for Doueihi, his family and the Lebanese community.”

This is something we all constantly overlook...how do all these losses affect the team...I imagine you would start to doubt yourself and your team mates, are we all putting in total effort and others not...:anguished:

Most of them would be feeling pretty horrible now, they need to have a bit of confidence in themselves and win the next match for their own sakes:face_with_rolling_eyes:
 
The real problem is that we need a genuine captain who inspire our players when the going gets tough. He has to be someone that earns his players respect. Moses as captain is a total sham.
 
@hobbo1 said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1200984) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1200980) said:
I’m a Madge advocate but could this possibly be a sign that some are not able to cope with the level of intensity he brings to training/preparation. Are they having any fun?
If this is the case is the coach too tough or the players too soft?
Or this may not even be the issue - I’m just throwing out a possible scenario.

Maybe the team needs to get on the cans and have a laugh .
There’s no point if you don’t enjoy your job !

No... it's a playstation royal rumble for this generation..
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201010) said:
@Lauren said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201008) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [The Tragic Reason Behind Tiger's Stars Tears](/post/1201000) said:
22 year old who’s barely played here cares more about winning and losing than majority of our players. I’m sure covid and the Lebanon tragedy added to his tears but for me it’s good to know he cares. Wish everyone else cared that much

Well said Josh.

This is not a joke but I just read the article shared on the WTF (quoting Lee Hagipantelis) and am now genuinely concerned for the mental welfare of our players - and what precautionary measures the club takes - as I honestly don't want them to be carrying the weight of any heavy burden. And especially due to any past failures of this club.
We've invested in some youth and they truly don't deserve that.
Like some have suggested t, despite the competitive nature there still needs to be some enjoyment taken out of the game, for the players.

They’re a lot happier if they’re winning. Hard to enjoy a 44-4 loss. Doueihi always seems very hard on himself even when we win, just one of those guys which isn’t a bad thing as long as our other players support him. Was good to see Packer first there trying to look after him

Some our senior players don't look like they give a rats or they are very good at masking their emotions. We need more soul in our team and ADs emotions after that loss is what will make him a great leader of our club.
 

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