The worrying part for me

@hobbo1 Reynolds is hopeless and costing us a fortune. Hooker is probably the position we need to fill above any others.
 
@hobbo1 said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060664) said:
@Tigerboy said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060654) said:
@TigersBusDriver said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060652) said:
We do develop players from our junior levels. A whole heap of them, too. It's just that they all end up leaving and finding more success at other clubs.


So, the question must be asked... why is that consistently our issue?? It can’t be money, it can’t always be resources or coaching class because we’ve able to sign marquee’s too; they just never seem to perform for years on end - except old mate Gareth !


Even bigger question is why can’t we attract a top marquee player ?
I’d say it’s because we’re a proven basket case of a club ..
And please no one say “ Ryan Matterson” says hi !

I’m talking the likes of Lattrel Mitchel or a player like Inglis when he joined Souths ..
Souths were a rabble before Inglis joined them .
We need to get the house in order and get the ball rolling ..
Pretty much our entire squad is made up of the same caliber of players ..
Plodders and nuffies .

Its the stigma of just playing for the Tigers which plays a huge role. I reckon its 90% of the reason its hard to sign quality. I currently live in Newcastle, about 3-4 months ago I was having an informal lunch with an old client on my day off [many beers] at Wests League club in Mayfield when the Knights showed up for their lunch after training at the local ground. I had my Tigers Jersey on which has a few signatures on it so naturally it started some friendly conversation about some of the Tiger players on it, i told them I knew a couple of the blokes at the Tigers that they also knew and it lead to some banter with a few of the lads that sat at the table next to me. Pearce, Ponga, Guerra and Coach Brown. I asked the 3 players why they wouldnt play for the Tigers and why they chose to go to Newcastle. Pearce said laughing, cause of his Dad but all of them said Tigers have no chance to play in the finals, not in their playing lifetime, which made me laugh as they were playing for Newcastle but thats how bad it is! Players would rather play for other garbage teams then us! The facilitates are apparently lacking a great deal compared to many other clubs and the lifestyle/area isnt so attractive compared to say living in a Penthouse in a 1 team town on Newcastle beach with a plethora of attractive bikini clad young girls hanging around your doorstep 8-9 sunny months of the year.

1. Stigma of being a losing team ie, Crap roster
2. Facilities
3. Lifestyle

They need a complete broom through the place which I believe is happening at the end of 2020 and then they need to sign 10-15 players to change the culture.
 
@fair-dinkum said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060759) said:
@hobbo1 said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060664) said:
@Tigerboy said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060654) said:
@TigersBusDriver said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060652) said:
We do develop players from our junior levels. A whole heap of them, too. It's just that they all end up leaving and finding more success at other clubs.


So, the question must be asked... why is that consistently our issue?? It can’t be money, it can’t always be resources or coaching class because we’ve able to sign marquee’s too; they just never seem to perform for years on end - except old mate Gareth !


Even bigger question is why can’t we attract a top marquee player ?
I’d say it’s because we’re a proven basket case of a club ..
And please no one say “ Ryan Matterson” says hi !

I’m talking the likes of Lattrel Mitchel or a player like Inglis when he joined Souths ..
Souths were a rabble before Inglis joined them .
We need to get the house in order and get the ball rolling ..
Pretty much our entire squad is made up of the same caliber of players ..
Plodders and nuffies .

Its the stigma of just playing for the Tigers which plays a huge role. I reckon its 90% of the reason its hard to sign quality. I currently live in Newcastle, about 3-4 months ago I was having an informal lunch with an old client on my day off [many beers] at Wests League club in Mayfield when the Knights showed up for their lunch after training at the local ground. I had my Tigers Jersey on which has a few signatures on it so naturally it started some friendly conversation about some of the Tiger players on it, i told them I knew a couple of the blokes at the Tigers that they also knew and it lead to some banter with a few of the lads that sat at the table next to me. Pearce, Ponga, Guerra and Coach Brown. I asked the 3 players why they wouldnt play for the Tigers and why they chose to go to Newcastle. Pearce said laughing, cause of his Dad but all of them said Tigers have no chance to play in the finals, not in their playing lifetime, which made me laugh as they were playing for Newcastle but thats how bad it is! Players would rather play for other garbage teams then us! The facilitates are apparently lacking a great deal compared to many other clubs and the lifestyle/area isnt so attractive compared to say living in a Penthouse in a 1 team town on Newcastle beach with a plethora of attractive bikini clad young girls hanging around your doorstep 8-9 sunny months of the year.

1. Stigma of being a losing team ie, Crap roster
2. Facilities
3. Lifestyle

They need a complete broom through the place which I believe is happening at the end of 2020 and then they need to sign 10-15 players to change the culture.


100% agree ...
Not just top line marquee players even ...

Above average players won’t come ..,

Ferguson ...eels ( a while ago I know )
Korisau ...Panthers
DWZ ...dogs

Even Maloney would rather go overseas lol

Players like the above would improve our crap roster big time
 
@hobbo1 said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060771) said:
@fair-dinkum said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060759) said:
@hobbo1 said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060664) said:
@Tigerboy said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060654) said:
@TigersBusDriver said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060652) said:
We do develop players from our junior levels. A whole heap of them, too. It's just that they all end up leaving and finding more success at other clubs.


So, the question must be asked... why is that consistently our issue?? It can’t be money, it can’t always be resources or coaching class because we’ve able to sign marquee’s too; they just never seem to perform for years on end - except old mate Gareth !


Even bigger question is why can’t we attract a top marquee player ?
I’d say it’s because we’re a proven basket case of a club ..
And please no one say “ Ryan Matterson” says hi !

I’m talking the likes of Lattrel Mitchel or a player like Inglis when he joined Souths ..
Souths were a rabble before Inglis joined them .
We need to get the house in order and get the ball rolling ..
Pretty much our entire squad is made up of the same caliber of players ..
Plodders and nuffies .

Its the stigma of just playing for the Tigers which plays a huge role. I reckon its 90% of the reason its hard to sign quality. I currently live in Newcastle, about 3-4 months ago I was having an informal lunch with an old client on my day off [many beers] at Wests League club in Mayfield when the Knights showed up for their lunch after training at the local ground. I had my Tigers Jersey on which has a few signatures on it so naturally it started some friendly conversation about some of the Tiger players on it, i told them I knew a couple of the blokes at the Tigers that they also knew and it lead to some banter with a few of the lads that sat at the table next to me. Pearce, Ponga, Guerra and Coach Brown. I asked the 3 players why they wouldnt play for the Tigers and why they chose to go to Newcastle. Pearce said laughing, cause of his Dad but all of them said Tigers have no chance to play in the finals, not in their playing lifetime, which made me laugh as they were playing for Newcastle but thats how bad it is! Players would rather play for other garbage teams then us! The facilitates are apparently lacking a great deal compared to many other clubs and the lifestyle/area isnt so attractive compared to say living in a Penthouse in a 1 team town on Newcastle beach with a plethora of attractive bikini clad young girls hanging around your doorstep 8-9 sunny months of the year.

1. Stigma of being a losing team ie, Crap roster
2. Facilities
3. Lifestyle

They need a complete broom through the place which I believe is happening at the end of 2020 and then they need to sign 10-15 players to change the culture.


100% agree ...
Not just top line marquee players even ...

Above average players won’t come ..,

Ferguson ...eels ( a while ago I know )
Korisau ...Panthers
DWZ ...dogs

Even Maloney would rather go overseas lol

Players like the above would improve our crap roster big time

prehaps we should start looking more overseas then?
 
@TheDaBoss said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060773) said:
@hobbo1 said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060771) said:
@fair-dinkum said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060759) said:
@hobbo1 said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060664) said:
@Tigerboy said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060654) said:
@TigersBusDriver said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060652) said:
We do develop players from our junior levels. A whole heap of them, too. It's just that they all end up leaving and finding more success at other clubs.


So, the question must be asked... why is that consistently our issue?? It can’t be money, it can’t always be resources or coaching class because we’ve able to sign marquee’s too; they just never seem to perform for years on end - except old mate Gareth !


Even bigger question is why can’t we attract a top marquee player ?
I’d say it’s because we’re a proven basket case of a club ..
And please no one say “ Ryan Matterson” says hi !

I’m talking the likes of Lattrel Mitchel or a player like Inglis when he joined Souths ..
Souths were a rabble before Inglis joined them .
We need to get the house in order and get the ball rolling ..
Pretty much our entire squad is made up of the same caliber of players ..
Plodders and nuffies .

Its the stigma of just playing for the Tigers which plays a huge role. I reckon its 90% of the reason its hard to sign quality. I currently live in Newcastle, about 3-4 months ago I was having an informal lunch with an old client on my day off [many beers] at Wests League club in Mayfield when the Knights showed up for their lunch after training at the local ground. I had my Tigers Jersey on which has a few signatures on it so naturally it started some friendly conversation about some of the Tiger players on it, i told them I knew a couple of the blokes at the Tigers that they also knew and it lead to some banter with a few of the lads that sat at the table next to me. Pearce, Ponga, Guerra and Coach Brown. I asked the 3 players why they wouldnt play for the Tigers and why they chose to go to Newcastle. Pearce said laughing, cause of his Dad but all of them said Tigers have no chance to play in the finals, not in their playing lifetime, which made me laugh as they were playing for Newcastle but thats how bad it is! Players would rather play for other garbage teams then us! The facilitates are apparently lacking a great deal compared to many other clubs and the lifestyle/area isnt so attractive compared to say living in a Penthouse in a 1 team town on Newcastle beach with a plethora of attractive bikini clad young girls hanging around your doorstep 8-9 sunny months of the year.

1. Stigma of being a losing team ie, Crap roster
2. Facilities
3. Lifestyle

They need a complete broom through the place which I believe is happening at the end of 2020 and then they need to sign 10-15 players to change the culture.


100% agree ...
Not just top line marquee players even ...

Above average players won’t come ..,

Ferguson ...eels ( a while ago I know )
Korisau ...Panthers
DWZ ...dogs

Even Maloney would rather go overseas lol

Players like the above would improve our crap roster big time

prehaps we should start looking more overseas then?

They are
 
@TheDaBoss said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060773) said:
@hobbo1 said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060771) said:
@fair-dinkum said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060759) said:
@hobbo1 said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060664) said:
@Tigerboy said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060654) said:
@TigersBusDriver said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060652) said:
We do develop players from our junior levels. A whole heap of them, too. It's just that they all end up leaving and finding more success at other clubs.


So, the question must be asked... why is that consistently our issue?? It can’t be money, it can’t always be resources or coaching class because we’ve able to sign marquee’s too; they just never seem to perform for years on end - except old mate Gareth !


Even bigger question is why can’t we attract a top marquee player ?
I’d say it’s because we’re a proven basket case of a club ..
And please no one say “ Ryan Matterson” says hi !

I’m talking the likes of Lattrel Mitchel or a player like Inglis when he joined Souths ..
Souths were a rabble before Inglis joined them .
We need to get the house in order and get the ball rolling ..
Pretty much our entire squad is made up of the same caliber of players ..
Plodders and nuffies .

Its the stigma of just playing for the Tigers which plays a huge role. I reckon its 90% of the reason its hard to sign quality. I currently live in Newcastle, about 3-4 months ago I was having an informal lunch with an old client on my day off [many beers] at Wests League club in Mayfield when the Knights showed up for their lunch after training at the local ground. I had my Tigers Jersey on which has a few signatures on it so naturally it started some friendly conversation about some of the Tiger players on it, i told them I knew a couple of the blokes at the Tigers that they also knew and it lead to some banter with a few of the lads that sat at the table next to me. Pearce, Ponga, Guerra and Coach Brown. I asked the 3 players why they wouldnt play for the Tigers and why they chose to go to Newcastle. Pearce said laughing, cause of his Dad but all of them said Tigers have no chance to play in the finals, not in their playing lifetime, which made me laugh as they were playing for Newcastle but thats how bad it is! Players would rather play for other garbage teams then us! The facilitates are apparently lacking a great deal compared to many other clubs and the lifestyle/area isnt so attractive compared to say living in a Penthouse in a 1 team town on Newcastle beach with a plethora of attractive bikini clad young girls hanging around your doorstep 8-9 sunny months of the year.

1. Stigma of being a losing team ie, Crap roster
2. Facilities
3. Lifestyle

They need a complete broom through the place which I believe is happening at the end of 2020 and then they need to sign 10-15 players to change the culture.


100% agree ...
Not just top line marquee players even ...

Above average players won’t come ..,

Ferguson ...eels ( a while ago I know )
Korisau ...Panthers
DWZ ...dogs

Even Maloney would rather go overseas lol

Players like the above would improve our crap roster big time

prehaps we should start looking more overseas then?

Don’t look in Bali !
That’ll be full of plodders soon !

Wonder if Koroibete wants back ?
 
@hobbo1 said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060778) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060773) said:
@hobbo1 said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060771) said:
@fair-dinkum said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060759) said:
@hobbo1 said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060664) said:
@Tigerboy said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060654) said:
@TigersBusDriver said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060652) said:
We do develop players from our junior levels. A whole heap of them, too. It's just that they all end up leaving and finding more success at other clubs.


So, the question must be asked... why is that consistently our issue?? It can’t be money, it can’t always be resources or coaching class because we’ve able to sign marquee’s too; they just never seem to perform for years on end - except old mate Gareth !


Even bigger question is why can’t we attract a top marquee player ?
I’d say it’s because we’re a proven basket case of a club ..
And please no one say “ Ryan Matterson” says hi !

I’m talking the likes of Lattrel Mitchel or a player like Inglis when he joined Souths ..
Souths were a rabble before Inglis joined them .
We need to get the house in order and get the ball rolling ..
Pretty much our entire squad is made up of the same caliber of players ..
Plodders and nuffies .

Its the stigma of just playing for the Tigers which plays a huge role. I reckon its 90% of the reason its hard to sign quality. I currently live in Newcastle, about 3-4 months ago I was having an informal lunch with an old client on my day off [many beers] at Wests League club in Mayfield when the Knights showed up for their lunch after training at the local ground. I had my Tigers Jersey on which has a few signatures on it so naturally it started some friendly conversation about some of the Tiger players on it, i told them I knew a couple of the blokes at the Tigers that they also knew and it lead to some banter with a few of the lads that sat at the table next to me. Pearce, Ponga, Guerra and Coach Brown. I asked the 3 players why they wouldnt play for the Tigers and why they chose to go to Newcastle. Pearce said laughing, cause of his Dad but all of them said Tigers have no chance to play in the finals, not in their playing lifetime, which made me laugh as they were playing for Newcastle but thats how bad it is! Players would rather play for other garbage teams then us! The facilitates are apparently lacking a great deal compared to many other clubs and the lifestyle/area isnt so attractive compared to say living in a Penthouse in a 1 team town on Newcastle beach with a plethora of attractive bikini clad young girls hanging around your doorstep 8-9 sunny months of the year.

1. Stigma of being a losing team ie, Crap roster
2. Facilities
3. Lifestyle

They need a complete broom through the place which I believe is happening at the end of 2020 and then they need to sign 10-15 players to change the culture.


100% agree ...
Not just top line marquee players even ...

Above average players won’t come ..,

Ferguson ...eels ( a while ago I know )
Korisau ...Panthers
DWZ ...dogs

Even Maloney would rather go overseas lol

Players like the above would improve our crap roster big time

prehaps we should start looking more overseas then?

Don’t look in Bali !
That’ll be full of plodders soon !

Wonder if Koroibete wants back ?

Yep, tiger players got their usual rooms, usual dates pre booked for the last few years.
 
Deadset some of you blokes would be enough to want a fella to phone beyond blue...
so what if Perce,guerra or Ponga don't want to come to the WTs.....Matterson,Garner,
Momo and others will do me ….at least their not prima donas...they are workers that love the WTs....
 
@Tigerboy said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060661) said:
Somebody explain Curtis Sironen to me? Father’s shadow that needed to make his own name is the one I personally relate to. Other than that, Fifita was a bad decision (in hindsight) and thus Marty Taupau, a shocker... I don’t want to lament so no need to bring others up just some interesting examples as Martin seemed to find himself here at the club and actually had very reasonable output for his price tag... can only assume that the off-field dramas were such a turn off, his hand was forced

marty taupau signed with manly 12 months before the end of the contract and tigers pretty much said, leave now and not after 12 months. he simply went where there was more money offerred.
 
@TrueTiger said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060783) said:
Deadset some of you blokes would be enough to want a fella to phone beyond blue...
so what if Perce,guerra or Ponga don't want to come to the WTs.....Matterson,Garner,
Momo and others will do me ….at least their not prima donas...they are workers that love the WTs....


If a west’s tigers player were to ring beyond blue they’d get transferred to a different department lol
 
@TheDaBoss said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060773) said:
@hobbo1 said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060771) said:
@fair-dinkum said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060759) said:
@hobbo1 said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060664) said:
@Tigerboy said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060654) said:
@TigersBusDriver said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060652) said:
We do develop players from our junior levels. A whole heap of them, too. It's just that they all end up leaving and finding more success at other clubs.


So, the question must be asked... why is that consistently our issue?? It can’t be money, it can’t always be resources or coaching class because we’ve able to sign marquee’s too; they just never seem to perform for years on end - except old mate Gareth !


Even bigger question is why can’t we attract a top marquee player ?
I’d say it’s because we’re a proven basket case of a club ..
And please no one say “ Ryan Matterson” says hi !

I’m talking the likes of Lattrel Mitchel or a player like Inglis when he joined Souths ..
Souths were a rabble before Inglis joined them .
We need to get the house in order and get the ball rolling ..
Pretty much our entire squad is made up of the same caliber of players ..
Plodders and nuffies .

Its the stigma of just playing for the Tigers which plays a huge role. I reckon its 90% of the reason its hard to sign quality. I currently live in Newcastle, about 3-4 months ago I was having an informal lunch with an old client on my day off [many beers] at Wests League club in Mayfield when the Knights showed up for their lunch after training at the local ground. I had my Tigers Jersey on which has a few signatures on it so naturally it started some friendly conversation about some of the Tiger players on it, i told them I knew a couple of the blokes at the Tigers that they also knew and it lead to some banter with a few of the lads that sat at the table next to me. Pearce, Ponga, Guerra and Coach Brown. I asked the 3 players why they wouldnt play for the Tigers and why they chose to go to Newcastle. Pearce said laughing, cause of his Dad but all of them said Tigers have no chance to play in the finals, not in their playing lifetime, which made me laugh as they were playing for Newcastle but thats how bad it is! Players would rather play for other garbage teams then us! The facilitates are apparently lacking a great deal compared to many other clubs and the lifestyle/area isnt so attractive compared to say living in a Penthouse in a 1 team town on Newcastle beach with a plethora of attractive bikini clad young girls hanging around your doorstep 8-9 sunny months of the year.

1. Stigma of being a losing team ie, Crap roster
2. Facilities
3. Lifestyle

They need a complete broom through the place which I believe is happening at the end of 2020 and then they need to sign 10-15 players to change the culture.


100% agree ...
Not just top line marquee players even ...

Above average players won’t come ..,

Ferguson ...eels ( a while ago I know )
Korisau ...Panthers
DWZ ...dogs

Even Maloney would rather go overseas lol

Players like the above would improve our crap roster big time

prehaps we should start looking more overseas then?


Canberra have the same problem and that's why they raided the Pommy market over the past couple of years. Has done them wonders, they are where they are now largely because of those English recruits. We honestly should try this as well, imo.
 
@tig_prmz said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060789) said:
@Tigerboy said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060661) said:
Somebody explain Curtis Sironen to me? Father’s shadow that needed to make his own name is the one I personally relate to. Other than that, Fifita was a bad decision (in hindsight) and thus Marty Taupau, a shocker... I don’t want to lament so no need to bring others up just some interesting examples as Martin seemed to find himself here at the club and actually had very reasonable output for his price tag... can only assume that the off-field dramas were such a turn off, his hand was forced

marty taupau signed with manly 12 months before the end of the contract and tigers pretty much said, leave now and not after 12 months. he simply went where there was more money offerred.


Mercenaries... he’s worth whatever he wanted though n seems to have matured into a good guy.
 
@hobbo1 well I can tell ya if a WT fan called up right about now they’d be *well* advised to have us euthanised
 
@Tigerboy said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060803) said:
@hobbo1 well I can tell ya if a WT fan called up right about now they’d be *well* advised to have us euthanised

Or you’d probably get some mediocre fan from here telling you everything is alright and it’s how it should be lol
 
@hobbo1 said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060807) said:
@Tigerboy said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060803) said:
@hobbo1 well I can tell ya if a WT fan called up right about now they’d be *well* advised to have us euthanised

Or you’d probably get some mediocre fan from here telling you everything is alright and it’s how it should be lol


Lmao. That would do it for me !
 
@hobbo1 agreed although I’d add Twal and ET to that list maybe momo and mabbbyyyyeee masters if he could get himself back into dat sweet 2018 form
 
@Jimmy said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060813) said:
@hobbo1 agreed although I’d add Twal and ET to that list maybe momo and mabbbyyyyeee masters if he could get himself back into dat sweet 2018 form


My list is final ....

Marsters needs a rocket
 
@hobbo1 said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060714) said:
@Earl said in [The worrying part for me](/post/1060699) said:
@hobbo1 Are we really full of plodders and nuffies. We were pretty good this year.

I think it's more about getting a couple more players. We have some class players. We just need a couple more.


There’s only 5-7 players I would keep

In no particular order

Brooks
Mbye
Garner
Matterson
Mikaele
Nofo ( just )
Aloiai
Chee Kam ( bench only)

The rest are puss !

* Marshall one more year *

Agree. Madge and Hartigan might need a bigger broom though!
 
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